Knicks · Slim Melo? Melo Lite? (page 7)

alwaysaknick @ 8/12/2014 9:22 PM
Well done keep it up Melo!
CrushAlot @ 8/13/2014 11:58 AM
This is from an article about LeBron but does raise some concerns.
The reality? It all depends on just how he lost the weight, according to Nanci Guest, a sports nutrition expert who has worked with elite level amateur and professional athletes. If it’s the result of a low-carb or no carb diet, as has been suggested by ESPN reporter Brian Windhorst, the Cavaliers star could be setting himself up for trouble, says Guest.


“It’s unhealthy for athletes,” said Guest, a Toronto-based sport dietitian and PhD candidate studying genetics and high-performance athletes at the University of Toronto.


“There are some proponents out there that feel that if you stay on a high-fat diet long enough, that you can adapt to using fat as a primary fuel. It’s extremely risky, and more often than not, we see fatigue, we see a decrease in performance, immunity issues. Carbohydrates are an athlete’s best friend,” said Guest.


The reason? While carbohydrates might turn into extra, unwanted pounds on the body of your everyday couch potato, the body of an elite level athlete needs the energy that carbs provide.


“You look at someone like (swimmer Michael) Phelps, he’s able to go through 10,000 or 12,000 calories a day and 8,000 of those calories are purely because he’s burning them up as fuel in training. And 6,000 of that 8,000 would be carbohydrates,” said Guest. “It’s the gas in the gas tank. If you have a sport that needs less gas, you can eat less carbs, but you can’t go zero gas.”


http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball...
nixluva @ 8/13/2014 12:38 PM
CrushAlot wrote:This is from an article about LeBron but does raise some concerns.
The reality? It all depends on just how he lost the weight, according to Nanci Guest, a sports nutrition expert who has worked with elite level amateur and professional athletes. If it’s the result of a low-carb or no carb diet, as has been suggested by ESPN reporter Brian Windhorst, the Cavaliers star could be setting himself up for trouble, says Guest.


“It’s unhealthy for athletes,” said Guest, a Toronto-based sport dietitian and PhD candidate studying genetics and high-performance athletes at the University of Toronto.


“There are some proponents out there that feel that if you stay on a high-fat diet long enough, that you can adapt to using fat as a primary fuel. It’s extremely risky, and more often than not, we see fatigue, we see a decrease in performance, immunity issues. Carbohydrates are an athlete’s best friend,” said Guest.


The reason? While carbohydrates might turn into extra, unwanted pounds on the body of your everyday couch potato, the body of an elite level athlete needs the energy that carbs provide.


“You look at someone like (swimmer Michael) Phelps, he’s able to go through 10,000 or 12,000 calories a day and 8,000 of those calories are purely because he’s burning them up as fuel in training. And 6,000 of that 8,000 would be carbohydrates,” said Guest. “It’s the gas in the gas tank. If you have a sport that needs less gas, you can eat less carbs, but you can’t go zero gas.”


http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball...

All of this sounds a lot like the famous Atkins Diet. I don't think it's a good idea to do this on a permanent basis.

The first part of the plan, called the induction phase, has these rules:

No more than 20 grams of carbohydrates per day, mostly from certain vegetables
Protein and fat from poultry, fish, eggs, red meat, butter, and vegetable oils
No pasta, bread, grains, fruit, starchy vegetables, or dairy other than butter, cheese, and cream
No nuts, seeds, or legumes like beans
No caffeine
No alcohol
Next comes the "ongoing weight loss" stage, when you slowly add more vegetables, and you can include seeds, nuts, legumes, berries and other fruit, wine and other low-carb alcohol, and whole grains.

After that, to help keep the weight off, you may be able to eat more carbs and add more foods to your diet, depending on your body's needs.

