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holfresh wrote:Uptown wrote:Over the last decade and a half, The Knicks have been the poster child for front-office and head coaching turmoil. I still shake my head when I think about Chaney being escorted out the garden by the police....The hiring of Phil Jackson is supposed to be a sign that the Knicks finally get it. That we are finally on the right path and things are about to take a turn for the best. If recent reports about MJax are true, hiring him will be a signal that things around hasn't changed much at all...Not to be an advocate to hire Jackson but how does his hiring mean there will be turmoil in the front office or if Doc Rivers become available then he isn't an option either??..It's Kerr or no one else???..Well I hope we get him....
Who said Kerr and no on else? I'm just not an advocate of hiring Jackson especially if all of the reports coming out of Oakland are true. Hiring Doc, however, would be another sign that we are serious about building a championship organization....Phil and Doc both have a championship pedigree and both exhibit a championship attitude. I think Doc did a great in the face of turmoil surrouding his team....If available we need to snatch him up immediately....
Uptown wrote:holfresh wrote:Uptown wrote:Over the last decade and a half, The Knicks have been the poster child for front-office and head coaching turmoil. I still shake my head when I think about Chaney being escorted out the garden by the police....The hiring of Phil Jackson is supposed to be a sign that the Knicks finally get it. That we are finally on the right path and things are about to take a turn for the best. If recent reports about MJax are true, hiring him will be a signal that things around hasn't changed much at all...Not to be an advocate to hire Jackson but how does his hiring mean there will be turmoil in the front office or if Doc Rivers become available then he isn't an option either??..It's Kerr or no one else???..Well I hope we get him....
Who said Kerr and no on else? I'm just not an advocate of hiring Jackson especially if all of the reports coming out of Oakland are true. Hiring Doc, however, would be another sign that we are serious about building a championship organization....Phil and Doc both have a championship pedigree and both exhibit a championship attitude. I think Doc did a great in the face of turmoil surrouding his team....If available we need to snatch him up immediately....
Doc is a great coach but I would be nervous about the pairing. 2 big ego's and 2 very talented basketball people.
I am more comfortable with a Riley / Spolestra type of relationship.
Sometimes its better to have only one alpha male.
What if Doc does not like Phil's micro managing or some of his ideas? Then, you would have dissension.
If he brought in Kerr or Fisher then they would be his to mold.
Bill Russell as big man coach
mreinman wrote:Uptown wrote:holfresh wrote:Uptown wrote:Over the last decade and a half, The Knicks have been the poster child for front-office and head coaching turmoil. I still shake my head when I think about Chaney being escorted out the garden by the police....The hiring of Phil Jackson is supposed to be a sign that the Knicks finally get it. That we are finally on the right path and things are about to take a turn for the best. If recent reports about MJax are true, hiring him will be a signal that things around hasn't changed much at all...Not to be an advocate to hire Jackson but how does his hiring mean there will be turmoil in the front office or if Doc Rivers become available then he isn't an option either??..It's Kerr or no one else???..Well I hope we get him....
Who said Kerr and no on else? I'm just not an advocate of hiring Jackson especially if all of the reports coming out of Oakland are true. Hiring Doc, however, would be another sign that we are serious about building a championship organization....Phil and Doc both have a championship pedigree and both exhibit a championship attitude. I think Doc did a great in the face of turmoil surrouding his team....If available we need to snatch him up immediately....
Doc is a great coach but I would be nervous about the pairing. 2 big ego's and 2 very talented basketball people.
I am more comfortable with a Riley / Spolestra type of relationship.
Sometimes its better to have only one alpha male.
What if Doc does not like Phil's micro managing or some of his ideas? Then, you would have dissension.
If he brought in Kerr or Fisher then they would be his to mold.
I see what you are saying about molding the young coach, but if Doc's available, you have to do your due diligence. I'm sure the feeling out process will take place during the interview and if Phil finds that Doc is someone who won't listen and is set in his ways, then so be it....move on to the next candidate (Kerr, Fisher and who ever else.) All I'm saying is you have at least talk to Doc and see if it can work. There are only a handful of coaches that have rings in the league and he's one of them...
Uptown wrote:mreinman wrote:Uptown wrote:holfresh wrote:Uptown wrote:Over the last decade and a half, The Knicks have been the poster child for front-office and head coaching turmoil. I still shake my head when I think about Chaney being escorted out the garden by the police....The hiring of Phil Jackson is supposed to be a sign that the Knicks finally get it. That we are finally on the right path and things are about to take a turn for the best. If recent reports about MJax are true, hiring him will be a signal that things around hasn't changed much at all...Not to be an advocate to hire Jackson but how does his hiring mean there will be turmoil in the front office or if Doc Rivers become available then he isn't an option either??..It's Kerr or no one else???..Well I hope we get him....
