this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.
it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.
I'm not of the belief anyone deserves anything except people who've won.
Nothing suggests ewing is a coach let alone head coach material...I'd rather have what a proven winner feels they need.
He deserves a shot simply because he's a Knicks legend? Sorry but no he has been an assistant for many many years and has never been given a shot by any team. Why is that? In my opinion it says A LOT, aka he hasn't impressed anyone enough to be hired as head coach. I don't think it's a coincidence. Occam's razor, and all that. Ya know?
Amazed that people continue to take IWG seriously
Cracks me up every time
Papabear Says
The knicks are known to throw their stars under the bus. I asked the question over a month ago and I was told he don't know how to talk. Well with Phil Jackson's new role he better learn how to talk as a GM. I can see why some coaches won't come to New York. Ewing should have an interview. We don't know what he can do as a coach. Give the man a chance.
if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.
he never adds anything to this site.. kind of like that annoying mosquito
knickscity wrote:if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.
The ones who Phil Jackson is bringing in never coached a day in their life so don't go there. Patrick Ewing brought many good times to New York. Give the man some credit.
IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.
he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.
his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?
dk7th wrote:IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.
he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
B
but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.
his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?
Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.
Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.
Papabear wrote:knickscity wrote:if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.
The ones who Phil Jackson is bringing in never coached a day in their life so don't go there. Patrick Ewing brought many good times to New York. Give the man some credit.
His career as a player shouldnt be the basis of having him as coach of the team. Phil is hiring the one to carry out his vision.
knickscity wrote:Papabear wrote:knickscity wrote:if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.
The ones who Phil Jackson is bringing in never coached a day in their life so don't go there. Patrick Ewing brought many good times to New York. Give the man some credit.
His career as a player shouldnt be the basis of having him as coach of the team. Phil is hiring the one to carry out his vision.
i think it can be a basis. ewing was always a strong leader and leadership is so important in a head coach, because that's what a coach does--- he leads.
ewing has a good heart a good mind and a strong demeanor. why not give him a shot? why only derek fisher??
CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.
he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
B
but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.
his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?
Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.
Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.
it can't be that smart if he is still working for another coach. he isn't head coaching material or he would have been hired as a head coach by now. head coaches have to possess certain skills and attributes.
dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.
he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
B
but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.
his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?
Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.
Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.
it can't be that smart if he is still working for another coach. he isn't head coaching material or he would have been hired as a head coach by now. head coaches have to possess certain skills and attributes.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching...
CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.
he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
B
but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.
his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?
Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.
Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.
it can't be that smart if he is still working for another coach. he isn't head coaching material or he would have been hired as a head coach by now. head coaches have to possess certain skills and attributes.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching...
if he hasn't been offered a head coaching job by now then he doesn't have the chops to be a head coach. no shame in that it just is what it is. people need to suspend their sentimentality.
dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.
he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
B
but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.
his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?
Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.
Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.
it can't be that smart if he is still working for another coach. he isn't head coaching material or he would have been hired as a head coach by now. head coaches have to possess certain skills and attributes.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching...
if he hasn't been offered a head coaching job by now then he doesn't have the chops to be a head coach. no shame in that it just is what it is. people need to suspend their sentimentality.
Not sure about Pat. My point is he is better off being an associate head coach working with a guy he coached with in Orlando and Houston then running the bay hawks. The Knicks weren't invested in the bay hawks and the d league isn't a path for future nba head coaches so far.
IronWillGiroud wrote:knickscity wrote:Papabear wrote:knickscity wrote:if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.
The ones who Phil Jackson is bringing in never coached a day in their life so don't go there. Patrick Ewing brought many good times to New York. Give the man some credit.
His career as a player shouldnt be the basis of having him as coach of the team. Phil is hiring the one to carry out his vision.
i think it can be a basis. ewing was always a strong leader and leadership is so important in a head coach, because that's what a coach does--- he leads.
ewing has a good heart a good mind and a strong demeanor. why not give him a shot? why only derek fisher??
The better question is why us? why not all the other teams he's been an assistant for....why didnt they offer him a job?
I can fully understand Fisher from Phil's perspective.....he wants to run the triangle and he wants a coach who can be an extension of him.
knickscity wrote:Papabear wrote:knickscity wrote:if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.
The ones who Phil Jackson is bringing in never coached a day in their life so don't go there. Patrick Ewing brought many good times to New York. Give the man some credit.
His career as a player shouldnt be the basis of having him as coach of the team. Phil is hiring the one to carry out his vision.
Papabear Says
Man when are you going to get it!!!! Phils vision is Michael Jordan, Scotie Pipen, Shaq, and Kobe none of which we have and when he didn't have one of them he won nothing.
We do not have a Kobe , Shaq or Jordan. So whats nexts ?? Man until we get the best player in the game we will win nothing with the triangle, rectangle , or angle. We can be a good team thats it. Give Phil 2 years here and you guys will be calling for his head.
CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.
he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
B
but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.
his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?
Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.
Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.
it can't be that smart if he is still working for another coach. he isn't head coaching material or he would have been hired as a head coach by now. head coaches have to possess certain skills and attributes.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching...
if he hasn't been offered a head coaching job by now then he doesn't have the chops to be a head coach. no shame in that it just is what it is. people need to suspend their sentimentality.
Not sure about Pat. My point is he is better off being an associate head coach working with a guy he coached with in Orlando and Houston then running the bay hawks. The Knicks weren't invested in the bay hawks and the d league isn't a path for future nba head coaches so far.
Wow, the fact that Bob Thornton was a head coach at any level is truly scary.
IWG not sure why we not targeting Ewing?, IWG not reading the posts thru the years of this ongoing discussion.
BTW, only because he was who he was is not the qualification to hire him as head coach. Just because fans loved him 20 years ago is not a qualification for him to lead this team. Im sure many of you would be very happy but thats a nice thought, a "feel good" hire that lasts as long until he actually succeeds with his team.
There is no corelation between what he did on the court and how he would be as a head coach. We have seen many players succeed, and many were role players. We have seen few "stars" rise to be great head coach's. Ewing might be the greatest coach in the making, but there has not been any evidence to that effect to warrent a starphuch hiring.
Not saying he'd be horrible, but if we are just hiring a decent coach your hiring him on name mostly.
Bobcats had an opening for head coach and went with Steve Clifford and hired Ewing as Assistant. Jordan is his buddy and if he was ever to get a head gig I think this was a great chance for him, but it never happend.
He was given a chance to be head coach of our D-league team and turned it down. I think it was done out of respect and he might have been told its not a prerequisite to the knicks job as it won't happen. As it were, I doubt last season he would have been that much more successful than Woodson and with PHil coming in and wanting to install his system with his people, it would be awkward to fire him.
These are my opinions on all the stuff I have read.
