Knicks · Metta World Peace: Knicks asked me not to be a leader (page 1)
Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
mreinman wrote:mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
Yeah, do we really want the team to follow whatever direction MWP leads them in?
mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
So counting what was left on this year too, he left about 90% of the money on the table? Really? Wow
Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
Yeah, do we really want the team to follow whatever direction MWP leads them in?
+1. I never thought I'd see anyone think that someone as dim-witted as MWP could be a leader.
NardDogNation wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
Yeah, do we really want the team to follow whatever direction MWP leads them in?
+1. I never thought I'd see anyone think that someone as dim-witted as MWP could be a leader.
Judging from the interview that was posted on here a few wks ago, he sounds like a fairly intelligent guy. Most ppl still judge him on the brawl (and i was some what in that group) but the interview along with his short time here has change my thinking.
knicks1248 wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
Yeah, do we really want the team to follow whatever direction MWP leads them in?
+1. I never thought I'd see anyone think that someone as dim-witted as MWP could be a leader.
Judging from the interview that was posted on here a few wks ago, he sounds like a fairly intelligent guy. Most ppl still judge him on the brawl (and i was some what in that group) but the interview along with his short time here has change my thinking.
It was not just the brawl. Dude is certifiably crazy and always was.
I don't dislike him but certainly don't read into his comments.
knicks1248 wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
Yeah, do we really want the team to follow whatever direction MWP leads them in?
+1. I never thought I'd see anyone think that someone as dim-witted as MWP could be a leader.
Judging from the interview that was posted on here a few wks ago, he sounds like a fairly intelligent guy. Most ppl still judge him on the brawl (and i was some what in that group) but the interview along with his short time here has change my thinking.
Metta is definitely out there, but you can't deny that he's been the leader of some scrappy, hardworking teams. That's eve going back to his playing days with St. John's. His shot selection drives me crazy and he's definitely lost a step-and-a-half over the years. But I think most players in the league can earn from the effort he brings. I've never watched a MWP game in which he didn't give 100 percent.
BigDaddyG wrote:knicks1248 wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
Yeah, do we really want the team to follow whatever direction MWP leads them in?
+1. I never thought I'd see anyone think that someone as dim-witted as MWP could be a leader.
Judging from the interview that was posted on here a few wks ago, he sounds like a fairly intelligent guy. Most ppl still judge him on the brawl (and i was some what in that group) but the interview along with his short time here has change my thinking.
Metta is definitely out there, but you can't deny that he's been the leader of some scrappy, hardworking teams. That's eve going back to his playing days with St. John's. His shot selection drives me crazy and he's definitely lost a step-and-a-half over the years. But I think most players in the league can earn from the effort he brings. I've never watched a MWP game in which he didn't give 100 percent.
That's good stuff.
I have a soft spot for him since his SJU days, but easily recognize his faults. Having the best player on the team, like Kobe, back you probably helped him gel w/ the Lakers. Not saying Melo didn't, but I also don't think Melo commands the respect Kobe does from his teammates.
As for the bolded, my answer is yes - would probably be better than being led to the 9 seed wouldn't you say?
sealy wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:knicks1248 wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
Yeah, do we really want the team to follow whatever direction MWP leads them in?
+1. I never thought I'd see anyone think that someone as dim-witted as MWP could be a leader.
Judging from the interview that was posted on here a few wks ago, he sounds like a fairly intelligent guy. Most ppl still judge him on the brawl (and i was some what in that group) but the interview along with his short time here has change my thinking.
Metta is definitely out there, but you can't deny that he's been the leader of some scrappy, hardworking teams. That's eve going back to his playing days with St. John's. His shot selection drives me crazy and he's definitely lost a step-and-a-half over the years. But I think most players in the league can earn from the effort he brings. I've never watched a MWP game in which he didn't give 100 percent.That's good stuff.
I have a soft spot for him since his SJU days, but easily recognize his faults. Having the best player on the team, like Kobe, back you probably helped him gel w/ the Lakers. Not saying Melo didn't, but I also don't think Melo commands the respect Kobe does from his teammates.
