Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Melo will get more outside money when he's winning in NY. It really is that simple. His endorsements will increase along with his success on the court. I don't worry about how much we're paying him anyway. Phil wasn't worried so why should I worry? All that matters now is Melo having a successful year and the team winning games.
so because melo
A) has been a loser his entire nba career means that
This is just nonsense- repeating it over and over and over again doesn't make it true. After drafting him, the nuggets went from winning 17 games, to winning 43. Every year he was there they had a winning record, and every year he's been here he's had a winning record (apart from last seasons disaster)
Actually we've been pretty much .500 or below with exception to the 54win team
14-14
36-30 he missed like 6-7gms[Lin streak]
54-28
37-45
Let's repeat facts, if we're concerned with what's being repeated
Love the Lin streak inclusion. Those seven games were against some of the worst teams in the league. It came up so much that I used to know how many games under .500 that group was. Too bad Melo came back to help that team go 18-5 down the stretch, make the playoffs and get player of the month for April.
There's no point in overemphasizing any one streak or even season. Our record is roughly .500 in games Melo has played in.
I call this a repeated FACT!
F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Melo will get more outside money when he's winning in NY. It really is that simple. His endorsements will increase along with his success on the court. I don't worry about how much we're paying him anyway. Phil wasn't worried so why should I worry? All that matters now is Melo having a successful year and the team winning games.
so because melo
A) has been a loser his entire nba career means that
This is just nonsense- repeating it over and over and over again doesn't make it true. After drafting him, the nuggets went from winning 17 games, to winning 43. Every year he was there they had a winning record, and every year he's been here he's had a winning record (apart from last seasons disaster)
Actually we've been pretty much .500 or below with exception to the 54win team
14-14
36-30 he missed like 6-7gms[Lin streak]
54-28
37-45
Let's repeat facts, if we're concerned with what's being repeated
Love the Lin streak inclusion. Those seven games were against some of the worst teams in the league. It came up so much that I used to know how many games under .500 that group was. Too bad Melo came back to help that team go 18-5 down the stretch, make the playoffs and get player of the month for April.
There's no point in overemphasizing any one streak or even season. Our record is roughly .500 in games Melo has played in.
I call this a repeated FACT!
Can you continue to ignore the roughly .300 record we had for the 4-5 seasons before Melo was playing in games for us?
I call that repeated HATE!
knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Melo will get more outside money when he's winning in NY. It really is that simple. His endorsements will increase along with his success on the court. I don't worry about how much we're paying him anyway. Phil wasn't worried so why should I worry? All that matters now is Melo having a successful year and the team winning games.
so because melo
A) has been a loser his entire nba career means that
B) he doesn't get as much endorsement money therefore
C) he must make that much more money in salary
D) even if he stands to compromise the team from acquiring high-profile players that will help him be a winner?
lots of pretzels in somebody's diet
What exactly has durant won, a few more playoffs game, woop de damn doo..These sneaker deals are not just base on skills, there base on popularity...
I give JAY-z more of the credit than KD
there are champions. Then there are finalists and after finalists there are conference finalists. If you are a final 4 participant you are a success in the NBA. "Winning a few more playoff games" is weak sauce coming from you.
jrodmc wrote:F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Melo will get more outside money when he's winning in NY. It really is that simple. His endorsements will increase along with his success on the court. I don't worry about how much we're paying him anyway. Phil wasn't worried so why should I worry? All that matters now is Melo having a successful year and the team winning games.
so because melo
A) has been a loser his entire nba career means that
This is just nonsense- repeating it over and over and over again doesn't make it true. After drafting him, the nuggets went from winning 17 games, to winning 43. Every year he was there they had a winning record, and every year he's been here he's had a winning record (apart from last seasons disaster)
Actually we've been pretty much .500 or below with exception to the 54win team
14-14
36-30 he missed like 6-7gms[Lin streak]
54-28
37-45
Let's repeat facts, if we're concerned with what's being repeated
Love the Lin streak inclusion. Those seven games were against some of the worst teams in the league. It came up so much that I used to know how many games under .500 that group was. Too bad Melo came back to help that team go 18-5 down the stretch, make the playoffs and get player of the month for April.
