Knicks · Better PG in the Triangle: OJ Mayo or Rodney Stuckey? (page 1)

NardDogNation @ 3/21/2014 3:19 PM
I meant to add to "...Mayo is the better passer...." that Rodney is better at crashing the boards, which is more useful in the triangle. Just saying.
BRIGGS @ 3/21/2014 3:24 PM
OMG take a chill pill how about neither--they arent PG's
tj23 @ 3/21/2014 3:28 PM
Mayo is definitely a 2 guard in this league. Stuckey is a tweener. Mayo was really good last year but he's struggled every other year. I'd be forced to choose Stuckey if you're asking for a pg. He's a good attacker but I think he's a sixth man type of player. So is Mayo really although he can still be a good starting 2 if he gets his shit together.
NardDogNation @ 3/21/2014 3:28 PM
BRIGGS wrote:OMG take a chill pill how about neither--they arent PG's

Neither was Ron Harper. Neither was BJ Armstrong. Neither was Steve Kerr. The triangle doesn't utilize traditional PG's. Besides, Stuckey played PG his first few years in the league. Are you forgetting that he was Chauncey Billups' heir apparent and then assumed the responsibilities full-time?

NardDogNation @ 3/21/2014 3:30 PM
tj23 wrote:Mayo is definitely a 2 guard in this league. Stuckey is a tweener. Mayo was really good last year but he's struggled every other year. I'd be forced to choose Stuckey if you're asking for a pg. He's a good attacker but I think he's a sixth man type of player. So is Mayo really although he can still be a good starting 2 if he gets his shit together.

The triangle doesn't use traditional PG's (see Ron Harper). It's why I think that both guys deserve a look.

gunsnewing @ 3/21/2014 3:30 PM
I wanna see Amare run the point next year
Cartman718 @ 3/21/2014 3:45 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
tj23 wrote:Mayo is definitely a 2 guard in this league. Stuckey is a tweener. Mayo was really good last year but he's struggled every other year. I'd be forced to choose Stuckey if you're asking for a pg. He's a good attacker but I think he's a sixth man type of player. So is Mayo really although he can still be a good starting 2 if he gets his shit together.

The triangle doesn't use traditional PG's (see Ron Harper). It's why I think that both guys deserve a look.

between those two... stuckey. need a fearless shooter at the point.

mreinman @ 3/21/2014 3:58 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
tj23 wrote:Mayo is definitely a 2 guard in this league. Stuckey is a tweener. Mayo was really good last year but he's struggled every other year. I'd be forced to choose Stuckey if you're asking for a pg. He's a good attacker but I think he's a sixth man type of player. So is Mayo really although he can still be a good starting 2 if he gets his shit together.

The triangle doesn't use traditional PG's (see Ron Harper). It's why I think that both guys deserve a look.

between those two... stuckey. need a fearless shooter at the point.

Felton is a fearless shooter, he is just not that good at it.

Dagger @ 3/21/2014 3:59 PM
Ew and yuck. Do you want the vomit or diarrhea?
NardDogNation @ 3/21/2014 4:03 PM
Dagger wrote:Ew and yuck. Do you want the vomit or diarrhea?

Care to elaborate?

NardDogNation @ 3/21/2014 4:03 PM
mreinman wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
tj23 wrote:Mayo is definitely a 2 guard in this league. Stuckey is a tweener. Mayo was really good last year but he's struggled every other year. I'd be forced to choose Stuckey if you're asking for a pg. He's a good attacker but I think he's a sixth man type of player. So is Mayo really although he can still be a good starting 2 if he gets his shit together.

The triangle doesn't use traditional PG's (see Ron Harper). It's why I think that both guys deserve a look.

between those two... stuckey. need a fearless shooter at the point.

Felton is a fearless shooter, he is just not that good at it.

lol. He needs to be moved in the offseason. There isn't any hope for him.

mreinman @ 3/21/2014 4:04 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
tj23 wrote:Mayo is definitely a 2 guard in this league. Stuckey is a tweener. Mayo was really good last year but he's struggled every other year. I'd be forced to choose Stuckey if you're asking for a pg. He's a good attacker but I think he's a sixth man type of player. So is Mayo really although he can still be a good starting 2 if he gets his shit together.

The triangle doesn't use traditional PG's (see Ron Harper). It's why I think that both guys deserve a look.

between those two... stuckey. need a fearless shooter at the point.

Felton is a fearless shooter, he is just not that good at it.

lol. He needs to be moved in the offseason. There isn't any hope for him.

how the hell are we gonna move him?

