Knicks · what else can melo do?! 44 pts, 9 boards? (page 6)
Bonn1997 wrote:Im sorry.. what did I get wrong Bonn? Why dont you post the thread... I probably thought the Knicks would play better. Is that you are clinging to? Why dont you just say somethingfishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:are you talking about you?fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Guns... he's been here for 4 years at $17-23 mill. He's been an all star every year. He was 3rd in the MVP voting last year when the team was good enough to make his production in the box score stick.fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You could have high draft picks for a decade and good talent people and not be able to draft a player of Melo's caliber. We have seen it. Ask the Bulls and Krause.
I have no fear of rebuilding. Was Gallo, Will Chandler and Felton getting us deep into the playoffs? Let me remind you they were zero impact players until you stuck a STAR player next to them in Amare. David Lee put up 20/12/55% ( the epitome of a Bonn TS% spank fest) and that team stunk.
So yea... Ill take the first and second round exits. You know why? because at least then you can tell how good your players are. Otherwise your stuck wondering if the Gallo, Wilson Chandler and David Lee's on your team are even worth resigning.
LOL - if you can't an argument, as might as well attribute inaccurate beliefs to someone else and point out that your beliefs are smarter than those.
Seriously, what have you learned from this season? How did you get not only the Knicks but the entire conference so wrong?Are you adding anything here... sorry, I was talking to guns
So you refer to Guns as "Bonn" now?
And, no, I'm referring to the Fishy guy who got the whole conference wrong. Have you learned anything from being so wrong?
fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Im sorry.. what did I get wrong Bonn? Why dont you post the thread... I probably thought the Knicks would play better. Is that you are clinging to? Why dont you just say somethingfishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:are you talking about you?fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Guns... he's been here for 4 years at $17-23 mill. He's been an all star every year. He was 3rd in the MVP voting last year when the team was good enough to make his production in the box score stick.fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You could have high draft picks for a decade and good talent people and not be able to draft a player of Melo's caliber. We have seen it. Ask the Bulls and Krause.
I have no fear of rebuilding. Was Gallo, Will Chandler and Felton getting us deep into the playoffs? Let me remind you they were zero impact players until you stuck a STAR player next to them in Amare. David Lee put up 20/12/55% ( the epitome of a Bonn TS% spank fest) and that team stunk.
So yea... Ill take the first and second round exits. You know why? because at least then you can tell how good your players are. Otherwise your stuck wondering if the Gallo, Wilson Chandler and David Lee's on your team are even worth resigning.
LOL - if you can't an argument, as might as well attribute inaccurate beliefs to someone else and point out that your beliefs are smarter than those.
Seriously, what have you learned from this season? How did you get not only the Knicks but the entire conference so wrong?Are you adding anything here... sorry, I was talking to guns
So you refer to Guns as "Bonn" now?
And, no, I'm referring to the Fishy guy who got the whole conference wrong. Have you learned anything from being so wrong?
I already did post it. You got the Knicks and the entire conference completely wrong (thinking there would be 5 50 win teams). Again, here's your win prediction
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50 wins. Artest and Melo at the forwards is the way. Bargs is backup 5. I think we are the 5th best team but one thing with Melo's Knicks is they dont lose to inferior teams. We do a good job padding the wins against weaker or young teams.
If you weren't throwing stones at everyone you disagree with, I'd just let it go.
Bonn1997 wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Im sorry.. what did I get wrong Bonn? Why dont you post the thread... I probably thought the Knicks would play better. Is that you are clinging to? Why dont you just say somethingfishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:are you talking about you?fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Guns... he's been here for 4 years at $17-23 mill. He's been an all star every year. He was 3rd in the MVP voting last year when the team was good enough to make his production in the box score stick.fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You could have high draft picks for a decade and good talent people and not be able to draft a player of Melo's caliber. We have seen it. Ask the Bulls and Krause.
