misterearl wrote:Gustav - I hear what you are saying but Melo cannot do everything. He increased his rebounding, scored and played point forward. When the team is faltering, vocal leadership is what the coach and his numerous assistants should provide.
Let Melo focus on hitting the open man.
I believe it should come from on and off the court. Melo is our best player and commands a certain amount of respect which gives what he says some weight.
mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:misterearl wrote:Who's Gunna Take The Weight?GustavBahler - what tells you that Melo is not a vocal leader?
Melo ain't the problem. Uncle Phil is wise to lighten his load, not increase it.
We desperately need a 6'11 forward who can box out and play defense.
I watch the games Earl. Saying that Melo isn't a vocal leader isn't the same thing as saying he's the problem, there is room for improvement in that department. Not like doing extra paperwork, just want him to be more vocal when the team is faltering.
He was vocal when he told Woody to "just fukkin coach the game" 
LOL, if Melo could be like that on the floor more often, we would be in business.
Agreed but how often do you have to deal with a tool/bizzaro world coach like Woody?
I thought Woodson was a good coach at first, more involved. Ready to call a TO when he saw something he didn't like, made adjustments that worked. Eventually he put the team on autopilot, stopped yelling at JR when he was fing up, took it out on Shump. Made a joke of his accountability mantra.
GustavBahler wrote:mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:misterearl wrote:Who's Gunna Take The Weight?GustavBahler - what tells you that Melo is not a vocal leader?
Melo ain't the problem. Uncle Phil is wise to lighten his load, not increase it.
We desperately need a 6'11 forward who can box out and play defense.
I watch the games Earl. Saying that Melo isn't a vocal leader isn't the same thing as saying he's the problem, there is room for improvement in that department. Not like doing extra paperwork, just want him to be more vocal when the team is faltering.
He was vocal when he told Woody to "just fukkin coach the game"
LOL, if Melo could be like that on the floor more often, we would be in business.
Agreed but how often do you have to deal with a tool/bizzaro world coach like Woody?
I thought Woodson was a good coach at first, more involved. Ready to call a TO when he saw something he didn't like, made adjustments that worked. Eventually he put the team on autopilot, stopped yelling at JR when he was fing up, took it out on Shump. Made a joke of his accountability mantra.
effin enabler ...
Not helping felton on the picks which killed us ...
End game play designs were Kevin Gilbride bad
And, not playing Cole was retarded but a blessing now.
“Oh, it hurt. It hurt. We wanted him to have an opportunity. Just couldn’t kind of break free from what was going on and get back on the basketball court and work.” - Phil Jackson on Lamar Odom
Uncle Phil saw the issue in advance. He needed another long, frontcourt player with the ability to defend multiple positions.
Each of our point guards are liabilities on defense, for different reasons. Jose Calderon is a gem, but he needs help. We like Larkin. He still gotta man up on defense and show what he can do against John Wall, Kyle Lowry, Russell Westbrook, Eric Bledsoe, Mike Conley, Ty Lawson or Deron Williams.
Among our shooting guards, Shump is an expert at ball pressure. Tim Hardaway Jr gives up easy baskets as routine. JR can be as good as he wants. The neverending question is, "What does JR Want?"
Bargnani cannot be camouflaged on defense. Putting him on the floor with Stoudemire, defensively, could be a skit on Saturday Night Live.
misterearl wrote:Who's Gunna Take The Weight?GustavBahler - what tells you that Melo is not a vocal leader?
Melo ain't the problem. Uncle Phil is wise to lighten his load, not increase it.
We desperately need a 6'11 forward who can box out and play defense.
Who do you have in mind? It's one thing to identify a need and yet another to solve the problem. I would guess that Phil is pondering this question right now. There area a few guys still available. Some have already been signed off this list.
