Knicks · I PREDICT WE BEAT THE HEAT (page 7)

knicks1248 @ 4/6/2014 3:32 PM
shump and jr have been brutal on their defensive rotations
mreinman @ 4/6/2014 3:32 PM
nixluva wrote:Just watching this team play is so frustrating. The Heat are a help defense and too often we get the ball to Melo with his back to the rest of the defense and the rest of the floor. He has no idea who is coming to help on D and he can't see the whole floor to look for players to pass to. They just make it so hard for themselves.

Melo has passed great today. Would be nice to have Lebron James (13/21) on our team, no? Can't believe we are even close with our E league players.

dk7th @ 4/6/2014 3:32 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:when you don't get stops and are relying on 3 point shooting you have given up.

the knicks are not getting stops

given up implies no effort. if that is what you see then you are in a delusional state.

they are playing desperately. They just suck.

suppose Shump hits that 3. Of course he misses. Suppose Felton can not be ignored on PnR's? Suppose Melo hit some more shots?

Effort missing? C'mon

then i am delusional. too many wide open shots and too many lanes to the basket.

JS3 @ 4/6/2014 3:33 PM
mreinman wrote:
JS3 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
JS3 wrote:
Dagger wrote:Season over. Couldn't afford to lose that wizards game. We've just let too many games slip through our fingers this year.

yes, we came really ready to the season...

even with PJax on their mind, and when they suppose to impress for next year, they are blowing it.

let Melo go, trade Tyson/STAT/Felton, sign some expired and some nice role players instead of Melo, and let PJax begin his era with a smart BB

When people say "trade Stat and Felton", makes me think that they are not informed.

STAT is showing nice BB lately and he has some value + he is on expiring contract, easy trade, for anything.

Felton? well, i would trade him even for a late 10th round of the NFL if possible, so yes, i'm informed

Stat cannot be traded!!

The only team that would trade for him is the Knicks.

Expiring does not have the same value as before.

i know, but how about another expiring for him? i just don't want to see him for another year and not compete again

mreinman @ 4/6/2014 3:33 PM
puke 3.

nice board

TeamBall @ 4/6/2014 3:34 PM
What does Woodson draw on that board? It can't actually be a play
mreinman @ 4/6/2014 3:34 PM
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:when you don't get stops and are relying on 3 point shooting you have given up.

the knicks are not getting stops

given up implies no effort. if that is what you see then you are in a delusional state.

they are playing desperately. They just suck.

suppose Shump hits that 3. Of course he misses. Suppose Felton can not be ignored on PnR's? Suppose Melo hit some more shots?

Effort missing? C'mon

then i am delusional. too many wide open shots and too many lanes to the basket.

Not effort. Execution on PnR defense is just gross

ScoreBot @ 4/6/2014 3:35 PM
4th Qtr 1:14
MIA 100 NYK 91
mreinman @ 4/6/2014 3:36 PM
Hit or Miss JR always Misses in the playoffs. I have seen enough. Horrible basketball and horrible players
smackeddog @ 4/6/2014 3:36 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:when you don't get stops and are relying on 3 point shooting you have given up.

the knicks are not getting stops

given up implies no effort. if that is what you see then you are in a delusional state.

they are playing desperately. They just suck.

suppose Shump hits that 3. Of course he misses. Suppose Felton can not be ignored on PnR's? Suppose Melo hit some more shots?

Effort missing? C'mon

then i am delusional. too many wide open shots and too many lanes to the basket.

Not effort. Execution on PnR defense is just gross

Been like that all damn season

nixluva @ 4/6/2014 3:36 PM
It's not that we have a bad team. We have a bad approach to the game. One team was playing smart high % BB and the Knicks played Dumb low % BB for the most part, which was covered up by JR hitting so many wild 3's. The rest of the offense has been a horror show.
mreinman @ 4/6/2014 3:36 PM
JS3 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
JS3 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
JS3 wrote:
Dagger wrote:Season over. Couldn't afford to lose that wizards game. We've just let too many games slip through our fingers this year.

yes, we came really ready to the season...

even with PJax on their mind, and when they suppose to impress for next year, they are blowing it.

let Melo go, trade Tyson/STAT/Felton, sign some expired and some nice role players instead of Melo, and let PJax begin his era with a smart BB

When people say "trade Stat and Felton", makes me think that they are not informed.

