it's 4.6% of what he could've gotten.
if your boss tells you he's gonna give you a 4.6% pay cut or a 4.6% pay raise, would you shrug that off?
anrst wrote:Melo gave up 6 million bucksSix Million. That's a lot of money.
I don't care how much more money he has and how much more money he has coming to him, six million dollars is nothing to take for granted.
Props to Melo.
He's still got the biggest basketball contract on the planet - just by slightly less than it could have been
Bonn1997 wrote:anrst wrote:Melo gave up 6 million bucksSix Million. That's a lot of money.
I don't care how much more money he has and how much more money he has coming to him, six million dollars is nothing to take for granted.
Props to Melo.
He's still got the biggest basketball contract on the planet - just by slightly less than it could have been
for a one-way player. i just can't look past that. it's a hindrance to winning.
i wonder how many designated hitters get this sort of money relative to their team salary?
dk7th wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:anrst wrote:Melo gave up 6 million bucksSix Million. That's a lot of money.
I don't care how much more money he has and how much more money he has coming to him, six million dollars is nothing to take for granted.
Props to Melo.
He's still got the biggest basketball contract on the planet - just by slightly less than it could have been
for a one-way player. i just can't look past that. it's a hindrance to winning.
i wonder how many designated hitters get this sort of money relative to their team salary?
yeah - A DH is the perfect comparison. Apples to Testicles.
It's unfair to dismiss 6m ... Ya know how much stuff la la coulda bought with 6m
anrst wrote:It's unfair to dismiss 6m ... Ya know how much stuff la la coulda bought with 6m
One not so old collectible Corvette, little yacht, new summer mansion in Florida...
He sacrificed a lot...
He also could give it for cancer research or help kids in inner cities...
Now it it is up to Dolan what to do with this money... May be buy collectible guitar?
Or may be Zen can turn it into a title (some one million per year miracle).
dk7th wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:anrst wrote:Melo gave up 6 million bucksSix Million. That's a lot of money.
I don't care how much more money he has and how much more money he has coming to him, six million dollars is nothing to take for granted.
Props to Melo.
He's still got the biggest basketball contract on the planet - just by slightly less than it could have been
for a one-way player. i just can't look past that. it's a hindrance to winning.
i wonder how many designated hitters get this sort of money relative to their team salary?
you keep saying one way player, but evidence shows otherwise.
Yeah, it's more like half-way since he's a good scorer but not distributor!
Bonn1997 wrote:Yeah, it's more like half-way since he's a good scorer but not distributor!
he's a good distributor when he wants to be, and WHEN woodson had the basketballs to say it to him.
Cartman718 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Yeah, it's more like half-way since he's a good scorer but not distributor!
he's a good distributor when he wants to be, and WHEN woodson had the basketballs to say it to him.
OK, let's say 60% of a one way player than.
Bonn1997 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Yeah, it's more like half-way since he's a good scorer but not distributor!
he's a good distributor when he wants to be, and WHEN woodson had the basketballs to say it to him.
OK, let's say 60% of a one way player than.
put an asterisk next to that 60% since it was under the dumbest knicks coach i have ever seen (isiah thomas included).
WaltLongmire wrote:For all intents and purposes he got a max deal. His average yearly contract is about $1.4M less than a full max contract. He took 95% of what he could have received, when the total is rounded up.You can play around with the amount he gets for 2015, but it still gives us limited financial flexibility, and it would mean that the other years are basically at the max amount.
Have to go back to how we originally got him. You know... the contract and trade he squeezed out of us. We had to pay a lot of money to sign him, give up many assets, and then watch as he decided to opt out of the final year (telling us before the season), and get wined and dined by other suitors- squeezing us for a five year deal and limiting the assets we could bring to the Knicks in the future. It also sounds like he wants a no-trade deal, which limits our future flexibility even more.
Folks seem to look at this contract without even thinking of how we got him. Gave up a lot of stuff to get him the last time...potentially keeping us from a getting lot of stuff the next 5 years.
Melo has played hard (for the most part), and improved his long range shot to an extent, but he has also morphed from a SF to a PF, unless he can lost about 25 lbs., and this hurts our interior D because he is only a marginal help defender, and adds no length or shot blocking ability to the team at the PF position.
Just don't feel I can give him any "props" at this time. Maybe someday, but not now.
That's nice. Tell us what those assets are again, because we've been hearing for four years how great those assets are. List them off.
We gave up $3 million to sign Melo.
Did you watch us make the playoffs and win a division title and get to the second round for the first time in a over a decade? Were we doing all that with your potential "stuff"?
"Potentially getting a lot of stuff the next 5 years. We got alot of "stuff" before Melo's current contract. We went from no draft picks to CleAnthony. The worst PG in the league to Jose Calderone. Shane Larkin.
You think Phil's going to take a nap for the next 5 years?
mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:anrst wrote:Melo gave up 6 million bucksSix Million. That's a lot of money.
I don't care how much more money he has and how much more money he has coming to him, six million dollars is nothing to take for granted.
Props to Melo.
He's still got the biggest basketball contract on the planet - just by slightly less than it could have been
for a one-way player. i just can't look past that. it's a hindrance to winning.
i wonder how many designated hitters get this sort of money relative to their team salary?
yeah - A DH is the perfect comparison. Apples to Testicles.
+1 Priceless.
One way player. He only gets offensive rebounds. He never gets any steals or blocks on this team. He's the worst PF in the NBA at assists per game.
He's not listed anywhere near our former patron saint of the MeloHate league, Paul George, in anything.
Just keep repeating the mantra.
