knicks1248 wrote:Was Dolan at the press conference?
No Derek and Dolan have not even spoken yet which shows this is all Phil
djsunyc wrote:knicks doled out $85 mil for a first time gm and a first time coach. only the knicks.5 years $25 mil...just more execs trying to prove how smart they are. meanwhile guys really paying dues can't catch a break. i wonder what doc rivers would've said if he constantly pushed for thibs to be a head coach only to not get the opportunity b/c guys like kerr and fisher get the job instead. outside of doc and mark...any other player to coach success stories in the past 20/30 years?
Fish and Jax have 18 rings between them and they seem to think they can make this work. Not my money but I think it was a smart hire. There needs to be chemistry between the coach and gm and the Knicks have that. Also, a lot of assistants got head jobs last year. Kidd, Fisher and Kerr are just three guys. I think Fisher might be the best of the bunch. The guy was an incredible winner, a leader and he was a role player.
He said he looks forward to speaking to Dolan and getting to know him on a PERSONAL Level
I like how Fisher spoke of learning from the failures as much as the successes. Sounds like a he will make a good teacher.
gunsnewing wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Was Dolan at the press conference?
No Derek and Dolan have not even spoken yet which shows this is all Phil
Don't forget my boy Steve Mills
93BUICK wrote:djsunyc wrote:the constant comments about how well spoken he is by announcers/reporters sound borderline racist.
Yep.
I think it's really more of a result of listening to an intelligent coach speak for a change as opposed to Woodson's bumbling and mumbling stupidity.
djsunyc wrote:knicks doled out $85 mil for a first time gm and a first time coach. only the knicks.5 years $25 mil...just more execs trying to prove how smart they are. meanwhile guys really paying dues can't catch a break. i wonder what doc rivers would've said if he constantly pushed for thibs to be a head coach only to not get the opportunity b/c guys like kerr and fisher get the job instead. outside of doc and mark...any other player to coach success stories in the past 20/30 years?
Knicks is also the only team that had #1 payroll and didn't even make the playoffs I think. So on the positive side, Knicks has gotten a lot of records lately.
I think Fisher will be worth the pay if he can learn from Phil coaching guidance and make into his own. However, I don't see Fisher working well with Anthony or Amar'e, and the Knicks should try to get Durant to play for the Knicks given Fisher's relationship with him in the next 2 years. Hopefully this will be an investment bigger than the 'outrageous' pay.
gunsnewing wrote:He said he looks forward to speaking to Dolan and getting to know him on a PERSONAL Level
Oh god, he better not... Jimmy's gonna jinx this. Just write the checks and disappear plz.
Rookie wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knowing Phil everytime the media asks about Melo the less he wants him back. It's not all about Melo!It's never about any one player
Unless it's Jordan, Kobe or shaq
hahahaha....rings talk the loudest. Don't think Melo's lack of playoff success will help him in any conversations that over estimate his value with Phil.
To add to that. Fisher response to the media constantly asking him how will he CONVINCE Carmelo to stay. He said CONVINCE is not the proper word. It's more about proving to him that their plan will work.
You see this is one of the many reasons I'm ready to move on from Melo
I'm sick of
Melo
Melo
Melo
Melo this
Melo that
Melo doesn't approve
Melo is not happy
Melo's people
Melo's underwear
It's never about one player
I've had it!
Fisher reminds me of when Doc first coached. Well spoken, stern, charismatic & confident. This is how it's gonna be. Get on board!
gunsnewing wrote:Rookie wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knowing Phil everytime the media asks about Melo the less he wants him back. It's not all about Melo!It's never about any one player
Unless it's Jordan, Kobe or shaq
hahahaha....rings talk the loudest. Don't think Melo's lack of playoff success will help him in any conversations that over estimate his value with Phil.
To add to that. Fisher response to the media constantly asking him how will he CONVINCE Carmelo to stay. He said CONVINCE is not the proper word. It's more about proving to him that their plan will work.
You see this is one of the many reasons I'm ready to move on from Melo
I'm sick of
Melo
Melo
Melo
Melo this
Melo that
Melo doesn't approve
Melo is not happy
Melo's people
Melo's underwear
I've had it!
I feel the same way sometimes, but like that lame asS woodson would say "HE'S A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF WINNING BASKETBALL GAMES"
And like Phil said, you need a guy when who can get you points when the offense isn't clicking and the game becomes a drag. The good thing about it is the ball won't stick, and he'll be taking much better shots, as well as JR..