I have no fear of rebuilding. Was Gallo, Will Chandler and Felton getting us deep into the playoffs? Let me remind you they were zero impact players until you stuck a STAR player next to them in Amare. David Lee put up 20/12/55% ( the epitome of a Bonn TS% spank fest) and that team stunk.
So yea... Ill take the first and second round exits. You know why? because at least then you can tell how good your players are. Otherwise your stuck wondering if the Gallo, Wilson Chandler and David Lee's on your team are even worth resigning.
LOL - if you can't an argument, as might as well attribute inaccurate beliefs to someone else and point out that your beliefs are smarter than those.
Seriously, what have you learned from this season? How did you get not only the Knicks but the entire conference so wrong?Are you adding anything here... sorry, I was talking to guns
So you refer to Guns as "Bonn" now?
And, no, I'm referring to the Fishy guy who got the whole conference wrong. Have you learned anything from being so wrong?
I already did post it. You got the Knicks and the entire conference completely wrong (thinking there would be 5 50 win teams). Again, here's your win predictionPosts: 39054
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50 wins. Artest and Melo at the forwards is the way. Bargs is backup 5. I think we are the 5th best team but one thing with Melo's Knicks is they dont lose to inferior teams. We do a good job padding the wins against weaker or young teams.
If you weren't throwing stones at everyone you disagree with, I'd just let it go.
Am I missing something. He is wrong in his 50 win prediction or that he predicted the knicks would win 50 if Metta started and Bargs came of the bench?
I guess its like people who said we would win 50+ because Camby and Brewer would play but the knicks win 50 without any real contribution from the two for the majority of the year.
the only thing that would make that prediction disproved was if the knicks imploded, which was a distinct possibility because of a leadership vacuum. then melo opened his piehole ("i want to test free agency") and that pretty much was all that was needed to implode. nobody is going to believe if there is not a cause to believe.
the prediction machine-- what was its name?-- at the start of the season said 37 wins on paper alone and without implosion. they now have to go 16-9 from here on just to reach that mark thanks to this implosion. remarably acurate prediction based on statistical analysis. i am impressed.
But Bonn thats a good find. Really good work. Yes.. I was wrong, and you know what? Im totally comfortable with that. I did not realize in Oct when I posted that that JR would start the season suspended then shoot 35% for the first two months. I didnt realize that Felton would go from being a servicable PG last year to the worst starting PG in the NBA. I did not predict that even in some backup role (that was my wish) that Bargs would be as totally useless as his.
So you Bonn are the man. You may not watch any hoops, but damn... your good at storing up threads in case you might need to call someone wrong on the internet. Excellent work.
fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
why don't you talk about the rape charges your favorite player got some years ago..
Knicks22 wrote:
Too often, the debate over Melo appears to be all or none. He's either THE problem, or, he's faultless, in fact a victim...I agree with those posters who see both sides. Roster is flawed, and Melo working incredibly hard, under a coach who has absolutely no guiding offensive structure, to, do his best to win. Admirable, and, this year, even with his bizarre 1-20? on late and close, its been his best year in NY.
However, I totally believe that, knowingly or not, he is a big reason this team is dysfunctional. The trade, inability to co-exist with Amare when he was still somewhat healthy, running MDA out of town,seeming to pout under Linsanity,i and, as the star of the team, seemingly show no effective leadership on defensive effort, or, shutting down knucklehead behavior.
Front office tried - mortgaged the future to put three All Stars (melo, Amare, Tyson) together, had some success last year. Time to move on, and signing him to a max deal is wrong for reasons of cap, age, and, mostly, as I honestly don't see - beyond Olympics or All Star teams (where he can be the brilliant shooter he is), what collection of players would gel with his game.
