In the words of Phil:
An effective offense, to my way of thinking, features the following dimensions.
1. Penetration. Players must penetrate the defense, and the best way to do this is the fast break, because basketball is a full-court game, from baseline to baseline.
2. Spacing. I am a fanatic about how players distribute themselves on the offensive end of the court. They must space themselves in a way that makes it most difficult to defend, trap, and help. Players must align a certain number of feet apart. In high school, I’d recommend 12 to 15 feet spacing, in college, 15 to18 feet, and in the NBA, 15 to 20 feet. Proper spacing not only exposes individual defensive players’ vulnerabilities, but also ensures that every time the defense tries to trap, an offensive player will be open.
3. Ball and player movements. Players must move, and must move the ball, with a purpose. Effective off-the-ball activity is much more important than most fans and players think because they’re so used to watching only the movement of the ball and the player in possession of it. But there is only one ball and there are five players, meaning most players will have the ball in their hands 20 percent or less of the time the team is in possession of the ball.
4. Options for the ball handler. The more options a smart player has to attack a defender, the more successful that offensive player will be. When teammates are all moving to positions to free themselves (or another teammate with a pick), the ball handler’s choices are vastly increased.
5. Offensive rebounding and defensive balance. On all shots we take, players must go strong for the rebound while retaining court balance and awareness to prevent the opponent’s fast break.
6. Versatile positioning. The offense must offer to any player the chance to fill any spot on the court, independent of the player’s role. All positions should be interchangeable.
7. Use individual talents. It only makes sense for an offense to allow a team to take advantage of the skill sets of its best players. This doesn’t preclude the focus on team play that is emphasized in the six other principles, but it does acknowledge that some individuals have certain types and degrees of talent, and an offense should accentuate those assets. Michael Jordan taught me this.
Finally, I want the offense to flow from rebound to fast break, to quick offense, to a system of offense. The defenses in the NBA are so good because the players are so big, quick, and well coached. Add the pressure that the 24-second clock rule applies to the offense to find a good shot, and the defense gets even better.
The triangle offense has proven most effective, even against such obstacles, when players commit to and execute the system. The offense hinges on players attending to minute details in executing not just plays but also the fundamentals underlying the plays. Once players have mastered the individual techniques required of their roles, we then integrate those individuals into a team. Once this is done, the foundation for a good offense is solidly in place. The team can then go on the court with the confidence and poise so essential to success.
This method of play is as old as basketball. The triangle set is adjustable to the personnel, but such adaptations can be made without altering the essence of the offense. The only necessary adjustment from one season to the next involves tailoring the series of options based on each individual’s talents.
This is an excerpt from NBA Coaches Playbook, by National Basketball Coaches Association; Giorgio Gandolfi, editor.
http://www.humankinetics.com/excerpts/excerpts/learn-the-seven-dimensions-of-a-sound-offense
Great post. All the things we've been clamorimg for during the Michael Woodson era. Stoked to finally see basketball played the right way
gunsnewing wrote:Great post. All the things we've been clamorimg for during the Michael Woodson era. Stoked to finally see basketball played the right way
1. Penetration
2. Ball movement
3. Options for the ball handler
4. Versitile positioning
5. Use individual talents
Sex manual?
gunsnewing wrote:Great post. All the things we've been clamorimg for during the Michael Woodson era. Stoked to finally see basketball played the right way
You make it sound like Woodson just wings it!
If you sat down with any coach there philosophy also makes great sense. No doubt Phil has had great success and key of course is having the right personel and chemistry to execute a plan.
MDA had it in PHX but not since.
For the record, if Woodsons time is up then its fine with me. Dude is getting paid either way.
Actually we had some of that but that was Coach Kidd
gunsnewing wrote:Actually we had some of that but that was Coach Kidd
Then Kudo's to coach Woodson for being open minded to allow a player to contribute as he did!!
too bad Phil won't be coaching.. too many of you are putting emphasis on his coaching principles, well he isn't coaching. you can hope that he hires a coach who shares those same thoughts, but in the end, phil will not be on the bench. His biggest impact will be felt in the structure of this franchise... Lets hope he is good enough fixing that, as he has had no experience doing so...
Nalod wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Actually we had some of that but that was Coach Kidd
Then Kudo's to coach Woodson for being open minded to allow a player to contribute as he did!!
well said.
maybe he realized that he does not have the clout to get these selfish idiots to play unselfishly but he knew that they would listen to an HOF'er.
I can't imagine that phil would not hire a guy that is an exention of himself.
Kurt Rambis or Kerr seem to be the most discussed choices. Rambis could end up with Lakers.
Don't worry about Rambis, he was foolish to take the job when you had a GM not in synch with the Owners hiring.
Rambis would get full support of his owner and his president!
gunsnewing wrote:Actually we had some of that but that was Coach Kidd
Exactly, but the problem with woodson isn't that he doesn't believe in this philosophy because he does preach ball movement, spacing and and running. If the players are not excuting his plan, all he does is give them a blank look, our players look so unprepared on most nights and we have zero poise in clutch situation..
