holfresh wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:This guy has been on a downhill spiral since Sloan retired...
He says he is a system player and not an ISO centric player..It's what got Avery Johnson fired...
“I’ve really had injuries I’ve been dealing with the whole time,” Williams said. “I didn’t have the talent around me I did there. Their system was a great system for my style of play. I am a system player. I loved coach (Jerry) Sloan’s system there, I loved the offense there.”
“I grew up in high school, my coach wasn’t one of those guys who would just throw out the ball and let us play,” Williams said. “We were a system team. We had a staple of plays that we relied on. We were good at execution. In college (at Illinois), we ran the motion offense. A lot of cutting, a lot passing, a lot of screening, a lot of extra passes. I’m used to just movement. So I’m still trying to adjust. It’s been an adjustment for me.”
This quote was from December, 2012! WHat about him under Kidd??
He is contemplating surgery in the off season and thats never a good time to ask for a trade!
IM sure some of you would love this all to be true but there is a lot of "Source" to this.
He looked good in some parts of the game but like the rest of the Nets he got stymied against Miami in crunch time!
I remember D'Antoni wanted the Knicks to do a straight up Deron for Melo swap. That guy was an awful coach in NYC.
mreinman wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:mreinman wrote:I sure hope we don't start seeing Amare for Dwil posts.
LOl So what do you gys think about STAT, Felton and our 2015 first-rounder for D-Will and second rounder.
NarDog is typing it up as we speak 
He beat me to the punch but I love where he's going with this, lol.
Nalod wrote:holfresh wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:This guy has been on a downhill spiral since Sloan retired...
He says he is a system player and not an ISO centric player..It's what got Avery Johnson fired...
“I’ve really had injuries I’ve been dealing with the whole time,” Williams said. “I didn’t have the talent around me I did there. Their system was a great system for my style of play. I am a system player. I loved coach (Jerry) Sloan’s system there, I loved the offense there.”
“I grew up in high school, my coach wasn’t one of those guys who would just throw out the ball and let us play,” Williams said. “We were a system team. We had a staple of plays that we relied on. We were good at execution. In college (at Illinois), we ran the motion offense. A lot of cutting, a lot passing, a lot of screening, a lot of extra passes. I’m used to just movement. So I’m still trying to adjust. It’s been an adjustment for me.”
This quote was from December, 2012! WHat about him under Kidd??
He is contemplating surgery in the off season and thats never a good time to ask for a trade!
IM sure some of you would love this all to be true but there is a lot of "Source" to this.
He looked good in some parts of the game but like the rest of the Nets he got stymied against Miami in crunch time!
Yeah it's an old quote..Maybe he is a just system guy..
BigDaddyG wrote:nyk4ever wrote:the nerve of this guy to do this? his ankles are in worse condition than a 90yr old, he got sloan fired, and went 1-12 in the 4th quarter of an elimination game the other day. stay as far away from this guy as possible.
You could make decent sized list of PGs who sucked after Sloan stopped coaching them.
Howard Eisley never forget.
it sucks that he has 4 years 18 million per, but chandler and felton for him would be great...i'm down on felton and feel that we still have the expiring of amare and bargs expiring for a max free agent.
We upgrade at the point, we resign melo.
Not sure that Williams ever wanted to be a net. He stood to lose 30 mil if he left for dallas. King made some moves to make the team more attractive and he resigned. I don't think Williams had any idea he would be traded.
Bargs and Felton for Deron and Teletovic
93BUICK wrote:Bargs and Felton for Deron and Teletovic
Having max salary cap space would be much better than that. Deron's a major liability at that salary.
Bonn1997 wrote:93BUICK wrote:Bargs and Felton for Deron and Teletovic
Having max salary cap space would be much better than that. Deron's a major liability at that salary.
Agree. Also, not sure what would make him happy. Does he want out of nyc or just Brooklyn? The Nets have done a lot to accommodate him. Even hiring Kidd, a guy Deron is supposed to be very close to, could be seen as a make DWill happy move. Too much of an injury concern and he is owed too much money. It will be interesting to see what King does with the cap/roster issues he has created. I read this morning that Blathce is going to explore free agency. I know the Nets want Livingston back but he may get better offers and there isn't anything the Nets can do if he does.
I don't think DWill is a guy the knicks should go after but this trade works on trade checker: Williams, Plumlee, Teague for Felton, Tyson and Prigs.
CrushAlot wrote:I don't think DWill is a guy the knicks should go after but this trade works on trade checker: Williams, Plumlee, Teague for Felton, Tyson and Prigs.
I would gather they want picks and cap space since they have non so it would have to be a 3 team deal if it involved the Knicks.
Give him a jar of Vasoline and Starbury's private mobile number. They can fix up them ankles.
Good riddance deron, you are on the downside of your career anyway. although he can help the rockets, it would be a good trade.. bring Lin back to NY, I would not mind seeing him on the nets...
NYKBocker wrote:Linsanity 2.0!!!!
oooh I hope not. It'd be a shame to have to actively root against the kid...
We could trade Tyson Chandler and Amare to Dallas for Samuel Dalembert and two trade exceptions totaling $32 million. With the exception for Amare's contract, we could send to Brooklyn for Williams in a salary dump; no assets.
NardDogNation wrote:We could trade Tyson Chandler and Amare to Dallas for Samuel Dalembert and two trade exceptions totaling $32 million. With the exception for Amare's contract, we could send to Brooklyn for Williams in a salary dump; no assets.
I know Cuban wants Tyson back, but is he that stupid? And I thought the key to this whole deal was getting rid of Tyson AND Felton?
Exactly. Our primary team goals in order:
1. Resign melo
2. Trade Felton
3. Keep cap flexibility for 2015 summer
4. Make the playoffs
holfresh wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:This guy has been on a downhill spiral since Sloan retired...
He says he is a system player and not an ISO centric player..It's what got Avery Johnson fired...
“I’ve really had injuries I’ve been dealing with the whole time,” Williams said. “I didn’t have the talent around me I did there. Their system was a great system for my style of play. I am a system player. I loved coach (Jerry) Sloan’s system there, I loved the offense there.”
“I grew up in high school, my coach wasn’t one of those guys who would just throw out the ball and let us play,” Williams said. “We were a system team. We had a staple of plays that we relied on. We were good at execution. In college (at Illinois), we ran the motion offense. A lot of cutting, a lot passing, a lot of screening, a lot of extra passes. I’m used to just movement. So I’m still trying to adjust. It’s been an adjustment for me.”
I am a system player. I loved coach (Jerry) Sloan’s system there, I loved the offense there.”
Sloane must be rolling on the floor , laughing


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