Newer versions of the diet, including New Atkins for a New You and the Atkins web site, emphasize making good food choices, such as healthy fats.

yellowboy90 @ 8/13/2014 1:09 PM
CrushAlot wrote:This is from an article about LeBron but does raise some concerns.
The reality? It all depends on just how he lost the weight, according to Nanci Guest, a sports nutrition expert who has worked with elite level amateur and professional athletes. If it’s the result of a low-carb or no carb diet, as has been suggested by ESPN reporter Brian Windhorst, the Cavaliers star could be setting himself up for trouble, says Guest.


“It’s unhealthy for athletes,” said Guest, a Toronto-based sport dietitian and PhD candidate studying genetics and high-performance athletes at the University of Toronto.


“There are some proponents out there that feel that if you stay on a high-fat diet long enough, that you can adapt to using fat as a primary fuel. It’s extremely risky, and more often than not, we see fatigue, we see a decrease in performance, immunity issues. Carbohydrates are an athlete’s best friend,” said Guest.


The reason? While carbohydrates might turn into extra, unwanted pounds on the body of your everyday couch potato, the body of an elite level athlete needs the energy that carbs provide.


“You look at someone like (swimmer Michael) Phelps, he’s able to go through 10,000 or 12,000 calories a day and 8,000 of those calories are purely because he’s burning them up as fuel in training. And 6,000 of that 8,000 would be carbohydrates,” said Guest. “It’s the gas in the gas tank. If you have a sport that needs less gas, you can eat less carbs, but you can’t go zero gas.”


http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball...

http://www.si.com/edge/2014/08/11/inside...


Los Angeles Lakers nutritionist Dr. Cate Shanahan also uses James’ low-carb lifestyle approach with her team, but she puts a different spin on it.

“The term 'low-carb diet' should really be substituted with the term 'low sugar diet,'” says Shanahan, who helped Dwight Howard reduce his carbohydrate intake and cut out candy bars. “In order for carbs to absorb into the blood stream, they turn into glucose—whole grain or not it’s going to go in as sugar.”....


Despite the possible dangers, Shanahan says that if James is successful with his low-carb approach, he “will be a monster” on the court next season. After watching athletes in the NBA, she says players’ energy fluctuations between the first and second halves are obvious, “performance plummets because the sugar burners are so pumped up on adrenaline, which drops drastically after halftime.” The best thing an athlete can do is to go through the metabolic shift induced by a low-carb diet.

“Everything that an athlete wants they can get by becoming an expert fat burner,” Shanahan says. “If he can do that, he won’t rely on adrenaline and the muscles will work much more efficiently.”

yellowboy90 @ 8/13/2014 1:15 PM
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:This is from an article about LeBron but does raise some concerns.
The reality? It all depends on just how he lost the weight, according to Nanci Guest, a sports nutrition expert who has worked with elite level amateur and professional athletes. If it’s the result of a low-carb or no carb diet, as has been suggested by ESPN reporter Brian Windhorst, the Cavaliers star could be setting himself up for trouble, says Guest.


“It’s unhealthy for athletes,” said Guest, a Toronto-based sport dietitian and PhD candidate studying genetics and high-performance athletes at the University of Toronto.


“There are some proponents out there that feel that if you stay on a high-fat diet long enough, that you can adapt to using fat as a primary fuel. It’s extremely risky, and more often than not, we see fatigue, we see a decrease in performance, immunity issues. Carbohydrates are an athlete’s best friend,” said Guest.


The reason? While carbohydrates might turn into extra, unwanted pounds on the body of your everyday couch potato, the body of an elite level athlete needs the energy that carbs provide.


“You look at someone like (swimmer Michael) Phelps, he’s able to go through 10,000 or 12,000 calories a day and 8,000 of those calories are purely because he’s burning them up as fuel in training. And 6,000 of that 8,000 would be carbohydrates,” said Guest. “It’s the gas in the gas tank. If you have a sport that needs less gas, you can eat less carbs, but you can’t go zero gas.”


http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball...

All of this sounds a lot like the famous Atkins Diet. I don't think it's a good idea to do this on a permanent basis.

