nyk4ever wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
yeah bonn they're a .400 team - a .400 team with lebron, kyrie irving and andrew wiggins. i'm sure they'll be in a dogfight for the 8th seed. man you are such a slave to numbers, it's pathetic.
that team is stacked if LBJ comes aboard and I'm not even considering Bennett or Waiters turning it around
SupremeCommander wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Stephen A. saying if Bosh goes to the rockets Melo will team up with LeBron in Miami.
wouldn't Melo just go Houston himself if that were true?
Bosh wants the max, would make it difficult to absorb both contracts I imagine.
Bonn1997 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
Lebron added to this team wins 55 games easy next season probably 60. The went from a .744 team to a .232 the year after he left.
That sounds about right. Earlier he talked about wanting to win eight championships, though. Remember when he first joined Miami? For that kind of goal, I think there are better options.
I think that's true from an absolute sense but in terms of his legacy? there isn't a better option than getting that team a chip. I don't think he wants to be remembered as a vagabond
Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
Lebron added to this team wins 55 games easy next season probably 60. The went from a .744 team to a .232 the year after he left.
That sounds about right. Earlier he talked about wanting to win eight championships, though. Remember when he first joined Miami? For that kind of goal, I think there are better options.
I like the Cavs situation , Id much rather have their roster then the Knicks. I think they have done a poor job drafting , they were very fortunate to get Wiggins
I'm not that high on Irving. He's just a volume scorer. He's not bad but not special. A lot of this depends on Wiggins. The Cavs aren't in a bad situation but if there were 30 teams desperate to land me, I wouldn't pick them. Maybe it just has more to do with wanting to go back to Cleveland, and placing a lower emphasis on getting tons of titles. It's really unexpected considering how nasty the breakup was though.
GustavBahler wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Stephen A. saying if Bosh goes to the rockets Melo will team up with LeBron in Miami.
wouldn't Melo just go Houston himself if that were true?
Bosh wants the max, would make it difficult to absorb both contracts I imagine.
Yeah, and I'd rather just follow Lebron to wherever he wanted to go.
SupremeCommander wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Stephen A. saying if Bosh goes to the rockets Melo will team up with LeBron in Miami.
wouldn't Melo just go Houston himself if that were true?
Bosh is a better fit than Anthony I think
Bonn1997 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
Lebron added to this team wins 55 games easy next season probably 60. The went from a .744 team to a .232 the year after he left.
That sounds about right. Earlier he talked about wanting to win eight championships, though. Remember when he first joined Miami? For that kind of goal, I think there are better options.
I doubt they would be done. Love would be in play then and everyone else willing to go to play with Lebron. The Cavs have future picks to go trade and pick up any disgruntled player looking to get out. Also, Mike Miller will join in a heartbeat. I actually think Miami should get Miller to help keep Lebron.
SupremeCommander wrote:nyk4ever wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
yeah bonn they're a .400 team - a .400 team with lebron, kyrie irving and andrew wiggins. i'm sure they'll be in a dogfight for the 8th seed. man you are such a slave to numbers, it's pathetic.
that team is stacked if LBJ comes aboard and I'm not even considering Bennett or Waiters turning it around
If they get Lebron those guys might become available for .50 cents on the dollar especially Waiters . I wanted the Knicks to get him last year , rumors are we turned down a Shump Waiters swap which I think is crazy from a Knicks perspective
Jmpasq wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:nyk4ever wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
yeah bonn they're a .400 team - a .400 team with lebron, kyrie irving and andrew wiggins. i'm sure they'll be in a dogfight for the 8th seed. man you are such a slave to numbers, it's pathetic.
that team is stacked if LBJ comes aboard and I'm not even considering Bennett or Waiters turning it around
If they get Lebron those guys might become available for .50 cents on the dollar especially Waiters . I wanted the Knicks to get him last year , rumors are we turned down a Shump Waiters swap which I think is crazy from a Knicks perspective
Windhorst is saying that he wouldn't be surprised if Ray Allen followed him to Cleveland.
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
Lebron added to this team wins 55 games easy next season probably 60. The went from a .744 team to a .232 the year after he left.
That sounds about right. Earlier he talked about wanting to win eight championships, though. Remember when he first joined Miami? For that kind of goal, I think there are better options.
I doubt they would be done. Love would be in play then and everyone else willing to go to play with Lebron. The Cavs have future picks to go trade and pick up any disgruntled player looking to get out. Also, Mike Miller will join in a heartbeat. I actually think Miami should get Miller to help keep Lebron.
They could probbaly do a Waiters ,Tristan thompson Bennett picks swap for Love and Kevin Martin. Cavs could probbaly get Chris Anderson to follow Lebron to Cleveland. Have a lineup with Kyrie, K MArtin , Wiggins,Lebron,Love.
Jmpasq wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
Lebron added to this team wins 55 games easy next season probably 60. The went from a .744 team to a .232 the year after he left.
