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holfresh @ 4/18/2014 5:33 PM


Mike Woodson 'bracing' for worst

While it is widely believed that the New York Knicks have already made the decision to move on from coach Mike Woodson, sources tell ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard that nothing will be announced this weekend.

Woodson's fate is likely to be announced early next week.

Sources close to the situation told ESPN that Woodson is "bracing" for the worst, especially after the Knicks conducted exit interviews with players Thursday without the coach present.

It is thought, however, that Woodson has not been told of his fate.

Earlier Friday, a league source told ESPNNewYork.com's Ian Begley that Woodson is not interested in having a face-to-face meeting with team president Phil Jackson until he gets further clarification on his status.

The Knicks' subpar performance this season has led to widespread speculation about Woodson's future with the team.

On Wednesday, the coach said he'd like a resolution on whether he will return next season as soon as possible. Friday on "SportsCenter," ESPN's Stephen A. Smith said Woodson would prefer that Jackson reach out to his agent if he's going to fire him rather than have a face-to-face meeting to inform him he's being let go.

The widespread belief in NBA coaching circles remains that the job will be Steve Kerr's if he wants it, as reported by ESPN.com from the day Phil Jackson was introduced as Knicks president in March.

Oklahoma City Thunder guard Derek Fisher also has been mentioned as a possibilty as a coach or for a front-office position. Fisher said going into this season, his 18th, that it would be his last as a player, but it's believed he prefers a future on the executive side to coaching.

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mreinman @ 4/18/2014 5:37 PM
this is getting eerily uncomfortable. this should have happened the day after the season.
yellowboy90 @ 4/18/2014 5:51 PM
holfresh wrote:[urlhttp://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10804211/mike-woodson-coach-new-york-knicks-fate-decided-weekend][/url]

Mike Woodson 'bracing' for worst

While it is widely believed that the New York Knicks have already made the decision to move on from coach Mike Woodson, sources tell ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard that nothing will be announced this weekend.

Woodson's fate is likely to be announced early next week.

Sources close to the situation told ESPN that Woodson is "bracing" for the worst, especially after the Knicks conducted exit interviews with players Thursday without the coach present.

It is thought, however, that Woodson has not been told of his fate.

Earlier Friday, a league source told ESPNNewYork.com's Ian Begley that Woodson is not interested in having a face-to-face meeting with team president Phil Jackson until he gets further clarification on his status.

The Knicks' subpar performance this season has led to widespread speculation about Woodson's future with the team.

On Wednesday, the coach said he'd like a resolution on whether he will return next season as soon as possible. Friday on "SportsCenter," ESPN's Stephen A. Smith said Woodson would prefer that Jackson reach out to his agent if he's going to fire him rather than have a face-to-face meeting to inform him he's being let go.

The widespread belief in NBA coaching circles remains that the job will be Steve Kerr's if he wants it, as reported by ESPN.com from the day Phil Jackson was introduced as Knicks president in March.

Oklahoma City Thunder guard Derek Fisher also has been mentioned as a possibilty as a coach or for a front-office position. Fisher said going into this season, his 18th, that it would be his last as a player, but it's believed he prefers a future on the executive side to coaching.

AT first I was like who does this but then again why waste time for a face to face if you are being fired? What real purpose would it serve? I guess it is poor form for Woodson to have this out but it is likely that his agent shared the info to the media.

franco12 @ 4/18/2014 10:22 PM
i thought jackson might help with class. maybe not.
dk7th @ 4/18/2014 11:52 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:[urlhttp://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10804211/mike-woodson-coach-new-york-knicks-fate-decided-weekend][/url]

Mike Woodson 'bracing' for worst

While it is widely believed that the New York Knicks have already made the decision to move on from coach Mike Woodson, sources tell ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard that nothing will be announced this weekend.

Woodson's fate is likely to be announced early next week.

Sources close to the situation told ESPN that Woodson is "bracing" for the worst, especially after the Knicks conducted exit interviews with players Thursday without the coach present.

It is thought, however, that Woodson has not been told of his fate.

Earlier Friday, a league source told ESPNNewYork.com's Ian Begley that Woodson is not interested in having a face-to-face meeting with team president Phil Jackson until he gets further clarification on his status.

The Knicks' subpar performance this season has led to widespread speculation about Woodson's future with the team.

On Wednesday, the coach said he'd like a resolution on whether he will return next season as soon as possible. Friday on "SportsCenter," ESPN's Stephen A. Smith said Woodson would prefer that Jackson reach out to his agent if he's going to fire him rather than have a face-to-face meeting to inform him he's being let go.