As for the bolded, my answer is yes - would probably be better than being led to the 9 seed wouldn't you say?
Kobe's teammates hated him. He sticks up for Gasol so he must like him/owe him but overall he was hated for his selfish chucking and asshole attitude.
They must have respected his effort though. Kobe has that nastiness that helped his team win but he also was to egotistical to realize that it was not all about him.
mreinman wrote:sealy wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:knicks1248 wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
Yeah, do we really want the team to follow whatever direction MWP leads them in?
+1. I never thought I'd see anyone think that someone as dim-witted as MWP could be a leader.
Judging from the interview that was posted on here a few wks ago, he sounds like a fairly intelligent guy. Most ppl still judge him on the brawl (and i was some what in that group) but the interview along with his short time here has change my thinking.
Metta is definitely out there, but you can't deny that he's been the leader of some scrappy, hardworking teams. That's eve going back to his playing days with St. John's. His shot selection drives me crazy and he's definitely lost a step-and-a-half over the years. But I think most players in the league can earn from the effort he brings. I've never watched a MWP game in which he didn't give 100 percent.That's good stuff.
I have a soft spot for him since his SJU days, but easily recognize his faults. Having the best player on the team, like Kobe, back you probably helped him gel w/ the Lakers. Not saying Melo didn't, but I also don't think Melo commands the respect Kobe does from his teammates.
As for the bolded, my answer is yes - would probably be better than being led to the 9 seed wouldn't you say?
Kobe's teammates hated him. He sticks up for Gasol so he must like him/owe him but overall he was hated for his selfish chucking and asshole attitude.
They must have respected his effort though. Kobe has that nastiness that helped his team win but he also was to egotistical to realize that it was not all about him.
Wasn't debating Kobe's likability; I think he's a dick too. Still, dude has won 5 titles and he's got quite a rep for his work ethic so when he barks teammates sure as shit listen.
On the other hand, this current Knicks roster is full of weak minded, self absorbed, over paid players and Artest still couldn't even get that CAA induced playing time. This BS team has been run ass backwards since the summer league and I have absolutely no problem if an veteran NBA Champ tried to take on a leadership role like a Kidd/Sheed/Kurt did last year.
He is/was the least of this organization's problems.
knicks1248 wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
Yeah, do we really want the team to follow whatever direction MWP leads them in?
+1. I never thought I'd see anyone think that someone as dim-witted as MWP could be a leader.
Judging from the interview that was posted on here a few wks ago, he sounds like a fairly intelligent guy. Most ppl still judge him on the brawl (and i was some what in that group) but the interview along with his short time here has change my thinking.
I haven't seen the interview, so I might be speaking out of turn.
I wish him well. This team was cooked early on and perhaps he is also.
sealy wrote:mreinman wrote:sealy wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:knicks1248 wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:mattshaw78 wrote:Metta World Peace says he asked for a buyout after being asked by the Knicks to tone down his locker room leadership role, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
World Peace was not in coach Mike Woodson’s regular rotation this season, averaging just 13.4 minutes per game in 29 appearances, but the former All-Star says it was the team’s refusal to let him lead that made him ask for a buyout.“I was fine with being on the bench, but at times I wanted to help lead. But at times I tried to lead, it was met with resistance. I backed off a little and tried to blend in with the team. I tried to find where I could complement the players but I couldn’t find any room to complement.’’
Berman reports that World Peace received around $250,000 when he was let out of his contract, which had a $1.6 million player option for next season.
Maybe his leadership sucked because he is a bit of a tool and therefore we sucked.
This guy is not sane enough for us to care what he says.
Yeah, do we really want the team to follow whatever direction MWP leads them in?
+1. I never thought I'd see anyone think that someone as dim-witted as MWP could be a leader.
Judging from the interview that was posted on here a few wks ago, he sounds like a fairly intelligent guy. Most ppl still judge him on the brawl (and i was some what in that group) but the interview along with his short time here has change my thinking.
