Knicks · Other teams make good moves to fortify; we let Earl Clark go :( (page 1)

Finestrg @ 3/28/2014 2:16 PM
This is the stuff that just gets me nuts. Miami just signed 7 footer Justin Hamilton for about 100k for the rest of the year with an option for next year. See, that's just smart leadership right from the top. Hamilton's had a very good year in the DL -- almost a 20/10 season. He's not the most explosive or the quickest but what he does he does very well -- very good jump-shooter with legit 3-pt range, he'll run the floor, take up space inside, play reasonably good defense and rebound the ball. 7' 265....This guy will definitely be effective at the NBA level if given a chance... Picture a much better version of Michael Doleac with deeper range; maybe something close to more of a legit C version of Troy Murphy in his prime. Very nice move....

And then the Thunder just sign 6'6" SG/SF Reggie Williams to a deal. Monster scorer in college, proved he could play at the NBA level with GS a couple of years ago. Just reading somewhere where someone said they just effectively replaced James Harden with this move. To a degree that's true -- he's not Harden obviously but he has a very similar game. Lefty that can shooter and score the ball in a wide variety of ways..

Two great moves where the rich just got richer. And what do we do? Astonishingly enough, we manage to bring in a pretty good young talent/good fit with Earl Clark, a guy who looked real good in the big road win @ Boston, only to turn around and waive him 10 days later...and we keep Shannon Brown, a guy who's a terrible fit. Even if Phil did that to throw one of his former players a bone, OK np. But why waive Clark? So far we've done nothing to fill the open spot. If there was a plan to bring in a better option than Clark, OK let's see it...We're down K-mart probably for the remainder, Jeremy Tyler's looked pretty bad down the stretch here, Woodson just won't give Aldrich a legit shot, Amar'e's looked very good recently but as we all know, he can break down at any time, etc.. -- I mean Clark's a frontcourt player who can ball and could've helped here. WTF?

Hopefully this is a just a minor mistake to start off the Phil Jackson era. I remain hopeful. When this guy says things like "we're on a search for talent" and we need to go out there and "shake the trees" for some talent, that's music to my ears. Hopefully we really leave no stone unturned. There's a ton of guys out there that could help us...Just hate to see other teams out there make good moves to get themselves better and we do nothing.

mreinman @ 3/28/2014 2:21 PM
I was hoping that they use the spot for a PG. That is our biggest hole. Shannon Brown looks awful buy I think that Phil needed his own herb so that he can explain the locker room dynamics to him. With him, its all about mind games.
NardDogNation @ 3/28/2014 3:07 PM
Finestrg wrote:This is the stuff that just gets me nuts. Miami just signed 7 footer Justin Hamilton for about 100k for the rest of the year with an option for next year. See, that's just smart leadership right from the top. Hamilton's had a very good year in the DL -- almost a 20/10 season. He's not the most explosive or the quickest but what he does he does very well -- very good jump-shooter with legit 3-pt range, he'll run the floor, take up space inside, play reasonably good defense and rebound the ball. 7' 265....This guy will definitely be effective at the NBA level if given a chance... Picture a much better version of Michael Doleac with deeper range; maybe something close to more of a legit C version of Troy Murphy in his prime. Very nice move....

And then the Thunder just sign 6'6" SG/SF Reggie Williams to a deal. Monster scorer in college, proved he could play at the NBA level with GS a couple of years ago. Just reading somewhere where someone said they just effectively replaced James Harden with this move. To a degree that's true -- he's not Harden obviously but he has a very similar game. Lefty that can shooter and score the ball in a wide variety of ways..

Two great moves where the rich just got richer. And what do we do? Astonishingly enough, we manage to bring in a pretty good young talent/good fit with Earl Clark, a guy who looked real good in the big road win @ Boston, only to turn around and waive him 10 days later...and we keep Shannon Brown, a guy who's a terrible fit. Even if Phil did that to throw one of his former players a bone, OK np. But why waive Clark? So far we've done nothing to fill the open spot. If there was a plan to bring in a better option than Clark, OK let's see it...We're down K-mart probably for the remainder, Jeremy Tyler's looked pretty bad down the stretch here, Woodson just won't give Aldrich a legit shot, Amar'e's looked very good recently but as we all know, he can break down at any time, etc.. -- I mean Clark's a frontcourt player who can ball and could've helped here. WTF?