STAT is showing nice BB lately and he has some value + he is on expiring contract, easy trade, for anything.

Felton? well, i would trade him even for a late 10th round of the NFL if possible, so yes, i'm informed

Stat cannot be traded!!

The only team that would trade for him is the Knicks.

Expiring does not have the same value as before.

i know, but how about another expiring for him? i just don't want to see him for another year and not compete again

Why would we want someone elses crap? Like who?

dk7th @ 4/6/2014 3:38 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:when you don't get stops and are relying on 3 point shooting you have given up.

the knicks are not getting stops

given up implies no effort. if that is what you see then you are in a delusional state.

they are playing desperately. They just suck.

suppose Shump hits that 3. Of course he misses. Suppose Felton can not be ignored on PnR's? Suppose Melo hit some more shots?

Effort missing? C'mon

then i am delusional. too many wide open shots and too many lanes to the basket.

Not effort. Execution on PnR defense is just gross

ha ha what's the difference? sounds like semantics.

gunsnewing @ 4/6/2014 3:39 PM
Nice it's finally over now
nixluva @ 4/6/2014 3:39 PM
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:Just watching this team play is so frustrating. The Heat are a help defense and too often we get the ball to Melo with his back to the rest of the defense and the rest of the floor. He has no idea who is coming to help on D and he can't see the whole floor to look for players to pass to. They just make it so hard for themselves.

Melo has passed great today. Would be nice to have Lebron James (13/21) on our team, no? Can't believe we are even close with our E league players.


I have to disagree a bit. It's not that we don't have any talent. We simply don't play smart BB and in particular the actual offensive scheme is leading to tons of low % poor shots and a lack of spacing, flow and deception. You don't see any LOGIC to the way this team plays BB. I see PLENTY of logic to the game plan for the Heat or a team like the Spurs etc. Good teams are more than just a collection of talent.
ScoreBot @ 4/6/2014 3:40 PM
Final  
MIA 102 NYK 91
ToddTT @ 4/6/2014 3:40 PM
I don't think I give shit what this team does for the next year+.
nixluva @ 4/6/2014 3:41 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Nice it's finally over now

The Hawks play the Pacers so it's not necessarily over just yet.

dk7th @ 4/6/2014 3:41 PM
this is what i cannot stand about smith: zero fucking free throws
mreinman @ 4/6/2014 3:45 PM
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:when you don't get stops and are relying on 3 point shooting you have given up.

the knicks are not getting stops

given up implies no effort. if that is what you see then you are in a delusional state.

they are playing desperately. They just suck.

suppose Shump hits that 3. Of course he misses. Suppose Felton can not be ignored on PnR's? Suppose Melo hit some more shots?

Effort missing? C'mon

then i am delusional. too many wide open shots and too many lanes to the basket.

Not effort. Execution on PnR defense is just gross

ha ha what's the difference? sounds like semantics.

Bad execution and defensive system design combined with lack of talent.

That is not "effort"

I do agree that they are awful. This team is clumsy. We don't have any consistent shooters at guard.

Feast or Famine basketball cannot be successful.

JR has been on fire but we both know that he is either hot or cold. THJ is feast or famine. Felton and shump are always Famine.

We are not losing because of our front line, we are losing and we suck because our guards cause me to throw up in my mouth.

Blow it up!!

mreinman @ 4/6/2014 3:47 PM
dk7th wrote:this is what i cannot stand about smith: zero fucking free throws

The knicks are 30th in the league in FT attempts and Melo gets to the line.

See a problem here? Our guards cannot penetrate nor can they shoot.

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