Knicks · Did you support the Bargs trade? Its ok to come clean. (page 1)

What really sucks is that the second rd picks given up could have got Spencer Hawes. lol. I would have taken Hawes before Bargs anyway. Especially since he can do all the other things better than Bargs. It's not like Hawes is an all world player but he is a better player than Bargs and a big that actually stretches the floor.

Is what it is

I thought Bargs started to play better- I'd like to think a different coach would have gotten him to fit better- I mean, it was clear he didn't work with Chandler, yet Woody kept trying it.

I had hoped he would be healthy - but where the F is he? At least he got hurt driving the ball to the hoop, and not settling for a jumper - have to give him that.

I really don't like Bargs- fair or not I associate him with all of this teams woes- lazy, coasting, low bball iq, no help defense, poor shooter etc. I hoped he'd be better than Novak- he hasn't even managed that. The trade will go down as one of the many stinkers we've made- the Knicks and Denver could both stink in 2016, so it will probably end up being a good pick.

I was a little sad to see Novakaine go, but I was also almost equally tired of his one-trick pony act. Camby and QRich who?

I bought into the dreamscape of a 7 footer with the mad handle spreading the floor and making Fat Hibbert look silly. Someone for Melo to pass to without second and third thoughts! Bargs was going to be healthy, happy and reborn in the big city! And he was playing good D on some premier bigs! Bonus! Alas, it was not to be.

Oh well. I truly don't worry about Droolan's money, either.

smackeddog wrote:Most people hated it- it reminded everyone of the kind of trade IT would do. Tried to seek solace in the cap clearing for 2015, but we only just signed those guys a season earlier so why the fuck sign them to cap clogging contracts if the plan is to free up cap space for that year?!

I really don't like Bargs- fair or not I associate him with all of this teams woes- lazy, coasting, low bball iq, no help defense, poor shooter etc. I hoped he'd be better than Novak- he hasn't even managed that. The trade will go down as one of the many stinkers we've made- the Knicks and Denver could both stink in 2016, so it will probably end up being a good pick.

jrodmc wrote:We draft like sheehit, look it up, it's easy to do. So the first rounder didn't bother me all that much. Unless of course I kept thinking Steve Mills was suddenly going to become a genius with IT whispering sweet nothings in his ears.

I was a little sad to see Novakaine go, but I was also almost equally tired of his one-trick pony act. Camby and QRich who?

I bought into the dreamscape of a 7 footer with the mad handle spreading the floor and making Fat Hibbert look silly. Someone for Melo to pass to without second and third thoughts! Bargs was going to be healthy, happy and reborn in the big city! And he was playing good D on some premier bigs! Bonus! Alas, it was not to be.

Oh well. I truly don't worry about Droolan's money, either.

We draft okay- under this cba you have to keep your picks because of their cheap contracts.

Novak may be a one trick pony, but alas, Bargs is a no trick pony- what the heck does he do great that makes up for his many short comings?

smackeddog wrote:

jrodmc wrote:We draft like sheehit, look it up, it's easy to do. So the first rounder didn't bother me all that much. Unless of course I kept thinking Steve Mills was suddenly going to become a genius with IT whispering sweet nothings in his ears.

I was a little sad to see Novakaine go, but I was also almost equally tired of his one-trick pony act. Camby and QRich who?

I bought into the dreamscape of a 7 footer with the mad handle spreading the floor and making Fat Hibbert look silly. Someone for Melo to pass to without second and third thoughts! Bargs was going to be healthy, happy and reborn in the big city! And he was playing good D on some premier bigs! Bonus! Alas, it was not to be.

Oh well. I truly don't worry about Droolan's money, either.

We draft okay- under this cba you have to keep your picks because of their cheap contracts.

Novak may be a one trick pony, but alas, Bargs is a no trick pony- what the heck does he do great that makes up for his many short comings?

If you're point is a comparison to Novak, I don't think Bargs needs to do anything great:

Bargs doesn't get into meaningless pissfights with Nate Robinson.
He plays D against the likes of DHoward.
He can actually dribble and get his own shot without 4 screens.
He can dunk.

Thats four.

Next: Why Bargs on the IR is worth more than Camby and QRich on the bench.

jrodmc wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

jrodmc wrote:We draft like sheehit, look it up, it's easy to do. So the first rounder didn't bother me all that much. Unless of course I kept thinking Steve Mills was suddenly going to become a genius with IT whispering sweet nothings in his ears.

I was a little sad to see Novakaine go, but I was also almost equally tired of his one-trick pony act. Camby and QRich who?