Player HT WT Pos FA FA Status YOS Age
Daniel Orton 6-10 256 C U N/A 4 23
Viacheslav Kravtsov 6-11 254 C U N/A 2 26
Dexter Pittman 6-11 285 C U N/A 4 26
Andris Biedrins 7-0 250 C U N/A 10 28
Greg Stiemsma 6-11 260 C U N/A 4 28
Hamady Ndiaye 7-0 235 C U N/A 3 27
Greg Oden 7-0 273 C U Non-Bird 6 26
Aaron Gray 7-0 270 C U Bird 7 29
Ryan Hollins 7-0 240 C U Early Bird 8 29
Jason Collins 7-0 255 C U Non-Bird 13 35
Nazr Mohammed 6-10 250 C U Early Bird 16 36
Andrew Bynum 7-0 285 C U Non-Bird 9 26
Byron Mullens 7-0 275 C U Non-Bird 5 25
Aron Baynes 6-10 260 C R Early Bird 2 27
Bernard James 6-10 230 C U Early Bird 2 29
Jermaine O'Neal 6-11 235 C/PF U Non-Bird 18 35
Emeka Okafor 6-10 255 C/PF U Bird 10 31
Anthony Tolliver 6-8 240 C/PF U Non-Bird 7 29
Greg Monroe 6-11 250 C/PF R Bird 4 24
Solomon Jones 6-10 235 PF U N/A 8 29
Earl Clark 6-10 225 PF U Non-Bird 5 26
Glen Davis 6-9 289 PF U Non-Bird 7 28
Charlie Villanueva 6-11 232 PF U Bird 9 29
Channing Frye 6-11 248 PF U Bird 9 31
Andray Blatche 6-11 260 PF U Early Bird 9 27
Kris Humphries 6-9 235 PF U Bird 10 29
Kenyon Martin 6-9 240 PF U Early Bird 14 36
Elton Brand 6-9 254 PF U Non-Bird 15 35
Jordan Hill 6-10 235 PF U Bird 5 26
James Johnson 6-9 245 PF U Non-Bird 5 27
DeJuan Blair 6-7 270 PF U Non-Bird 5 25
Patrick Patterson 6-9 235 PF R Bird 4 25
Ed Davis 6-10 225 PF U Bird 4 25
Chris Singleton 6-8 230 PF U OPT-Bird 3 24
Ryan Kelly 6-11 230 PF R Non-Bird 1 23
Jan Vesely 6-11 240 PF U OPT-Bird 3 24
Trevor Booker 6-8 240 PF U Bird 4 26
Mike Scott 6-8 237 PF R Early Bird 2 25
Grant Jerrett 6-10 220 PF R Non-Bird 1 21
Jason Maxiell 6-7 260 PF U N/A 9 31
Josh McRoberts 6-10 240 PF/C U Bird 7 27
Jason Smith 7-0 240 PF/C U Bird 7 28
Drew Gooden 6-10 230 PF/C U Non-Bird 12 32
Keeping It Real
Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Chris Paul...
which one is Calderon or Larkin slowing down?
and I love the acquisition of Jose Calderon.
We need another fluid, tall, expert defender up front to compensate.
misterearl wrote:Keeping It RealKyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Chris Paul...
which one is Calderon or Larkin slowing down?
and I love the acquisition of Jose Calderon.
We need another fluid, tall, expert defender up front to compensate.
Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Chris Paul...
which one is dragic or bledsoe or tony parker or kyle lowry or blah blah blah slowing down?
Cartman718 - you funny.
Let's go to the videotape
misterearl wrote:Cartman718 - you funny.Let's go to the videotape
i'm just saying. you are bringing 3 of the top 5 point guards in the league and asking a question like who is calderon and larkin going to stop?
it's about exploiting their team's weaknesses sometimes, not always stopping their best player.
like phil said (and insinuated), we have a bunch of average guards which we might want to trade. but if we cannot, we still have workable pieces... just not ideal.
hell it's all an upgrade compared to felton no defense and toure murry no offense. no?
looking at that list its amazing Jermaine Oneil is only 35. I feel like he should be 50 by now
EnySpree wrote:First off Melo is no longer considered a bad defender. He's Proven that over the last 2 seasons. Dude is guarding all 3 front court positions and banging with guys bigger than him. Amare scoring well has nothing to do with defense. He can't rebound either.
Bargnani is a very good man on man defender. He's a horrible team defender.
Toure hardly played last year to even say he was a factor in defense.
Shump is definitely a mediocre defender. Bargnani had stopped more people than he has. Ask Dwight Howard.
I just want to say some of you guys are media clones just repeating what's been said in the past. You guys suck
Whaddya expect? We're all laws school/CPA dropouts! 
Cartman718 wrote:misterearl wrote:Cartman718 - you funny.Let's go to the videotape
i'm just saying. you are bringing 3 of the top 5 point guards in the league and asking a question like who is calderon and larkin going to stop?
it's about exploiting their team's weaknesses sometimes, not always stopping their best player.
like phil said (and insinuated), we have a bunch of average guards which we might want to trade. but if we cannot, we still have workable pieces... just not ideal.
hell it's all an upgrade compared to felton no defense and toure murry no offense. no?
This is like the argument back in their heyday where your backcourt was constantly asked if it could stop Marbles or AI.
Does a great, systematic offense create at least mediocre defense?
Cartman718 wrote:misterearl wrote:Keeping It RealKyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Chris Paul...
which one is Calderon or Larkin slowing down?
and I love the acquisition of Jose Calderon.
We need another fluid, tall, expert defender up front to compensate.
Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Chris Paul...
which one is dragic or bledsoe or tony parker or kyle lowry or blah blah blah slowing down?
By slowing down, he means hold to 20 to 25 points, instead of their season highs.
BigDaddyG wrote:Cartman718 wrote:misterearl wrote:Keeping It RealKyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Chris Paul...
which one is Calderon or Larkin slowing down?
and I love the acquisition of Jose Calderon.
We need another fluid, tall, expert defender up front to compensate.
Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Chris Paul...
which one is dragic or bledsoe or tony parker or kyle lowry or blah blah blah slowing down?
By slowing down, he means hold to 20 to 25 points, instead of their season highs.
so basically you are saying we didn't trade felton away?