The widespread belief in NBA coaching circles remains that the job will be Steve Kerr's if he wants it, as reported by ESPN.com from the day Phil Jackson was introduced as Knicks president in March.

Oklahoma City Thunder guard Derek Fisher also has been mentioned as a possibilty as a coach or for a front-office position. Fisher said going into this season, his 18th, that it would be his last as a player, but it's believed he prefers a future on the executive side to coaching.

AT first I was like who does this but then again why waste time for a face to face if you are being fired? What real purpose would it serve? I guess it is poor form for Woodson to have this out but it is likely that his agent shared the info to the media.

the team underperformed no doubt. that is one undeniable issue. but insofar as woodson has admitted that the season was a failure because of him, this is another issue. this stuff you are quoting? posturing nonsense. saving face. not to mention that woodson is utterly incapable of instituting system basketball. he has yet to figure out a system and he is an assistant coach until then.

Dagger @ 4/19/2014 12:49 AM
franco12 wrote:i thought jackson might help with class. maybe not.

The only lack of class I see here is on woodson's part. There's nothing in his contract that says the team has to fire him immediately after the last game if they are thinking of letting him go.

Clean @ 4/19/2014 4:07 AM
Since when does Woody give orders to his boss. If I did not plan on firing him before those statements, he would have made it unavoidable to fire him now.
franco12 @ 4/19/2014 6:46 AM
Dagger wrote:
franco12 wrote:i thought jackson might help with class. maybe not.

The only lack of class I see here is on woodson's part. There's nothing in his contract that says the team has to fire him immediately after the last game if they are thinking of letting him go.

Really? Maybe you guys have never been fire before?

This firing has been hanging over his head since mid season. Lets let the man move on.

He would have been part of the exit interviews- but wasn't- so clearly, a decision has been made about his status. Why drag it out?

Its not necessary and its no fun to live under the gun.

I think its the decent thing to do, and if he is being fired- better to let him know through his agent like he asked, than to pretend you're having a meeting with someone who is just going to axe you!

gunsnewing @ 4/19/2014 6:53 AM
If he wants to be paid the $4mil he is owed he better be at the media and abide to all the media policies and keep his lips zipped

Unless he wants to lose Millions like Larry Brown did when he breached his contract after taking to the media curbside as he pulled away in his SUV

EnySpree @ 4/19/2014 7:24 AM
franco12 wrote:i thought jackson might help with class. maybe not.

Phil strikes me as a guy that enjoys conversing. So for him to want to have a face to face means alot. That to me is class. Woodson deserves to hear from Phil. Phil might want to apologize for whatever management did to make his job harder, and extend a hand in helping him secure his next coaching gig. That's class. New stuff for this organization.

franco12 @ 4/19/2014 8:04 AM
EnySpree wrote:
franco12 wrote:i thought jackson might help with class. maybe not.

Phil strikes me as a guy that enjoys conversing. So for him to want to have a face to face means alot. That to me is class. Woodson deserves to hear from Phil. Phil might want to apologize for whatever management did to make his job harder, and extend a hand in helping him secure his next coaching gig. That's class. New stuff for this organization.


yea - but- no reason they can't tell his agent this, and then still sit down with him.

Now - for all we know - Phil might actually be thinking of keeping him around. Its not like Woody has a system, or actually a good one!

Maybe they bring in someone like Kerr as a lead assistant, just like Woody was for MDA.

And Woody gets another year.

I think Woody's strength seemed to be relating to some of the personalities on the squad.

I'm certainly not advocating.

gunsnewing @ 4/19/2014 8:31 AM
Knicks will steal headlines from the Nyets next week when they announce Woodson is fired.

I might actually root for the Nyets. It would only push the Knicks to get better and smarter. And I've really grown to respect JKidd

Dagger @ 4/19/2014 9:41 AM
franco12 wrote:
Dagger wrote:
franco12 wrote:i thought jackson might help with class. maybe not.

The only lack of class I see here is on woodson's part. There's nothing in his contract that says the team has to fire him immediately after the last game if they are thinking of letting him go.

Really? Maybe you guys have never been fire before?

This firing has been hanging over his head since mid season. Lets let the man move on.

He would have been part of the exit interviews- but wasn't- so clearly, a decision has been made about his status. Why drag it out?

Its not necessary and its no fun to live under the gun.