Who said Kerr and no on else? I'm just not an advocate of hiring Jackson especially if all of the reports coming out of Oakland are true. Hiring Doc, however, would be another sign that we are serious about building a championship organization....Phil and Doc both have a championship pedigree and both exhibit a championship attitude. I think Doc did a great in the face of turmoil surrouding his team....If available we need to snatch him up immediately....
Doc is a great coach but I would be nervous about the pairing. 2 big ego's and 2 very talented basketball people.
I am more comfortable with a Riley / Spolestra type of relationship.
Sometimes its better to have only one alpha male.
What if Doc does not like Phil's micro managing or some of his ideas? Then, you would have dissension.
If he brought in Kerr or Fisher then they would be his to mold.
I see what you are saying about molding the young coach, but if Doc's available, you have to do your due diligence. I'm sure the feeling out process will take place during the interview and if Phil finds that Doc is someone who won't listen and is set in his ways, then so be it....move on to the next candidate (Kerr, Fisher and who ever else.) All I'm saying is you have at least talk to Doc and see if it can work. There are only a handful of coaches that have rings in the league and he's one of them...
That is exactly the problem. He has won with his system and style (and some great great players). He will not want Jackson telling him what to do.
If we did not just hire jackson, I would be super excited for Doc to be our coach. I loved him as a knick too.
Doc working for Phil is almost a guaranteed clash and a marriage to end in an ugly failure.
I mangage an IT group and I personally find that there is nothing like molding your own people and they are the most loyal in the long run. Experienced people who are good come with ego's and are much harder to manage and have cohesion.
mreinman wrote:Uptown wrote:mreinman wrote:Uptown wrote:holfresh wrote:Uptown wrote:Over the last decade and a half, The Knicks have been the poster child for front-office and head coaching turmoil. I still shake my head when I think about Chaney being escorted out the garden by the police....The hiring of Phil Jackson is supposed to be a sign that the Knicks finally get it. That we are finally on the right path and things are about to take a turn for the best. If recent reports about MJax are true, hiring him will be a signal that things around hasn't changed much at all...Not to be an advocate to hire Jackson but how does his hiring mean there will be turmoil in the front office or if Doc Rivers become available then he isn't an option either??..It's Kerr or no one else???..Well I hope we get him....
Who said Kerr and no on else? I'm just not an advocate of hiring Jackson especially if all of the reports coming out of Oakland are true. Hiring Doc, however, would be another sign that we are serious about building a championship organization....Phil and Doc both have a championship pedigree and both exhibit a championship attitude. I think Doc did a great in the face of turmoil surrouding his team....If available we need to snatch him up immediately....
Doc is a great coach but I would be nervous about the pairing. 2 big ego's and 2 very talented basketball people.
I am more comfortable with a Riley / Spolestra type of relationship.
Sometimes its better to have only one alpha male.
What if Doc does not like Phil's micro managing or some of his ideas? Then, you would have dissension.
If he brought in Kerr or Fisher then they would be his to mold.
I see what you are saying about molding the young coach, but if Doc's available, you have to do your due diligence. I'm sure the feeling out process will take place during the interview and if Phil finds that Doc is someone who won't listen and is set in his ways, then so be it....move on to the next candidate (Kerr, Fisher and who ever else.) All I'm saying is you have at least talk to Doc and see if it can work. There are only a handful of coaches that have rings in the league and he's one of them...
That is exactly the problem. He has won with his system and style (and some great great players). He will not want Jackson telling him what to do.
If we did not just hire jackson, I would be super excited for Doc to be our coach. I loved him as a knick too.
Doc working for Phil is almost a guaranteed clash and a marriage to end in an ugly failure.
I mangage an IT group and I personally find that there is nothing like molding your own people and they are the most loyal in the long run. Experienced people who are good come with ego's and are much harder to manage and have cohesion.
without hijacking the thread.. you manage an IT group? i do work in IT. what do you oversee?
nyk4ever wrote:mreinman wrote:Uptown wrote:mreinman wrote:Uptown wrote:holfresh wrote:Uptown wrote:Over the last decade and a half, The Knicks have been the poster child for front-office and head coaching turmoil. I still shake my head when I think about Chaney being escorted out the garden by the police....The hiring of Phil Jackson is supposed to be a sign that the Knicks finally get it. That we are finally on the right path and things are about to take a turn for the best. If recent reports about MJax are true, hiring him will be a signal that things around hasn't changed much at all...Not to be an advocate to hire Jackson but how does his hiring mean there will be turmoil in the front office or if Doc Rivers become available then he isn't an option either??..It's Kerr or no one else???..Well I hope we get him....