That statement I have a problem with.. because it tends to give the impression that he is working hard and others aren't.. Is carmelo working hard on defense? NO!! I can point out that guys like pablo, JR smith, chandler, all work hard on defense.. This impression that carmelo is the only one working incredibly hard buys in to the "victim" defense for him.. For the most part, all of these guys are working hard.. they are just not that good collectively, that seems to be the bigger problem..
tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
why don't you talk about the rape charges your favorite player got some years ago..
wait... don't tell me fishmike's favorite player is bryant?!? please don't tell me that.
fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Guns... he's been here for 4 years at $17-23 mill. He's been an all star every year. He was 3rd in the MVP voting last year when the team was good enough to make his production in the box score stick.fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You could have high draft picks for a decade and good talent people and not be able to draft a player of Melo's caliber. We have seen it. Ask the Bulls and Krause.
I have no fear of rebuilding. Was Gallo, Will Chandler and Felton getting us deep into the playoffs? Let me remind you they were zero impact players until you stuck a STAR player next to them in Amare. David Lee put up 20/12/55% ( the epitome of a Bonn TS% spank fest) and that team stunk.
So yea... Ill take the first and second round exits. You know why? because at least then you can tell how good your players are. Otherwise your stuck wondering if the Gallo, Wilson Chandler and David Lee's on your team are even worth resigning.
when we traded them, we are 28-26 who knows how far we could have gone, but really that is the flaw in your thinking... maybe you should be thinking of what we could have done with the combination of assets, picks and young players we had... do I think we would have been better than 15 games under .500.. Hell yes.... you talk about going deep into the playoffs as if camelo has led us there.. Your defense here is just odd..
fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:lol... just a high volume scorer. Yea... thats all he is. top 20 rebounder. One of the best 3 point shooters in the game right now. 2nd leading scorer. Yea bonnie... he's just a volume shooter. Kinda like just a volume poster. 10 time all star? Boy they must really value volume. Go watch a gamegunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You can't give 40% of the cap to a guy who's just a high volume scorer - not with this CBA since we can't even spend $5 mil per on an MLE any more. And especially not for a guy who will be in his 12th to 16th seasons during that contract. Ask yourself is a smart organization like the Spurs would do that. It's gotta be something like 4 yrs, $55 mil. Since he'd never do that, we should have traded him.
he is just a high volume shooter... a top 20 rebounder? really, I mean come on man... that is just reaching..and no he isn't.. a top 20 rebounder, he is around 24, tied with like 6 other guys.... second leading scorer and he is taking more shots than anyone in the NBA.. by far... he lack efficiency and shoots a ton which is why he is considered a high volume scorer..
no one is saying he is a scrub.. but very far from being this elite player you are trying to portray...
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Im sorry.. what did I get wrong Bonn? Why dont you post the thread... I probably thought the Knicks would play better. Is that you are clinging to? Why dont you just say somethingfishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:are you talking about you?fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Guns... he's been here for 4 years at $17-23 mill. He's been an all star every year. He was 3rd in the MVP voting last year when the team was good enough to make his production in the box score stick.fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You could have high draft picks for a decade and good talent people and not be able to draft a player of Melo's caliber. We have seen it. Ask the Bulls and Krause.
I have no fear of rebuilding. Was Gallo, Will Chandler and Felton getting us deep into the playoffs? Let me remind you they were zero impact players until you stuck a STAR player next to them in Amare. David Lee put up 20/12/55% ( the epitome of a Bonn TS% spank fest) and that team stunk.
So yea... Ill take the first and second round exits. You know why? because at least then you can tell how good your players are. Otherwise your stuck wondering if the Gallo, Wilson Chandler and David Lee's on your team are even worth resigning.
LOL - if you can't an argument, as might as well attribute inaccurate beliefs to someone else and point out that your beliefs are smarter than those.
Seriously, what have you learned from this season? How did you get not only the Knicks but the entire conference so wrong?Are you adding anything here... sorry, I was talking to guns
So you refer to Guns as "Bonn" now?
And, no, I'm referring to the Fishy guy who got the whole conference wrong. Have you learned anything from being so wrong?