NardDogNation @ 3/21/2014 4:06 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
tj23 wrote:Mayo is definitely a 2 guard in this league. Stuckey is a tweener. Mayo was really good last year but he's struggled every other year. I'd be forced to choose Stuckey if you're asking for a pg. He's a good attacker but I think he's a sixth man type of player. So is Mayo really although he can still be a good starting 2 if he gets his shit together.

The triangle doesn't use traditional PG's (see Ron Harper). It's why I think that both guys deserve a look.

between those two... stuckey. need a fearless shooter at the point.

I was leaning toward Stuckey too because he's a free agent, which makes him more readily attainable. Even so, OJ Mayo can ball and he showed that for stretches last year and his first two years in the league. He's had some down seasons but he has the potential for more in the right system.

chewy @ 3/21/2014 4:07 PM
When I think of PG in triangle, I think of Steve Kerr, Paxson, BJ, Fisher,and players like that. So I would go with Jimmer.
Dagger @ 3/21/2014 4:09 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Dagger wrote:Ew and yuck. Do you want the vomit or diarrhea?

Care to elaborate?

Neither are PG's why would you want either of them as a PG, you don't win playing players out of position when they don't have the skills required for that role.

NardDogNation @ 3/21/2014 4:09 PM
mreinman wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
tj23 wrote:Mayo is definitely a 2 guard in this league. Stuckey is a tweener. Mayo was really good last year but he's struggled every other year. I'd be forced to choose Stuckey if you're asking for a pg. He's a good attacker but I think he's a sixth man type of player. So is Mayo really although he can still be a good starting 2 if he gets his shit together.

The triangle doesn't use traditional PG's (see Ron Harper). It's why I think that both guys deserve a look.

between those two... stuckey. need a fearless shooter at the point.

Felton is a fearless shooter, he is just not that good at it.

lol. He needs to be moved in the offseason. There isn't any hope for him.

how the hell are we gonna move him?

Some think prayer works....

But I have no idea. The only way a team takes him is if we're giving up other assets, they are looking to dump longer contracts or if Felton has rapport with decision-making individuals in an organization. The later option is the only one that should be appealing to us and I think that the Nets would oblige. Remember that Kidd and him were teammates, so maybe Kidd has faith that he can turn things around. I think JR, Felton, Kenyon and maybe cash for Marcus Thorton might have some legs.

dk7th @ 3/21/2014 4:14 PM
both are losers.

holding my nose, it comes down to who hits a corner three better and defends better.

NardDogNation @ 3/21/2014 4:20 PM
Dagger wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Dagger wrote:Ew and yuck. Do you want the vomit or diarrhea?

Care to elaborate?

Neither are PG's why would you want either of them as a PG, you don't win playing players out of position when they don't have the skills required for that role.

Stuckey's run point more often than not. In Detroit, he was the heir apparent to Chauncey Billups and then he played a couple seasons as their starting PG. In any case, all that is irrelevant because the triangle doesn't use "point guards". Could Steve Kerr even dribble a basketball? I ask because he was the Bulls backup PG. Whether they are starters or backups, PG's in the triangle of this ilk: guys who are good shooters that can move without the ball and defend their position.

gunsnewing @ 3/21/2014 4:24 PM
chewy wrote:When I think of PG in triangle, I think of Steve Kerr, Paxson, BJ, Fisher,and players like that. So I would go with Jimmer.

High IQ AND DEFENSE. Jimmer lacks both

Nevermind Mayo & Stuckey

NardDogNation @ 3/21/2014 4:38 PM
chewy wrote:When I think of PG in triangle, I think of Steve Kerr, Paxson, BJ, Fisher,and players like that. So I would go with Jimmer.

I want Jimmer but I'd be hesitant to give him the keys to the car. At least Stuckey and Mayo have demonstrated that they can be starters consistently. And both are good defenders.

NardDogNation @ 3/21/2014 4:41 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
chewy wrote:When I think of PG in triangle, I think of Steve Kerr, Paxson, BJ, Fisher,and players like that. So I would go with Jimmer.

High IQ AND DEFENSE. Jimmer lacks both

Nevermind Mayo & Stuckey


Have you actually seen Mayo play. I've never heard of a scouting report that described him as having low IQ. Funky attitude? Sure. Tweener? Absolutely. Poor explosion? Unfortunately. But poor IQ? Never. Dude is a fundamentally sound and bright player, which has been his M.O. since coming out of college.
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