Who said Kerr and no on else? I'm just not an advocate of hiring Jackson especially if all of the reports coming out of Oakland are true. Hiring Doc, however, would be another sign that we are serious about building a championship organization....Phil and Doc both have a championship pedigree and both exhibit a championship attitude. I think Doc did a great in the face of turmoil surrouding his team....If available we need to snatch him up immediately....
Doc is a great coach but I would be nervous about the pairing. 2 big ego's and 2 very talented basketball people.
I am more comfortable with a Riley / Spolestra type of relationship.
Sometimes its better to have only one alpha male.
What if Doc does not like Phil's micro managing or some of his ideas? Then, you would have dissension.
If he brought in Kerr or Fisher then they would be his to mold.
I see what you are saying about molding the young coach, but if Doc's available, you have to do your due diligence. I'm sure the feeling out process will take place during the interview and if Phil finds that Doc is someone who won't listen and is set in his ways, then so be it....move on to the next candidate (Kerr, Fisher and who ever else.) All I'm saying is you have at least talk to Doc and see if it can work. There are only a handful of coaches that have rings in the league and he's one of them...
That is exactly the problem. He has won with his system and style (and some great great players). He will not want Jackson telling him what to do.
If we did not just hire jackson, I would be super excited for Doc to be our coach. I loved him as a knick too.
Doc working for Phil is almost a guaranteed clash and a marriage to end in an ugly failure.
I mangage an IT group and I personally find that there is nothing like molding your own people and they are the most loyal in the long run. Experienced people who are good come with ego's and are much harder to manage and have cohesion.
without hijacking the thread.. you manage an IT group? i do work in IT. what do you oversee?
We build niche (don't want to really elaborate on the niche because that will give away who I work for) applications for most fortune 100 companies. Mostly Java, DB, Linux and a bunch of proprietary stuff ... Our company has many patents and they have cornered this particular market.
What do you do?
Who died and made Steve Kerr a savior?
But Phil anointed him savior.
The coaching fraternity looks after its own. PJ got a raw deal a few times.
If the choice isn't clear between the Knicks and GS for little Stevie Wonder, it's time for our real pResident saviour to move on.
Kerr to make his choiceWednesdayThursdayEnd of this WeekMondaySomeday Soon.
Only women can spend days looking at a menu.
The rest of us order steak and get to work. And we all know how much work there is to do here.
His daughter goes to school at cal-Berkely, just around teh corner. She'd be like the most like popular like girl in the school, right?
Hey, family pulls at the heart. My daughter is away at school only 3 hours away by car, its nice! My son lives an hour away. I get it.
Nalod wrote:Sometimes nobody dies.......But Phil anointed him savior.
The coaching fraternity looks after its own. PJ got a raw deal a few times.
?
Because Phil wants him to be the coach that means Phil anointed him savior? Maybe he just wants him to be the coach.
TeamBall wrote:Nalod wrote:Sometimes nobody dies.......But Phil anointed him savior.
The coaching fraternity looks after its own. PJ got a raw deal a few times.
?
Because Phil wants him to be the coach that means Phil anointed him savior? Maybe he just wants him to be the coach.
PJ Carlissimo: "Mark Jackson got a raw deal. The Warriors created their own problems."
Who died and made Steve Kerr a savior?
was answering an earlier post.
BTW, knicks don't appoint saviors, Knick fans elevate them into that status!
Nalod wrote:TeamBall wrote:Nalod wrote:Sometimes nobody dies.......But Phil anointed him savior.
The coaching fraternity looks after its own. PJ got a raw deal a few times.
?
Because Phil wants him to be the coach that means Phil anointed him savior? Maybe he just wants him to be the coach.PJ Carlissimo: "Mark Jackson got a raw deal. The Warriors created their own problems."
Who died and made Steve Kerr a savior?was answering an earlier post.
BTW, knicks don't appoint saviors, Knick fans elevate them into that status!
Baron Davis agrees with that last sentence
if the knicks decide to retain anthiny's services then really they are going to be forced to bring in doc rivers who is one of the few coaches that anthiny will perhaps obey.
it would be so much easier if we simply got rid of anthiny and started from scratch.
dk7th wrote:hiring which coach will really be incumbent on what jackson decides to do with anthiny. anthiny will not be able to subsume his ego with kerr and this will be waste of everyone's time.if the knicks decide to retain anthiny's services then really they are going to be forced to bring in doc rivers who is one of the few coaches that anthiny will perhaps obey.
it would be so much easier if we simply got rid of anthiny and started from scratch.
We wouldn't have expected any less from you!
BTW, you know that Melo would be subservent to Doc Rivers? Hire the coach, ask melo if its a negative or positive but understand Melo gonna do what Melo gonna do.
jrodmc wrote:
Only women can spend days looking at a menu.The rest of us order steak and get to work.
What, are you posting on these boards from the 1950s?!