I already did post it. You got the Knicks and the entire conference completely wrong (thinking there would be 5 50 win teams). Again, here's your win predictionPosts: 39054
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50 wins. Artest and Melo at the forwards is the way. Bargs is backup 5. I think we are the 5th best team but one thing with Melo's Knicks is they dont lose to inferior teams. We do a good job padding the wins against weaker or young teams.
If you weren't throwing stones at everyone you disagree with, I'd just let it go.
Am I missing something. He is wrong in his 50 win prediction or that he predicted the knicks would win 50 if Metta started and Bargs came of the bench?I guess its like people who said we would win 50+ because Camby and Brewer would play but the knicks win 50 without any real contribution from the two for the majority of the year.
he is also wrong about the knicks beating up on weaker teams.. look at our record against sub .500 teams....
fishmike wrote:Bonn...I dont throw stones (for examples mentioning that TFK got kicked off realgM for being the same dweeb he is here that he was there is a fact. Even I cant make something like that up). I Just point out things a couple people dont like. Like how you comment on all the games but dont watch any basketball.But Bonn thats a good find. Really good work. Yes.. I was wrong, and you know what? Im totally comfortable with that. I did not realize in Oct when I posted that that JR would start the season suspended then shoot 35% for the first two months. I didnt realize that Felton would go from being a servicable PG last year to the worst starting PG in the NBA. I did not predict that even in some backup role (that was my wish) that Bargs would be as totally useless as his.
So you Bonn are the man. You may not watch any hoops, but damn... your good at storing up threads in case you might need to call someone wrong on the internet. Excellent work.
you don't throw stones, yet you can't get my name out of your mouth.. truth be told, you have been called out and exposed and your feelings get hurt... and honestly you are acting like a female.. ever watch housewives of Atlanta? you would fit right in... you were so wrong and you flip flop... It is sad actually because you are embarrassing yourself to no end... you know nothing of me and realgm.. but again keep playing your Housewives games..
I was wrong, and you know what? Im totally comfortable with that.
rofl.. no you are not!
dk7th wrote:tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
why don't you talk about the rape charges your favorite player got some years ago..
wait... don't tell me fishmike's favorite player is bryant?!? please don't tell me that.
actually since he is making things up about me, I might as well join in the fray.... LOL.. honestly the way it seems his favorite player is the loser dragging this franchise down.. carmeloser...
tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:lol... just a high volume scorer. Yea... thats all he is. top 20 rebounder. One of the best 3 point shooters in the game right now. 2nd leading scorer. Yea bonnie... he's just a volume shooter. Kinda like just a volume poster. 10 time all star? Boy they must really value volume. Go watch a gamegunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You can't give 40% of the cap to a guy who's just a high volume scorer - not with this CBA since we can't even spend $5 mil per on an MLE any more. And especially not for a guy who will be in his 12th to 16th seasons during that contract. Ask yourself is a smart organization like the Spurs would do that. It's gotta be something like 4 yrs, $55 mil. Since he'd never do that, we should have traded him.he is just a high volume shooter... a top 20 rebounder? really, I mean come on man... that is just reaching..and no he isn't.. a top 20 rebounder, he is around 24, tied with like 6 other guys.... second leading scorer and he is taking more shots than anyone in the NBA.. by far... he lack efficiency and shoots a ton which is why he is considered a high volume scorer..
no one is saying he is a scrub.. but very far from being this elite player you are trying to portray...
That's wrong but you keep saying it. You can say he is not a high efficient high volume scorer like others but he is efficient at an extremely high volume. Efficient in TS, ppp, and pps.
yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:lol... just a high volume scorer. Yea... thats all he is. top 20 rebounder. One of the best 3 point shooters in the game right now. 2nd leading scorer. Yea bonnie... he's just a volume shooter. Kinda like just a volume poster. 10 time all star? Boy they must really value volume. Go watch a gamegunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You can't give 40% of the cap to a guy who's just a high volume scorer - not with this CBA since we can't even spend $5 mil per on an MLE any more. And especially not for a guy who will be in his 12th to 16th seasons during that contract. Ask yourself is a smart organization like the Spurs would do that. It's gotta be something like 4 yrs, $55 mil. Since he'd never do that, we should have traded him.he is just a high volume shooter... a top 20 rebounder? really, I mean come on man... that is just reaching..and no he isn't.. a top 20 rebounder, he is around 24, tied with like 6 other guys.... second leading scorer and he is taking more shots than anyone in the NBA.. by far... he lack efficiency and shoots a ton which is why he is considered a high volume scorer..
no one is saying he is a scrub.. but very far from being this elite player you are trying to portray...