I think its the decent thing to do, and if he is being fired- better to let him know through his agent like he asked, than to pretend you're having a meeting with someone who is just going to axe you!

I think Phil asking to meet with him is the decent thing to do, the Knicks have contacted Woody. As Clean said, Woody is being stubborn and giving orders to his boss which is not politically correct at all in a professional atmosphere. If Woody were so worried about getting fired he could always resign. The only gun on Woody is the one he's planted against his own head with his abysmal coaching this season and recent disappearing act.

CrushAlot @ 4/19/2014 10:02 AM
franco12 wrote:
Dagger wrote:
franco12 wrote:i thought jackson might help with class. maybe not.

The only lack of class I see here is on woodson's part. There's nothing in his contract that says the team has to fire him immediately after the last game if they are thinking of letting him go.

Really? Maybe you guys have never been fire before?

This firing has been hanging over his head since mid season. Lets let the man move on.

He would have been part of the exit interviews- but wasn't- so clearly, a decision has been made about his status. Why drag it out?

Its not necessary and its no fun to live under the gun.

I think its the decent thing to do, and if he is being fired- better to let him know through his agent like he asked, than to pretend you're having a meeting with someone who is just going to axe you!


This. +1.
TeamBall @ 4/19/2014 10:46 AM
franco12 wrote:
Dagger wrote:
franco12 wrote:i thought jackson might help with class. maybe not.

The only lack of class I see here is on woodson's part. There's nothing in his contract that says the team has to fire him immediately after the last game if they are thinking of letting him go.

Really? Maybe you guys have never been fire before?

This firing has been hanging over his head since mid season. Lets let the man move on.

He would have been part of the exit interviews- but wasn't- so clearly, a decision has been made about his status. Why drag it out?

Its not necessary and its no fun to live under the gun.

I think its the decent thing to do, and if he is being fired- better to let him know through his agent like he asked, than to pretend you're having a meeting with someone who is just going to axe you!


Agree with this. If you're gonna fire the man just do it and let him move on.
gunsnewing @ 4/19/2014 11:04 AM
This is Woodsons fault. He could've resigned before the Allstar break but he is too dilusional. If anything he should be grateful the Knicks gave him a chance to turn it around. He didn't turn things around until game 60 something. And he kept using the injury card. You don't see the bulls Nyets and heat constantly use injuries as an excuse. We would've been better off canning him at the break and inserting an interim. We might've made the playoffs and a avoided handing Orlando our lottery pick. The team would've been revitalized with a new voice in the huddle. This year was beyond stupid
Bonn1997 @ 4/19/2014 11:06 AM
Why would he resign?! Lose money and go out on a low point?
gunsnewing @ 4/19/2014 11:09 AM
At least Dantoni had the deciency to resign after realizing the team had tuned him out.

He could've still gotten paid Bonn. Dolan did not want more blood on his hands firing another coach midseason but if Woodson had "resigned" it would've been less painful for everybody

CrushAlot @ 4/19/2014 12:17 PM
gunsnewing wrote:At least Dantoni had the deciency to resign after realizing the team had tuned him out.

He could've still gotten paid Bonn. Dolan did not want more blood on his hands firing another coach midseason but if Woodson had "resigned" it would've been less painful for everybody


Dantoni's deal was done at the end of the season. He got paid the entire amount of his contract. Woodson had another year and if he resigns he gives that up. Big difference in my opinion.
gunsnewing @ 4/19/2014 12:33 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:At least Dantoni had the deciency to resign after realizing the team had tuned him out.

He could've still gotten paid Bonn. Dolan did not want more blood on his hands firing another coach midseason but if Woodson had "resigned" it would've been less painful for everybody


Dantoni's deal was done at the end of the season. He got paid the entire amount of his contract. Woodson had another year and if he resigns he gives that up. Big difference in my opinion.

True. If I'm Woodson I just meet with phill take the millions and run drama free but that's just me

Dagger @ 4/19/2014 12:57 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Why would he resign?! Lose money and go out on a low point?

He won't resign because he doesn't want to lose the money, but as long as that option is on the table for him he's not a victim in any way shape or form. All of us are victims of his incompetence this season. So he has to wait a few days to hear he's going to be fired, what's the rush, it's not like he has potential suitors lining up so he has to know right away... I don't care if Woodson is uncomfortable for a few days, he's made it uncomfortable to be a Knicks fan this entire season.

Besides, he's the one prolonging this whole thing, not Phil. If he just met with the man he would have his answer, but he's developed some kind of bizarre martyr complex.

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