GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
They wont be giving up Noah, just can end that dream now.
GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
Noah played all-star level last season. He's hungry, he's a rebounding and assist-making machine at the 5. Would be a perfect replacement for Tyson. I'd build around him and THjr, with all that cap room coming after next season.
Can't see how Chicago gives him up unless we include Tyson, and then perhaps we can pry Butler or Gibson from them.
The main thing we want in the Melo->Bulls trade are those two picks. They represent an opportunity to add youth and cheap deals, possibly even contributors in such a stacked draft.
CrushAlot wrote:Anji wrote:How did we go from 50 wins to this??? Wow this sucks, 70 plus year old jackson isn't going to be the prez for too long, the knicks don't have forever to rebuild this thing wing with zen.......
+1 check your smugness at the door and resign the only guy on your team that is worth anything.
I would like to retract the 70 plus age on jackson, he is only 68....I don't know, I can see Phil leaving before his 5 years is up as much as staying until he is done with basketball. I don't want to dump our best player and hope Phil can piece it together before he turns 75 or get's bored GM'ing. Come on we have one of the best scorers in the world who loves to post in the elbow area and is a late shot clock shot maker......why let that guy walk when he does the most important job in the Triangle???!!!
knickscity wrote:GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
They wont be giving up Noah, just can end that dream now.
Stranger things have happened. I would be damned impressed if Phil could pull it off.
Moonangie wrote:GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
Noah played all-star level last season. He's hungry, he's a rebounding and assist-making machine at the 5. Would be a perfect replacement for Tyson. I'd build around him and THjr, with all that cap room coming after next season.
Can't see how Chicago gives him up unless we include Tyson, and then perhaps we can pry Butler or Gibson from them.
The main thing we want in the Melo->Bulls trade are those two picks. They represent an opportunity to add youth and cheap deals, possibly even contributors in such a stacked draft.
Take Tyson please! If anyone could get Tyson back to his DPOY level (or close) it would be Thibs. Just wouldn't want any long term crapola coming back with Noah.
GustavBahler wrote:knickscity wrote:GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
They wont be giving up Noah, just can end that dream now.
Stranger things have happened. I would be damned impressed if Phil could pull it off.
If Phil pulls it off I would immediately question if noah's foot is ok after his surgery. Noah is untouchable imo.
GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
Noah is part of the reason Melo has interest in Chicago and has been rumored to be the guy recruiting him (because Rose has refused to do so in the past for players). We can't expect to have Noah available.
The more I think about it especially a sign and trade to bring back Lin, and draft picks. I really don't mind melo walking. I think thjr has super star written all over him. I'd love to see us move jr for a sf as well like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist who has a team option next year. And I think the hornets bit cause jr gives them a good second scorer which they were missing last year...a line up of Lin,thjr,m kg,amare,brags?... Don't want Tyson what so ever... 2015 could look like this... Lin,thjr,kawhi Leonard,Love,Marc gasol...sign amare for vet min,shump off the bench,or switch Lin with dragic... That team could go far even champ.. Also picks from melo s&t and Tyson trade.
Again thjr is going to be a star
GustavBahler wrote:knickscity wrote:GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
They wont be giving up Noah, just can end that dream now.
Stranger things have happened. I would be damned impressed if Phil could pull it off.
really? I think you can count that out. I will argue that noah is a better basketball player than carmelo. The bulls would be nuts to do such a thing...
fitzfarm wrote:Again thjr is going to be a star
can I have some of that stuff you are drinking? 
tkf wrote:GustavBahler wrote:knickscity wrote:GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
They wont be giving up Noah, just can end that dream now.
Stranger things have happened. I would be damned impressed if Phil could pull it off.
really? I think you can count that out. I will argue that noah is a better basketball player than carmelo. The bulls would be nuts to do such a thing...
A perennial DPOY candidate center who racks up triple doubles as an assist machine(aka if one were to create the perfect 5 for today's style of small ball basketball, wouldn't Noah be what comes out of the lab)?
Yeah, not only is he better than Melo by several country miles but id also argue the Bulls wouldn't trade him for anyone who isn't named Lebron, Davis, or Durant. Noah is a helluva player.
fitzfarm wrote:The more I think about it especially a sign and trade to bring back Lin, and draft picks. I really don't mind melo walking. I think thjr has super star written all over him. I'd love to see us move jr for a sf as well like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist who has a team option next year. And I think the hornets bit cause jr gives them a good second scorer which they were missing last year...a line up of Lin,thjr,m kg,amare,brags?... Don't want Tyson what so ever... 2015 could look like this... Lin,thjr,kawhi Leonard,Love,Marc gasol...sign amare for vet min,shump off the bench,or switch Lin with dragic... That team could go far even champ.. Also picks from melo s&t and Tyson trade.
What do you define as a superstar? Because by any conventional definition, THJr doesn't even come close. Beyond that, why would KG forego $12 million to join a lottery team? Why would Minnesota be dumb enough to let Kevin Love walk for nothing? And if we can't get him, why would Marc Gasol join a lottery team? How did Kawhi Leonard magically get onto our team and why would he leave a better team/organization for us? He's going to get paid either way, so why not pick the option with the bigger annual raises? None of what you've said makes sense.
tkf wrote:GustavBahler wrote:knickscity wrote:GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
They wont be giving up Noah, just can end that dream now.