That's wrong but you keep saying it. You can say he is not a high efficient high volume scorer like others but he is efficient at an extremely high volume. Efficient in TS, ppp, and pps.
I will let dk handle the TS, he has been over this numerous times...
yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:lol... just a high volume scorer. Yea... thats all he is. top 20 rebounder. One of the best 3 point shooters in the game right now. 2nd leading scorer. Yea bonnie... he's just a volume shooter. Kinda like just a volume poster. 10 time all star? Boy they must really value volume. Go watch a gamegunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You can't give 40% of the cap to a guy who's just a high volume scorer - not with this CBA since we can't even spend $5 mil per on an MLE any more. And especially not for a guy who will be in his 12th to 16th seasons during that contract. Ask yourself is a smart organization like the Spurs would do that. It's gotta be something like 4 yrs, $55 mil. Since he'd never do that, we should have traded him.he is just a high volume shooter... a top 20 rebounder? really, I mean come on man... that is just reaching..and no he isn't.. a top 20 rebounder, he is around 24, tied with like 6 other guys.... second leading scorer and he is taking more shots than anyone in the NBA.. by far... he lack efficiency and shoots a ton which is why he is considered a high volume scorer..
no one is saying he is a scrub.. but very far from being this elite player you are trying to portray...
That's wrong but you keep saying it. You can say he is not a high efficient high volume scorer like others but he is efficient at an extremely high volume. Efficient in TS, ppp, and pps.
his TS% is absolutely pedestrian. he needs to shoot only good shots but he continues to take 4-6 bad shots almost every game. 22 shots is way too much. 16-17 is the absolute limit for him. he needs to up his fta to around 10 a game. that would be helping his team at least in a kind of vacuum.
if he wants to actively help his team then he needs to lower his usage and raise his assist rate. 32.6 is way too high and 15.0 is just too low. this is also refelcted in his paltry assist numbers. three assists are you kidding me?
tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:lol... just a high volume scorer. Yea... thats all he is. top 20 rebounder. One of the best 3 point shooters in the game right now. 2nd leading scorer. Yea bonnie... he's just a volume shooter. Kinda like just a volume poster. 10 time all star? Boy they must really value volume. Go watch a gamegunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You can't give 40% of the cap to a guy who's just a high volume scorer - not with this CBA since we can't even spend $5 mil per on an MLE any more. And especially not for a guy who will be in his 12th to 16th seasons during that contract. Ask yourself is a smart organization like the Spurs would do that. It's gotta be something like 4 yrs, $55 mil. Since he'd never do that, we should have traded him.he is just a high volume shooter... a top 20 rebounder? really, I mean come on man... that is just reaching..and no he isn't.. a top 20 rebounder, he is around 24, tied with like 6 other guys.... second leading scorer and he is taking more shots than anyone in the NBA.. by far... he lack efficiency and shoots a ton which is why he is considered a high volume scorer..
no one is saying he is a scrub.. but very far from being this elite player you are trying to portray...
That's wrong but you keep saying it. You can say he is not a high efficient high volume scorer like others but he is efficient at an extremely high volume. Efficient in TS, ppp, and pps.
I will let dk handle the TS, he has been over this numerous times...
DK handled it earlier in the season when he was well below. As you see now, maybe you don't, but those TS reports for Melo rarely gets reported now. He has had one below avg TS season with the KNicks on an Extremely high usg. That's just TS% but any way.