The first part of the plan, called the induction phase, has these rules:

No more than 20 grams of carbohydrates per day, mostly from certain vegetables
Protein and fat from poultry, fish, eggs, red meat, butter, and vegetable oils
No pasta, bread, grains, fruit, starchy vegetables, or dairy other than butter, cheese, and cream
No nuts, seeds, or legumes like beans
No caffeine
No alcohol
Next comes the "ongoing weight loss" stage, when you slowly add more vegetables, and you can include seeds, nuts, legumes, berries and other fruit, wine and other low-carb alcohol, and whole grains.

After that, to help keep the weight off, you may be able to eat more carbs and add more foods to your diet, depending on your body's needs.

Newer versions of the diet, including New Atkins for a New You and the Atkins web site, emphasize making good food choices, such as healthy fats.

It's like the induction phase of the Atkins diet but with a higher Carb in take. The induction phase tries to put the body in a ketosis state where your body burns fat. The difference with avg joes and pro athletes is that they can monitor their carb, protein, and calorie intake to stay at a perfect level. I think people get confused about the Low carb diet and think it means no carbs but the diet is about ingesting good carbs and removing sugar, process foods, and bad fats from your diet.

CrushAlot @ 8/13/2014 1:28 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:This is from an article about LeBron but does raise some concerns.
The reality? It all depends on just how he lost the weight, according to Nanci Guest, a sports nutrition expert who has worked with elite level amateur and professional athletes. If it’s the result of a low-carb or no carb diet, as has been suggested by ESPN reporter Brian Windhorst, the Cavaliers star could be setting himself up for trouble, says Guest.


“It’s unhealthy for athletes,” said Guest, a Toronto-based sport dietitian and PhD candidate studying genetics and high-performance athletes at the University of Toronto.


“There are some proponents out there that feel that if you stay on a high-fat diet long enough, that you can adapt to using fat as a primary fuel. It’s extremely risky, and more often than not, we see fatigue, we see a decrease in performance, immunity issues. Carbohydrates are an athlete’s best friend,” said Guest.


The reason? While carbohydrates might turn into extra, unwanted pounds on the body of your everyday couch potato, the body of an elite level athlete needs the energy that carbs provide.


“You look at someone like (swimmer Michael) Phelps, he’s able to go through 10,000 or 12,000 calories a day and 8,000 of those calories are purely because he’s burning them up as fuel in training. And 6,000 of that 8,000 would be carbohydrates,” said Guest. “It’s the gas in the gas tank. If you have a sport that needs less gas, you can eat less carbs, but you can’t go zero gas.”


http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball...

http://www.si.com/edge/2014/08/11/inside...


Los Angeles Lakers nutritionist Dr. Cate Shanahan also uses James’ low-carb lifestyle approach with her team, but she puts a different spin on it.

“The term 'low-carb diet' should really be substituted with the term 'low sugar diet,'” says Shanahan, who helped Dwight Howard reduce his carbohydrate intake and cut out candy bars. “In order for carbs to absorb into the blood stream, they turn into glucose—whole grain or not it’s going to go in as sugar.”....


Despite the possible dangers, Shanahan says that if James is successful with his low-carb approach, he “will be a monster” on the court next season. After watching athletes in the NBA, she says players’ energy fluctuations between the first and second halves are obvious, “performance plummets because the sugar burners are so pumped up on adrenaline, which drops drastically after halftime.” The best thing an athlete can do is to go through the metabolic shift induced by a low-carb diet.

“Everything that an athlete wants they can get by becoming an expert fat burner,” Shanahan says. “If he can do that, he won’t rely on adrenaline and the muscles will work much more efficiently.”

Interesting. There is a diet called Eat To Win where you eat 'good' carbs (i.e. whole grains) and through exercise the carbs burn the fat.
Nalod @ 8/13/2014 5:06 PM
........and then there was Eddy.
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