Stranger things have happened. I would be damned impressed if Phil could pull it off.
really? I think you can count that out. I will argue that noah is a better basketball player than carmelo. The bulls would be nuts to do such a thing...
I would argue that you have an all consuming fetish.
H1AND1 wrote:tkf wrote:GustavBahler wrote:knickscity wrote:GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
They wont be giving up Noah, just can end that dream now.
Stranger things have happened. I would be damned impressed if Phil could pull it off.
really? I think you can count that out. I will argue that noah is a better basketball player than carmelo. The bulls would be nuts to do such a thing...
A perennial DPOY candidate center who racks up triple doubles as an assist machine(aka if one were to create the perfect 5 for today's style of small ball basketball, wouldn't Noah be what comes out of the lab)?
Yeah, not only is he better than Melo by several country miles but id also argue the Bulls wouldn't trade him for anyone who isn't named Lebron, Davis, or Durant. Noah is a helluva player.
I can also agree with that. Noah has impressed me over the years, at first I wasn't high on the kid, always respected his motor tho.. but his game has truly transformed and he leads by example. He is a unique player and one as you said you don't trade unless you are getting back a lebron or Durant...
GustavBahler wrote:tkf wrote:GustavBahler wrote:knickscity wrote:GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
They wont be giving up Noah, just can end that dream now.
Stranger things have happened. I would be damned impressed if Phil could pull it off.
really? I think you can count that out. I will argue that noah is a better basketball player than carmelo. The bulls would be nuts to do such a thing...
I would argue that you have an all consuming fetish.
yes I do, I am consumed with good basketball players. I am consumed with watching great ball, I am consumed with getting trash off my team, losers.. yes I have a fetish for greatness.... I have a fetish for players who play hard, with integrity. I have a fetish with wanting them on my team instead of selfish bums.. YES, I have an all consuming fetish for greatness!!!
tkf wrote:H1AND1 wrote:tkf wrote:GustavBahler wrote:knickscity wrote:GustavBahler wrote:If Melo does leave, I would hope we could do a sign and trade for Noah and picks. Noah would give this team a much needed spine. Noah isn't a superstar but I do believe he would help draw elite players to NY.
They wont be giving up Noah, just can end that dream now.
Stranger things have happened. I would be damned impressed if Phil could pull it off.
really? I think you can count that out. I will argue that noah is a better basketball player than carmelo. The bulls would be nuts to do such a thing...
A perennial DPOY candidate center who racks up triple doubles as an assist machine(aka if one were to create the perfect 5 for today's style of small ball basketball, wouldn't Noah be what comes out of the lab)?
Yeah, not only is he better than Melo by several country miles but id also argue the Bulls wouldn't trade him for anyone who isn't named Lebron, Davis, or Durant. Noah is a helluva player.
I can also agree with that. Noah has impressed me over the years, at first I wasn't high on the kid, always respected his motor tho.. but his game has truly transformed and he leads by example. He is a unique player and one as you said you don't trade unless you are getting back a lebron or Durant...
he's a top 5 player in my opinion.
Knicks wouldn't be getting Noah. What you'd want are those two firsts, a couple of seconds, Boozer and JR and/or Felton cap relief.
gunsnewing wrote:I wish there was a way for me to personally thank Melo for leaving the Knicks. Best Melo moment for me
+1000. Will be best day as Knicks fan in a looong time.
NardDogNation wrote:fitzfarm wrote:The more I think about it especially a sign and trade to bring back Lin, and draft picks. I really don't mind melo walking. I think thjr has super star written all over him. I'd love to see us move jr for a sf as well like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist who has a team option next year. And I think the hornets bit cause jr gives them a good second scorer which they were missing last year...a line up of Lin,thjr,m kg,amare,brags?... Don't want Tyson what so ever... 2015 could look like this... Lin,thjr,kawhi Leonard,Love,Marc gasol...sign amare for vet min,shump off the bench,or switch Lin with dragic... That team could go far even champ.. Also picks from melo s&t and Tyson trade.
What do you define as a superstar? Because by any conventional definition, THJr doesn't even come close. Beyond that, why would KG forego $12 million to join a lottery team? Why would Minnesota be dumb enough to let Kevin Love walk for nothing? And if we can't get him, why would Marc Gasol join a lottery team? How did Kawhi Leonard magically get onto our team and why would he leave a better team/organization for us? He's going to get paid either way, so why not pick the option with the bigger annual raises? None of what you've said makes sense.
Kg? Mkg (Michael Kidd-Gilchrist)who is on the hornets who has a team option after next season who we could prob get for jr smith. After next year Kevin love is a Ufa,as well as Marc gasol Ufa, kawhi Leonard has a player option of 4 mil after next season which he will surly opt out of for more money. Why would Leonard stay for 4 mil when he can get more then 8 per on the open market. None of what you replied to makes sense. Do your research. All the player I spoke of can be had in 2015 pending contract extensions.
as far as thjr goes sky is the limit for a kid that can score from anywhere on the floor weather it's creating his own, driving, or hitting the open spot up j also our best transition scorer. I expect his defense to be better next year . Thjr drastically improved by the end of this past season averaged one steal a game last month of the season and overall better defense as well..