#8. order nba league pass so he can watch the team.
don't know if you guys are aware but the raptors approached him this summer after leiweke took over since they had connections in LA. but it didn't really go anywhere and we hired ujiri. thank god. it would suck to see derek fisher, luke walton and rick fox (aka your 2015 ny knicks captains) in the starting lineup...
tkf wrote:too bad Phil won't be coaching.. too many of you are putting emphasis on his coaching principles, well he isn't coaching. you can hope that he hires a coach who shares those same thoughts, but in the end, phil will not be on the bench. His biggest impact will be felt in the structure of this franchise... Lets hope he is good enough fixing that, as he has had no experience doing so...
At the press conference, Phil made it very clear that he will be embedding these 7 principals in to the team DNA. He even said Dolan can get on the court if he can memorize them :)
You mean he doesnt want anyone to throw up 25 3's?
BRIGGS wrote:You mean he doesnt want anyone to throw up 25 3's?
What is wrong with 25 3's?
TeamBall wrote:tkf wrote:too bad Phil won't be coaching.. too many of you are putting emphasis on his coaching principles, well he isn't coaching. you can hope that he hires a coach who shares those same thoughts, but in the end, phil will not be on the bench. His biggest impact will be felt in the structure of this franchise... Lets hope he is good enough fixing that, as he has had no experience doing so...
Why would he not?
WELL let me rephrase, lets hope he hires a coach that can implement those same strategies on the court... The triangle is not for everyone, and even with the amount of success the bulls and lakers had with it, they also had elite players... Not many teams run the triangle.. makes you wonder why....
freeskier wrote:tkf wrote:too bad Phil won't be coaching.. too many of you are putting emphasis on his coaching principles, well he isn't coaching. you can hope that he hires a coach who shares those same thoughts, but in the end, phil will not be on the bench. His biggest impact will be felt in the structure of this franchise... Lets hope he is good enough fixing that, as he has had no experience doing so...
At the press conference, Phil made it very clear that he will be embedding these 7 principals in to the team DNA. He even said Dolan can get on the court if he can memorize them :)
he can try, but how would he do so if he is not coaching? what style of ball do the bulls play? they play thibs stype, not that of the GM or president... same with the Heat, and the warriors, and the thunder.... lets hope phil puts in place the right people that can carry out what he wants... It is easier said then done... and this is phils first go at something like this... it isn't a given.. if he were coaching, all of this talk of stamping these things on a team, would make more sense to me... what I hope is that he instills a winning culture in that front office, the way they do business and the type of people they surround themselves with... everything else will or should trickle down...
but phil is no longer coaching..
tkf wrote:freeskier wrote:tkf wrote:too bad Phil won't be coaching.. too many of you are putting emphasis on his coaching principles, well he isn't coaching. you can hope that he hires a coach who shares those same thoughts, but in the end, phil will not be on the bench. His biggest impact will be felt in the structure of this franchise... Lets hope he is good enough fixing that, as he has had no experience doing so...
At the press conference, Phil made it very clear that he will be embedding these 7 principals in to the team DNA. He even said Dolan can get on the court if he can memorize them :)
he can try, but how would he do so if he is not coaching? what style of ball do the bulls play? they play thibs stype, not that of the GM or president... same with the Heat, and the warriors, and the thunder.... lets hope phil puts in place the right people that can carry out what he wants... It is easier said then done... and this is phils first go at something like this... it isn't a given.. if he were coaching, all of this talk of stamping these things on a team, would make more sense to me... what I hope is that he instills a winning culture in that front office, the way they do business and the type of people they surround themselves with... everything else will or should trickle down...
but phil is no longer coaching..
Spolestra is mentored by Riley. It has been reported that they meet everyday and go over philosophy and coaching. I think Phil will try to have the same relationship/influence on his coach.
Woodson will read #6 and put Tyson at the point.
CrushAlot wrote:tkf wrote:freeskier wrote:tkf wrote:too bad Phil won't be coaching.. too many of you are putting emphasis on his coaching principles, well he isn't coaching. you can hope that he hires a coach who shares those same thoughts, but in the end, phil will not be on the bench. His biggest impact will be felt in the structure of this franchise... Lets hope he is good enough fixing that, as he has had no experience doing so...
At the press conference, Phil made it very clear that he will be embedding these 7 principals in to the team DNA. He even said Dolan can get on the court if he can memorize them :)
he can try, but how would he do so if he is not coaching? what style of ball do the bulls play? they play thibs stype, not that of the GM or president... same with the Heat, and the warriors, and the thunder.... lets hope phil puts in place the right people that can carry out what he wants... It is easier said then done... and this is phils first go at something like this... it isn't a given.. if he were coaching, all of this talk of stamping these things on a team, would make more sense to me... what I hope is that he instills a winning culture in that front office, the way they do business and the type of people they surround themselves with... everything else will or should trickle down...
but phil is no longer coaching..
Spolestra is mentored by Riley. It has been reported that they meet everyday and go over philosophy and coaching. I think Phil will try to have the same relationship/influence on his coach.
That would great. The last time we had that (grunwald and Woodson) we had our most successful season in years.