I bought into the dreamscape of a 7 footer with the mad handle spreading the floor and making Fat Hibbert look silly. Someone for Melo to pass to without second and third thoughts! Bargs was going to be healthy, happy and reborn in the big city! And he was playing good D on some premier bigs! Bonus! Alas, it was not to be.

Oh well. I truly don't worry about Droolan's money, either.

We draft okay- under this cba you have to keep your picks because of their cheap contracts.

Novak may be a one trick pony, but alas, Bargs is a no trick pony- what the heck does he do great that makes up for his many short comings?

Define "okay", and use examples over the past 29 years.

If you're point is a comparison to Novak, I don't think Bargs needs to do anything great:

Bargs doesn't get into meaningless pissfights with Nate Robinson.
He plays D against the likes of DHoward.
He can actually dribble and get his own shot without 4 screens.
He can dunk.

Thats four.

Next: Why Bargs on the IR is worth more than Camby and QRich on the bench.

So you are actually ok with giving up the 1st rounder? Why? Because we are bad drafters?

jrodmc wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

jrodmc wrote:We draft like sheehit, look it up, it's easy to do. So the first rounder didn't bother me all that much. Unless of course I kept thinking Steve Mills was suddenly going to become a genius with IT whispering sweet nothings in his ears.

I was a little sad to see Novakaine go, but I was also almost equally tired of his one-trick pony act. Camby and QRich who?

I bought into the dreamscape of a 7 footer with the mad handle spreading the floor and making Fat Hibbert look silly. Someone for Melo to pass to without second and third thoughts! Bargs was going to be healthy, happy and reborn in the big city! And he was playing good D on some premier bigs! Bonus! Alas, it was not to be.

Oh well. I truly don't worry about Droolan's money, either.

We draft okay- under this cba you have to keep your picks because of their cheap contracts.

Novak may be a one trick pony, but alas, Bargs is a no trick pony- what the heck does he do great that makes up for his many short comings?

Define "okay", and use examples over the past 29 years.

If you're point is a comparison to Novak, I don't think Bargs needs to do anything great:

Bargs doesn't get into meaningless pissfights with Nate Robinson.
He plays D against the likes of DHoward.
He can actually dribble and get his own shot without 4 screens.
He can dunk.

Thats four.

Next: Why Bargs on the IR is worth more than Camby and QRich on the bench.

Why 29 years?! That's ridiculous- you compare one regime or one set of scouts picks, not lumping together 29 years worth of personnel!

So Bargs can play okay man on man defense against one player we play twice a year and he can dunk (when he isn't breaking his elbow for a year in the process)- slim pickings!

Bonn1997 wrote:I remember saying we should be the ones getting picks in this deal - that's how bad it was.

Bah! You and your analytics were right again!

smackeddog wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

jrodmc wrote:We draft like sheehit, look it up, it's easy to do. So the first rounder didn't bother me all that much. Unless of course I kept thinking Steve Mills was suddenly going to become a genius with IT whispering sweet nothings in his ears.

I was a little sad to see Novakaine go, but I was also almost equally tired of his one-trick pony act. Camby and QRich who?

I bought into the dreamscape of a 7 footer with the mad handle spreading the floor and making Fat Hibbert look silly. Someone for Melo to pass to without second and third thoughts! Bargs was going to be healthy, happy and reborn in the big city! And he was playing good D on some premier bigs! Bonus! Alas, it was not to be.

Oh well. I truly don't worry about Droolan's money, either.

We draft okay- under this cba you have to keep your picks because of their cheap contracts.

Novak may be a one trick pony, but alas, Bargs is a no trick pony- what the heck does he do great that makes up for his many short comings?

Define "okay", and use examples over the past 29 years.

If you're point is a comparison to Novak, I don't think Bargs needs to do anything great:

Bargs doesn't get into meaningless pissfights with Nate Robinson.
He plays D against the likes of DHoward.
He can actually dribble and get his own shot without 4 screens.
He can dunk.

Thats four.

Next: Why Bargs on the IR is worth more than Camby and QRich on the bench.

Why 29 years?! That's ridiculous- you compare one regime or one set of scouts picks, not lumping together 29 years worth of personnel!

So Bargs can play okay man on man defense against one player we play twice a year and he can dunk (when he isn't breaking his elbow for a year in the process)- slim pickings!

Why 29 years, hmmmm, does the year 1985 mean anything to you?
So, you have no examples. Check. Google is your friend. Have fun.

And Bargs played D against Hibbert too, remember? You'd prefer watching Novak get torched by...anyone?

And Novak can do...what, again, exactly?