I think what impress me most about fisher is the fact that he played 17 years in the NBA without being great at anything. His career stats are head scratching when you look at the amount of yrs he played
PPG APG SPG 3P% FT%
5.2 1.4 0.9 .384 .775
nyk4ever wrote:sounds like phil is bringing in rambis, cartright and possibly luke walton as the assistants. im pumped!
Luke Walton? isn't that kind of random?
gunsnewing wrote:Rookie wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knowing Phil everytime the media asks about Melo the less he wants him back. It's not all about Melo!It's never about any one player
Unless it's Jordan, Kobe or shaq
hahahaha....rings talk the loudest. Don't think Melo's lack of playoff success will help him in any conversations that over estimate his value with Phil.
To add to that. Fisher response to the media constantly asking him how will he CONVINCE Carmelo to stay. He said CONVINCE is not the proper word. It's more about proving to him that their plan will work.
You see this is one of the many reasons I'm ready to move on from Melo
I'm sick of
Melo
Melo
Melo
Melo this
Melo that
Melo doesn't approve
Melo is not happy
Melo's people
Melo's underwear
I've had it!
aw.. do you miss the who's better? Gallo vs. Will Chandler threads in the middle of 30 win seasons? Winning again will help... cures all.
Syniko wrote:nyk4ever wrote:sounds like phil is bringing in rambis, cartright and possibly luke walton as the assistants. im pumped!
Luke Walton? isn't that kind of random?
Luke has been mentioned a ton by Phil himself, books, interviews, etc.
gunsnewing wrote:Rookie wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knowing Phil everytime the media asks about Melo the less he wants him back. It's not all about Melo!It's never about any one player
Unless it's Jordan, Kobe or shaq
hahahaha....rings talk the loudest. Don't think Melo's lack of playoff success will help him in any conversations that over estimate his value with Phil.
To add to that. Fisher response to the media constantly asking him how will he CONVINCE Carmelo to stay. He said CONVINCE is not the proper word. It's more about proving to him that their plan will work.
You see this is one of the many reasons I'm ready to move on from Melo
I'm sick of
Melo
Melo
Melo
Melo this
Melo that
Melo doesn't approve
Melo is not happy
Melo's people
Melo's underwear
It's never about one player
I've had it!
That's just the media. 99% of the time their questions are gonna be focused on the team's best player, especially when he's on the cusp of leaving via free agency.
I was actually sick of all the Lin questions during his time and the fact that they had one reporter there specifically just to ask questions about Lin no matter who was getting interviewed. That didn't mean I was ready to "move on" from him.
fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Rookie wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knowing Phil everytime the media asks about Melo the less he wants him back. It's not all about Melo!It's never about any one player
Unless it's Jordan, Kobe or shaq
hahahaha....rings talk the loudest. Don't think Melo's lack of playoff success will help him in any conversations that over estimate his value with Phil.
To add to that. Fisher response to the media constantly asking him how will he CONVINCE Carmelo to stay. He said CONVINCE is not the proper word. It's more about proving to him that their plan will work.
You see this is one of the many reasons I'm ready to move on from Melo
I'm sick of
Melo
Melo
Melo
Melo this
Melo that
Melo doesn't approve
Melo is not happy
Melo's people
Melo's underwear
I've had it!
aw.. do you miss the who's better? Gallo vs. Will Chandler threads in the middle of 30 win seasons? Winning again will help... cures all.
+1, but did you really have to ask that, fish? You know what the answer will be. Picks, cap space, yoot, plans, basketball the right way, blah blah blah...
I like how CONVINCE is a bad word but PROVING is okay. Semantics is everything in Zen.
Melo: So WTF is this triangle thing, anyway?
Derek: It's a way of life, Melo, it's not a thing.
Melo: You know, there's an "I" in Iso and Triangle, did you ever notice that?
Derek: It's a thing we do not speak of.
Melo: Well, if you can get some of these other schmoes to hit shots in this new way of life, I'm already convinced.
Derek: Do not be convinced, become one with it, Melo. Do or do not, there is no "convince"...
PJax: Well said, grasshopper, well said.
Playa and the triangle...........
martin wrote:Syniko wrote:nyk4ever wrote:sounds like phil is bringing in rambis, cartright and possibly luke walton as the assistants. im pumped!
Luke Walton? isn't that kind of random?
Luke has been mentioned a ton by Phil himself, books, interviews, etc.
He coached at the D league last year.