Hopefully this is a just a minor mistake to start off the Phil Jackson era. I remain hopeful. When this guy says things like "we're on a search for talent" and we need to go out there and "shake the trees" for some talent, that's music to my ears. Hopefully we really leave no stone unturned. There's a ton of guys out there that could help us...Just hate to see other teams out there make good moves to get themselves better and we do nothing.

Yeah, I still don't get the rationale of the move (waiving Earl Clark). It was incredibly dumb IMO. He could've fit/contributed in this system AND he could've been an excellent fit in the triangle.

As for Shannon Brown, I think he was brought in to add some depth at the 2 in order to move Shumpert this offseason. Brown's nothing special but I don't think he has been any worse than Shumpert has been this season (save for a little hotstreak he went on in either January or February).

Nalod @ 3/28/2014 5:28 PM
Damn, Clark gone and there go the season!
CrushAlot @ 3/28/2014 5:46 PM
I agree. There was a post the other day where someone referred to the Knicks being torched by a team lead by a former dleaguer, Kendall Marshall. Marshall was a lottery pick in 2012, 13th, and has been compared to mjax as a player. How did the Knicks hang onto the likes of Chris and Toure when that guy was available for nothing and was blowing up in the dleague.

On a side note, there is a lot of talent in the dleague. I am not sold on Tyler or Murry. Murry may not be 15th man material the way he has looked. It seems like the Knicks could bring someone in that could help and possibly be a part of the future. Gutierez (nets) and Curry (Cavs) would have been my choices.

BigDaddyG @ 3/28/2014 6:07 PM
I can't be too upset about Earl Clark. It's not like the dude is a young up and comer. He's 26, played for five teams in four years and he hasn't shown much. I didn't really see much in the way of enthusiasm, energy and desperation from Clark in the limited minutes he played for us. And even if he did, it's not like he would've been given enough time to show he can play. The season is pretty much over. That will leave us plenty of time to look at the Earl Clark's of the world for potential Summer League and camp invites.
gunsnewing @ 3/28/2014 6:08 PM
Murray is TD without the 3

Being a poor man's TD IS NOT GOOD.

BigDaddyG @ 3/28/2014 6:12 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I agree. There was a post the other day where someone referred to the Knicks being torched by a team lead by a former dleaguer, Kendall Marshall. Marshall was a lottery pick in 2012, 13th, and has been compared to mjax as a player. How did the Knicks hang onto the likes of Chris and Toure when that guy was available for nothing and was blowing up in the dleague.

On a side note, there is a lot of talent in the dleague. I am not sold on Tyler or Murry. Murry may not be 15th man material the way he has looked. It seems like the Knicks could bring someone in that could help and possibly be a part of the future. Gutierez (nets) and Curry (Cavs) would have been my choices.

Kendall Marshall's game has levelled off, as expected. Look at his stats. He's in the same boat as Tour'e and other young D-League players. He has strengths and flaws that need to be worked on. In Marshall's case, it's the ability to play defense, penetrate and finish in the paint. Can't kill the Knicks too much on that one. At least Murray's strengths are in area that the team needs.

NardDogNation @ 3/28/2014 8:32 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Murray is TD without the 3

Being a poor man's TD IS NOT GOOD.

Being compared to Tony Douglas in any capacity is not good, lol.

Dagger @ 3/28/2014 8:50 PM
I think you're freaking out over a player that is not very good
H1AND1 @ 3/29/2014 10:10 AM
The season is over. Earl Clark is a late 20's journeyman who has never showed any capacity to be a consistent player in the NBA. Releasing him is really not a big deal. He's not the missing piece nor is he a difference maker.

I do agree the Knicks need to be better at finding talent but the bottom line is Clark is not some hidden gem.

Nalod @ 3/29/2014 11:10 AM
For kendall marshall to get his chance both Nash and Farmar had to go down.

Lin got his chance when players sat.

And, MDA is PG-Centric and lakers suck so its a formula for Knick regret.

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