That sounds about right. Earlier he talked about wanting to win eight championships, though. Remember when he first joined Miami? For that kind of goal, I think there are better options.
I doubt they would be done. Love would be in play then and everyone else willing to go to play with Lebron. The Cavs have future picks to go trade and pick up any disgruntled player looking to get out. Also, Mike Miller will join in a heartbeat. I actually think Miami should get Miller to help keep Lebron.
They could probbaly do a Waiters ,Tristan thompson Bennett picks swap for Love and Kevin Martin. Cavs could probbaly get Chris Anderson to follow Lebron to Cleveland. Have a lineup with Kyrie, K MArtin , Wiggins,Lebron,Love.
I would need at least 2 1st rd picks and some 2nd rd picks to take back those players off Clevland hands.
yellowboy90 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
Lebron added to this team wins 55 games easy next season probably 60. The went from a .744 team to a .232 the year after he left.
That sounds about right. Earlier he talked about wanting to win eight championships, though. Remember when he first joined Miami? For that kind of goal, I think there are better options.
I doubt they would be done. Love would be in play then and everyone else willing to go to play with Lebron. The Cavs have future picks to go trade and pick up any disgruntled player looking to get out. Also, Mike Miller will join in a heartbeat. I actually think Miami should get Miller to help keep Lebron.
They could probbaly do a Waiters ,Tristan thompson Bennett picks swap for Love and Kevin Martin. Cavs could probbaly get Chris Anderson to follow Lebron to Cleveland. Have a lineup with Kyrie, K MArtin , Wiggins,Lebron,Love.
I would need at least 2 1st rd picks and some 2nd rd picks to take back those players off Clevland hands.
I think they could get 2 1sts as well. Honestly I dont know how much better of a deal the Wolves would get, I like Waiters more than most people though. Tristan Thompson is a good player 11 and 10 in 30. I didnt like Bennett thought they should of taken oladipo. I still think all 3 of those guys contracts make them valuable though
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
Lebron added to this team wins 55 games easy next season probably 60. The went from a .744 team to a .232 the year after he left.
That sounds about right. Earlier he talked about wanting to win eight championships, though. Remember when he first joined Miami? For that kind of goal, I think there are better options.
I doubt they would be done. Love would be in play then and everyone else willing to go to play with Lebron. The Cavs have future picks to go trade and pick up any disgruntled player looking to get out. Also, Mike Miller will join in a heartbeat. I actually think Miami should get Miller to help keep Lebron.
Would they have cap space for that? They're probably going to give Irving the max or close to it.
Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lebron should be in cleveland, it never made any sense for him to leave. he is that franchise, he is that city, go back and be an actual king in that city. that's a hell of a team they'd have a for a long time if he did.
You're talking about him joining a .400 team?
Lebron added to this team wins 55 games easy next season probably 60. The went from a .744 team to a .232 the year after he left.
That sounds about right. Earlier he talked about wanting to win eight championships, though. Remember when he first joined Miami? For that kind of goal, I think there are better options.
I doubt they would be done. Love would be in play then and everyone else willing to go to play with Lebron. The Cavs have future picks to go trade and pick up any disgruntled player looking to get out. Also, Mike Miller will join in a heartbeat. I actually think Miami should get Miller to help keep Lebron.
Would they have cap space for that? They're probably going to give Irving the max or close to it.
I think it is a Max extension so I think the cap number is only affected next year. Lebron at the Max brings their cap level at 56M so yeah it would work. Rememebr they can go over the cap to get Love because it is a regular trade but even with the supposed deal above they would probably be at $56-57M range. They still have money to get so many players and that includes Deng bird rights.
I think all that is right but someone more knowledgeable is welcome to correct me. Wait I didn't include Martin so that would make it $62-63M but even that's enough to make things happen. If they find a sucker to take on Jack's contract that makes even more room. If they include a future 1st I hope the knicks would take Jack for Dalembert and Odom partial contracts. Even a 1st might not be enough.
Oh you're talking about trading for Love? Then you have to take into account that they'll be giving up a lot of assets, though, but you're right that that would be a fantastic situation for Lebron.
Bonn1997 wrote:Oh you're talking about trading for Love? Then you have to take into account that they'll be giving up a lot of assets, though, but you're right that that would be a fantastic situation for Lebron.
Cleveland could trade Wiggins. Im not looking at cap, but They more than have enough assets.
What the potential is can be amazing if Bennet turns out and Wiggins becomes a star. Lebron's wear and tear can be slowed down.
If I'm Lebron, there's no way I'd go back to Cleveland and play for that arse of an owner, especially after that letter in 2010. Same goes for the jersey burning fans- that backlash was way over the top. Kind of an awkward reunion.
Bonn1997 wrote:Oh you're talking about trading for Love? Then you have to take into account that they'll be giving up a lot of assets, though, but you're right that that would be a fantastic situation for Lebron.
Yeah, they have like 2-3 draft picks next year so they have more than enough to ship out their recent number 4s and maybe Bennett.