Metta is definitely out there, but you can't deny that he's been the leader of some scrappy, hardworking teams. That's eve going back to his playing days with St. John's. His shot selection drives me crazy and he's definitely lost a step-and-a-half over the years. But I think most players in the league can earn from the effort he brings. I've never watched a MWP game in which he didn't give 100 percent.That's good stuff.
I have a soft spot for him since his SJU days, but easily recognize his faults. Having the best player on the team, like Kobe, back you probably helped him gel w/ the Lakers. Not saying Melo didn't, but I also don't think Melo commands the respect Kobe does from his teammates.
As for the bolded, my answer is yes - would probably be better than being led to the 9 seed wouldn't you say?
Kobe's teammates hated him. He sticks up for Gasol so he must like him/owe him but overall he was hated for his selfish chucking and asshole attitude.
They must have respected his effort though. Kobe has that nastiness that helped his team win but he also was to egotistical to realize that it was not all about him.
Wasn't debating Kobe's likability; I think he's a dick too. Still, dude has won 5 titles and he's got quite a rep for his work ethic so when he barks teammates sure as shit listen.
On the other hand, this current Knicks roster is full of weak minded, self absorbed, over paid players and Artest still couldn't even get that CAA induced playing time. This BS team has been run ass backwards since the summer league and I have absolutely no problem if an veteran NBA Champ tried to take on a leadership role like a Kidd/Sheed/Kurt did last year.
He is/was the least of this organization's problems.
The Knicks have a sh1tty weak minded team with a dumb as phuck coach and a flawed leader.
Kobe had the opposite in every way and lord knows that he needed it to win.
Woodson doesn't do well with vets on his bench that feel entitled to minutes. He just can't handle that situation. It's better to give him young guys he has no fear of letting rot on the bench. You kind of have to know if a player can handle not having a role before bringing them in. Now we have guys like Clark and Brown who fit that kind of role much better.
nixluva wrote:I think that we've learned it's a bad idea to load your roster with vets if you don't have a role for them. Going into this year, the Knicks should've had a good idea of what they wanted MWP to do before signing him. If they just wanted him as a security blanket off the bench that was a bad idea. You could get a player who is just happy to be in the league for that role.I think Grunwald looked at Metta and CJ as big forwards that could play the 3 or 4 when they played with Melo. Not sure about that but I thought it was the plan.Woodson doesn't do well with vets on his bench that feel entitled to minutes. He just can't handle that situation. It's better to give him young guys he has no fear of letting rot on the bench. You kind of have to know if a player can handle not having a role before bringing them in. Now we have guys like Clark and Brown who fit that kind of role much better.
CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:I think that we've learned it's a bad idea to load your roster with vets if you don't have a role for them. Going into this year, the Knicks should've had a good idea of what they wanted MWP to do before signing him. If they just wanted him as a security blanket off the bench that was a bad idea. You could get a player who is just happy to be in the league for that role.I think Grunwald looked at Metta and CJ as big forwards that could play the 3 or 4 when they played with Melo. Not sure about that but I thought it was the plan.Woodson doesn't do well with vets on his bench that feel entitled to minutes. He just can't handle that situation. It's better to give him young guys he has no fear of letting rot on the bench. You kind of have to know if a player can handle not having a role before bringing them in. Now we have guys like Clark and Brown who fit that kind of role much better.
I don't have a problem with what Grunwald was thinking, but in practice those vets with a name are not often well suited to the seldom used role when you have a deep rotation. MWP and Beno are vets who you would think should play and they expect to play and it's just harder for a coach to sit those guys and have them not be involved in any way. I don't blame them for being dissatisfied and if MWP wanted a role to help in some way, you'd think there was something he could do. Even if it was minimal. Now we have guys like Murry, Tyler, Clark and Brown who are much less of a problem for a coach in terms of denying them minutes. Gotta have those "happy to be here" players who can give you something but aren't feeling entitled and thus the coach can more easily sit them and not have to worry about it.