Why do you, not DK, would say he is not efficient.
dk7th wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:lol... just a high volume scorer. Yea... thats all he is. top 20 rebounder. One of the best 3 point shooters in the game right now. 2nd leading scorer. Yea bonnie... he's just a volume shooter. Kinda like just a volume poster. 10 time all star? Boy they must really value volume. Go watch a gamegunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You can't give 40% of the cap to a guy who's just a high volume scorer - not with this CBA since we can't even spend $5 mil per on an MLE any more. And especially not for a guy who will be in his 12th to 16th seasons during that contract. Ask yourself is a smart organization like the Spurs would do that. It's gotta be something like 4 yrs, $55 mil. Since he'd never do that, we should have traded him.he is just a high volume shooter... a top 20 rebounder? really, I mean come on man... that is just reaching..and no he isn't.. a top 20 rebounder, he is around 24, tied with like 6 other guys.... second leading scorer and he is taking more shots than anyone in the NBA.. by far... he lack efficiency and shoots a ton which is why he is considered a high volume scorer..
no one is saying he is a scrub.. but very far from being this elite player you are trying to portray...
That's wrong but you keep saying it. You can say he is not a high efficient high volume scorer like others but he is efficient at an extremely high volume. Efficient in TS, ppp, and pps.
his TS% is absolutely pedestrian. he needs to shoot only good shots but he continues to take 4-6 bad shots almost every game. 22 shots is way too much. 16-17 is the absolute limit for him. he needs to up his fta to around 10 a game. that would be helping his team at least in a kind of vacuum.
if he wants to actively help his team then he needs to lower his usage and raise his assist rate. 32.6 is way too high and 15.0 is just too low. this is also refelcted in his paltry assist numbers. three assists are you kidding me?
Wow, you think a TS of above the league's efficiency at a usg rate of 16-20 is the same as someone with a usg of 28+?
That's like saying someone who shoots 1-3 three pointers above 37% is the same as someone who shoots 5-7 3s at 37% or higher.
This is like saying Tyson Chandler is a better scorer that Tim Duncan.
yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:lol... just a high volume scorer. Yea... thats all he is. top 20 rebounder. One of the best 3 point shooters in the game right now. 2nd leading scorer. Yea bonnie... he's just a volume shooter. Kinda like just a volume poster. 10 time all star? Boy they must really value volume. Go watch a gamegunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You can't give 40% of the cap to a guy who's just a high volume scorer - not with this CBA since we can't even spend $5 mil per on an MLE any more. And especially not for a guy who will be in his 12th to 16th seasons during that contract. Ask yourself is a smart organization like the Spurs would do that. It's gotta be something like 4 yrs, $55 mil. Since he'd never do that, we should have traded him.he is just a high volume shooter... a top 20 rebounder? really, I mean come on man... that is just reaching..and no he isn't.. a top 20 rebounder, he is around 24, tied with like 6 other guys.... second leading scorer and he is taking more shots than anyone in the NBA.. by far... he lack efficiency and shoots a ton which is why he is considered a high volume scorer..
no one is saying he is a scrub.. but very far from being this elite player you are trying to portray...
That's wrong but you keep saying it. You can say he is not a high efficient high volume scorer like others but he is efficient at an extremely high volume. Efficient in TS, ppp, and pps.
I will let dk handle the TS, he has been over this numerous times...
DK handled it earlier in the season when he was well below. As you see now, maybe you don't, but those TS reports for Melo rarely gets reported now. He has had one below avg TS season with the KNicks on an Extremely high usg. That's just TS% but any way.