Cartman718 wrote:dk7th wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:anrst wrote:Melo gave up 6 million bucksSix Million. That's a lot of money.
I don't care how much more money he has and how much more money he has coming to him, six million dollars is nothing to take for granted.
Props to Melo.
He's still got the biggest basketball contract on the planet - just by slightly less than it could have been
for a one-way player. i just can't look past that. it's a hindrance to winning.
i wonder how many designated hitters get this sort of money relative to their team salary?
you keep saying one way player, but evidence shows otherwise.
and he will keep saying it, and keep ignoring the evidence.
Hate is really all the evidence you need.
the props will or wont come in the future. This just some guys spinning wheels and blowing air. People need to get over themselves and realize this is what happens with impact players. They get money. Lots of it. Hell... the league is full of guys being paid like stars because someone saw they have potential to be impact players. This is the nature of the game and the business, and everyone in sports takes the money. Everyone. Please get over the "be like Tim Duncan" who took less at 36 years old after making $200mm but yea.. he's the ultimate sacrificer. People put their personal feelings into it and come off silly. Most of these guys get one chance in life to make this kind of money.
Ask Iverson if he could use an extra $6-$7mm right now.
fishmike wrote:the props will or wont come in the future. This just some guys spinning wheels and blowing air. People need to get over themselves and realize this is what happens with impact players. They get money. Lots of it. Hell... the league is full of guys being paid like stars because someone saw they have potential to be impact players. This is the nature of the game and the business, and everyone in sports takes the money. Everyone. Please get over the "be like Tim Duncan" who took less at 36 years old after making $200mm but yea.. he's the ultimate sacrificer. People put their personal feelings into it and come off silly. Most of these guys get one chance in life to make this kind of money.Ask Iverson if he could use an extra $6-$7mm right now.
He would probably blow thru it in a week
Did anyone get the scoop on if the contract has a no trade clause? It's nice to have options.
BigRedDog wrote:fishmike wrote:the props will or wont come in the future. This just some guys spinning wheels and blowing air. People need to get over themselves and realize this is what happens with impact players. They get money. Lots of it. Hell... the league is full of guys being paid like stars because someone saw they have potential to be impact players. This is the nature of the game and the business, and everyone in sports takes the money. Everyone. Please get over the "be like Tim Duncan" who took less at 36 years old after making $200mm but yea.. he's the ultimate sacrificer. People put their personal feelings into it and come off silly. Most of these guys get one chance in life to make this kind of money.Ask Iverson if he could use an extra $6-$7mm right now.
He would probably blow thru it in a weekend
fixed... agree
Its funny. I love how guys think it doesnt matter. What did he give up? 5%? So for all you guys who make $80k you boss says "I want you take a $4k paycut. I mean its only $4k... say yes or your greedy selfish bla bla bla"
Im not giving the guy the a gold star but it counts and it matters. Just cause the totals are in a zone that people cant identify with doest mean it doesnt matter.
fishmike wrote:BigRedDog wrote:fishmike wrote:the props will or wont come in the future. This just some guys spinning wheels and blowing air. People need to get over themselves and realize this is what happens with impact players. They get money. Lots of it. Hell... the league is full of guys being paid like stars because someone saw they have potential to be impact players. This is the nature of the game and the business, and everyone in sports takes the money. Everyone. Please get over the "be like Tim Duncan" who took less at 36 years old after making $200mm but yea.. he's the ultimate sacrificer. People put their personal feelings into it and come off silly. Most of these guys get one chance in life to make this kind of money.Ask Iverson if he could use an extra $6-$7mm right now.
He would probably blow thru it in a weekend
fixed... agreeIts funny. I love how guys think it doesnt matter. What did he give up? 5%? So for all you guys who make $80k you boss says "I want you take a $4k paycut. I mean its only $4k... say yes or your greedy selfish bla bla bla"
Im not giving the guy the a gold star but it counts and it matters. Just cause the totals are in a zone that people cant identify with doest mean it doesnt matter.
fish, but maybe, just maybe, we should just look at the 5% divided by each shoulder? By each rebound? By second of PT? By how many points all those assets we traded away 4 years ago have scored per minute? By the number of playoff games we don't play in? By the potential defensive Winshares of all the two-way players we could have drafted/traded for/signed as FA's?
Panos wrote:Did anyone get the scoop on if the contract has a no trade clause? It's nice to have options.
Of course he demanded a no trade. The ball was in his court. He would never live with the embarrassment of being traded by Phil
fishmike wrote:the props will or wont come in the future. This just some guys spinning wheels and blowing air. People need to get over themselves and realize this is what happens with impact players. They get money. Lots of it. Hell... the league is full of guys being paid like stars because someone saw they have potential to be impact players. This is the nature of the game and the business, and everyone in sports takes the money. Everyone. Please get over the "be like Tim Duncan" who took less at 36 years old after making $200mm but yea.. he's the ultimate sacrificer. People put their personal feelings into it and come off silly. Most of these guys get one chance in life to make this kind of money.Ask Iverson if he could use an extra $6-$7mm right now.
As you admitted yourself, that 6-7 million does not matter because Iverson would blow it all away in days. It would not matter how much money he made. 200 million, 300 million, habits are habits. Iverson's problem is that he didn't know how to use money, not that he didn't have enough! Iverson's situation is not a logical argument to support players taking the max amount; when dealing with players with spending habits that poor, it is completely irrelevant how much money they make, all that will be affected is the amount of months before they go broke.
I'm not saying Melo is a villain for taking what he did, I just really hate the Iverson example in this context.
