Andrew wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Andrew wrote:Melo sign and trade for Dunlevey, McD and some picks or the euro or both. IMO Knicks are making a great move by telling the bulls they dont want Boozer. Why pay his salary? If meloe leaves, the knicks want to be as bad as possible next year because they own their own pick.
The result is melo gets his max salary, since the bulls anmesty boozer and have enough cap space to take back more salary than they send out. Knicks get a large trade exception and prospects while preserving cap flexibility for next offseason. Win-win. Bulls keep their core and compete right away. Knicks start the rebuild with cap space and prospects.
Swap McD with Jimmy Butler.
Why? Who does it benefit? Seems like McD is a better triangle fit and Butler is better for chi win now plans
I don't really know to much about McDs game but I don't like the risk of him being a tweener. Butler is already one of the better NBA perimeter defenders and can hit the 3 though he shot poorly this past season. Him and Shumpert if not traded could really do damage. And if Thanasis were to come along as well.
dk7th wrote:Nalod wrote:For what ever reasons, Booze getting exiled via Amnesty yields back to Chicago only 11-12 million from what I have read. They need to clear more. Its doable.While I am no expert on Jerry Reinsdorf I find his history to not conducive to eating that, giving away 5 mil in players, and then paying someone another 17mil. Thats 34 million and loss of an asset. Would he do it if melo was willing? Perhaps, but when Phil said FU to Booze in a sign and trade it seemed to lower the number they were asking Melo to take.
We assume because Dolan did it with Billups and Tyson others would. Im remembering too many teams that have done that. In the Bulls case, $34mil is a big number for a player.
IN a sign and trade the player is basically gone and now we trying to get some sort of compensation in return which is usually 50 cents on the dollar. The question of "what is acceptable" by fans vs. the reality of the situation. Chicago is actually set up very well to surround Noah and rose whom are both still young in many ways via yoot, trade, or both.
In fact, they can reboot (again) by shedding noah and likely get some good value in return. They have a lot of assets to make a run for Love which requires them shedding Booze. Love at age 25 and the financial considerations make more sense. Minny would have to take some cap back.
bulls would be crazy to trade noah. he's a top tier player, someone you can actually build around.
Yeah, he justifiably was 4th in MVP voting last year. Melo was 15th.
newyorknewyork wrote:I don't really know to much about McDs game but I don't like the risk of him being a tweener. Butler is already one of the better NBA perimeter defenders and can hit the 3 though he shot poorly this past season. Him and Shumpert if not traded could really do damage. And if Thanasis were to come along as well.
Fair, but you got to make the trade good for Chicago too. The would def want to keep Butler.
Bonn1997 wrote:dk7th wrote:Nalod wrote:For what ever reasons, Booze getting exiled via Amnesty yields back to Chicago only 11-12 million from what I have read. They need to clear more. Its doable.While I am no expert on Jerry Reinsdorf I find his history to not conducive to eating that, giving away 5 mil in players, and then paying someone another 17mil. Thats 34 million and loss of an asset. Would he do it if melo was willing? Perhaps, but when Phil said FU to Booze in a sign and trade it seemed to lower the number they were asking Melo to take.
We assume because Dolan did it with Billups and Tyson others would. Im remembering too many teams that have done that. In the Bulls case, $34mil is a big number for a player.
IN a sign and trade the player is basically gone and now we trying to get some sort of compensation in return which is usually 50 cents on the dollar. The question of "what is acceptable" by fans vs. the reality of the situation. Chicago is actually set up very well to surround Noah and rose whom are both still young in many ways via yoot, trade, or both.
In fact, they can reboot (again) by shedding noah and likely get some good value in return. They have a lot of assets to make a run for Love which requires them shedding Booze. Love at age 25 and the financial considerations make more sense. Minny would have to take some cap back.
bulls would be crazy to trade noah. he's a top tier player, someone you can actually build around.
Yeah, he justifiably was 4th in MVP voting last year. Melo was 15th.
most underrated player in the NBA.
Bonn1997 wrote:dk7th wrote:Nalod wrote:For what ever reasons, Booze getting exiled via Amnesty yields back to Chicago only 11-12 million from what I have read. They need to clear more. Its doable.While I am no expert on Jerry Reinsdorf I find his history to not conducive to eating that, giving away 5 mil in players, and then paying someone another 17mil. Thats 34 million and loss of an asset. Would he do it if melo was willing? Perhaps, but when Phil said FU to Booze in a sign and trade it seemed to lower the number they were asking Melo to take.
We assume because Dolan did it with Billups and Tyson others would. Im remembering too many teams that have done that. In the Bulls case, $34mil is a big number for a player.
IN a sign and trade the player is basically gone and now we trying to get some sort of compensation in return which is usually 50 cents on the dollar. The question of "what is acceptable" by fans vs. the reality of the situation. Chicago is actually set up very well to surround Noah and rose whom are both still young in many ways via yoot, trade, or both.
In fact, they can reboot (again) by shedding noah and likely get some good value in return. They have a lot of assets to make a run for Love which requires them shedding Booze. Love at age 25 and the financial considerations make more sense. Minny would have to take some cap back.
bulls would be crazy to trade noah. he's a top tier player, someone you can actually build around.
Yeah, he justifiably was 4th in MVP voting last year. Melo was 15th.
Sell high. If Rose goes down again you have to move on and reboot. Noah's game is based on superior athletic ability, those feet have been a problem and seems to be in pain at seasons end. Anticipate is better than reactive.
Buy low and sell high.
It's more likely that Melo's body than Noah's will deteriorate though. This might be selling high and buying even higher.
yeah you can't forget about both of melo's shoulders. poor guy has been carrying teams to first round exits so many years he is worn out.
Bonn1997 wrote:It's more likely that Melo's body than Noah's will deteriorate though. This might be selling high and buying even higher.
Melo, Rose or Noah- who will break down first? If I'm Chicago I just bring over Mirotic, play the new rookie, and improve the roster- wouldn't target Melo.