Why do you, not DK, would say he is not efficient.
his TS is still not great....but I rarely use TS, so why should I defend it... I look at his shooting % and how many shots he takes.. he takes close to 23SPG and if you are no where near 50% you shouldn't be.. and honestly no one should be.. regardless..
tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:lol... just a high volume scorer. Yea... thats all he is. top 20 rebounder. One of the best 3 point shooters in the game right now. 2nd leading scorer. Yea bonnie... he's just a volume shooter. Kinda like just a volume poster. 10 time all star? Boy they must really value volume. Go watch a gamegunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You can't give 40% of the cap to a guy who's just a high volume scorer - not with this CBA since we can't even spend $5 mil per on an MLE any more. And especially not for a guy who will be in his 12th to 16th seasons during that contract. Ask yourself is a smart organization like the Spurs would do that. It's gotta be something like 4 yrs, $55 mil. Since he'd never do that, we should have traded him.he is just a high volume shooter... a top 20 rebounder? really, I mean come on man... that is just reaching..and no he isn't.. a top 20 rebounder, he is around 24, tied with like 6 other guys.... second leading scorer and he is taking more shots than anyone in the NBA.. by far... he lack efficiency and shoots a ton which is why he is considered a high volume scorer..
no one is saying he is a scrub.. but very far from being this elite player you are trying to portray...
That's wrong but you keep saying it. You can say he is not a high efficient high volume scorer like others but he is efficient at an extremely high volume. Efficient in TS, ppp, and pps.
I will let dk handle the TS, he has been over this numerous times...
DK handled it earlier in the season when he was well below. As you see now, maybe you don't, but those TS reports for Melo rarely gets reported now. He has had one below avg TS season with the KNicks on an Extremely high usg. That's just TS% but any way.
Why do you, not DK, would say he is not efficient.
his TS is still not great....but I rarely use TS, so why should I defend it... I look at his shooting % and how many shots he takes.. he takes close to 23SPG and if you are no where near 50% you shouldn't be.. and honestly no one should be.. regardless..
His TS is still efficient but its okay because Melo takes close to 17 shots per game so shooting 45% is okay.
yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:lol... just a high volume scorer. Yea... thats all he is. top 20 rebounder. One of the best 3 point shooters in the game right now. 2nd leading scorer. Yea bonnie... he's just a volume shooter. Kinda like just a volume poster. 10 time all star? Boy they must really value volume. Go watch a gamegunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.Bonn1997 wrote:Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through draftsgunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as badI guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks
We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?Melo is a cancer? Wow.
TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.
It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.
Dolan is fine with that, are u?
You can't give 40% of the cap to a guy who's just a high volume scorer - not with this CBA since we can't even spend $5 mil per on an MLE any more. And especially not for a guy who will be in his 12th to 16th seasons during that contract. Ask yourself is a smart organization like the Spurs would do that. It's gotta be something like 4 yrs, $55 mil. Since he'd never do that, we should have traded him.he is just a high volume shooter... a top 20 rebounder? really, I mean come on man... that is just reaching..and no he isn't.. a top 20 rebounder, he is around 24, tied with like 6 other guys.... second leading scorer and he is taking more shots than anyone in the NBA.. by far... he lack efficiency and shoots a ton which is why he is considered a high volume scorer..
no one is saying he is a scrub.. but very far from being this elite player you are trying to portray...
That's wrong but you keep saying it. You can say he is not a high efficient high volume scorer like others but he is efficient at an extremely high volume. Efficient in TS, ppp, and pps.
I will let dk handle the TS, he has been over this numerous times...
DK handled it earlier in the season when he was well below. As you see now, maybe you don't, but those TS reports for Melo rarely gets reported now. He has had one below avg TS season with the KNicks on an Extremely high usg. That's just TS% but any way.
Why do you, not DK, would say he is not efficient.
his TS is still not great....but I rarely use TS, so why should I defend it... I look at his shooting % and how many shots he takes.. he takes close to 23SPG and if you are no where near 50% you shouldn't be.. and honestly no one should be.. regardless..
His TS is still efficient but its okay because Melo takes close to 17 shots per game so shooting 45% is okay.
he takes 22 shots per.. 24 for the month of feb..
all I can say is, that NY fans who want this guy here, are getting and will continue to get what they deserve....