There's no point in overemphasizing any one streak or even season. Our record is roughly .500 in games Melo has played in.
I call this a repeated FACT!
Can you continue to ignore the roughly .300 record we had for the 4-5 seasons before Melo was playing in games for us?
I call that repeated HATE!
You don't mortgage a future to go from .300 to .500
While leaving yourself a $200mil massive bill
smackeddog wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Melo will get more outside money when he's winning in NY. It really is that simple. His endorsements will increase along with his success on the court. I don't worry about how much we're paying him anyway. Phil wasn't worried so why should I worry? All that matters now is Melo having a successful year and the team winning games.
so because melo
A) has been a loser his entire nba career means that
This is just nonsense- repeating it over and over and over again doesn't make it true. After drafting him, the nuggets went from winning 17 games, to winning 43. Every year he was there they had a winning record, and every year he's been here he's had a winning record (apart from last seasons disaster)
I guess we have differing ideas of what winning and success mean. I believe any final four team is a success and defines winning, while you seem to look at jayvee season records as the true measure.
F500ONE wrote:jrodmc wrote:F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Melo will get more outside money when he's winning in NY. It really is that simple. His endorsements will increase along with his success on the court. I don't worry about how much we're paying him anyway. Phil wasn't worried so why should I worry? All that matters now is Melo having a successful year and the team winning games.
so because melo
A) has been a loser his entire nba career means that
This is just nonsense- repeating it over and over and over again doesn't make it true. After drafting him, the nuggets went from winning 17 games, to winning 43. Every year he was there they had a winning record, and every year he's been here he's had a winning record (apart from last seasons disaster)
Actually we've been pretty much .500 or below with exception to the 54win team
14-14
36-30 he missed like 6-7gms[Lin streak]
54-28
37-45
Let's repeat facts, if we're concerned with what's being repeated
Love the Lin streak inclusion. Those seven games were against some of the worst teams in the league. It came up so much that I used to know how many games under .500 that group was. Too bad Melo came back to help that team go 18-5 down the stretch, make the playoffs and get player of the month for April.
There's no point in overemphasizing any one streak or even season. Our record is roughly .500 in games Melo has played in.
I call this a repeated FACT!
Can you continue to ignore the roughly .300 record we had for the 4-5 seasons before Melo was playing in games for us?
I call that repeated HATE!
You don't mortgage a future to go from .300 to .500
While leaving yourself a $200mil massive bill
Oh no, that's right. You mortgaged the future of another 4-5 years of .300 ball.
What future, exactly? The one where you were getting to .600 ball and chips with Gallo and Moz and the Mayor?
The one where LeQ comes here? Where the Knicks draft the next Durant?
Continue to worry about Dolan's massive bills and cap space. This is the place where we paid ECurry $11 mil a season to find 1800 ways to strain a hammy.
jrodmc wrote:F500ONE wrote:jrodmc wrote:F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Melo will get more outside money when he's winning in NY. It really is that simple. His endorsements will increase along with his success on the court. I don't worry about how much we're paying him anyway. Phil wasn't worried so why should I worry? All that matters now is Melo having a successful year and the team winning games.
so because melo
A) has been a loser his entire nba career means that
This is just nonsense- repeating it over and over and over again doesn't make it true. After drafting him, the nuggets went from winning 17 games, to winning 43. Every year he was there they had a winning record, and every year he's been here he's had a winning record (apart from last seasons disaster)
Actually we've been pretty much .500 or below with exception to the 54win team
14-14
36-30 he missed like 6-7gms[Lin streak]
54-28
37-45
Let's repeat facts, if we're concerned with what's being repeated
Love the Lin streak inclusion. Those seven games were against some of the worst teams in the league. It came up so much that I used to know how many games under .500 that group was. Too bad Melo came back to help that team go 18-5 down the stretch, make the playoffs and get player of the month for April.
There's no point in overemphasizing any one streak or even season. Our record is roughly .500 in games Melo has played in.
I call this a repeated FACT!
Can you continue to ignore the roughly .300 record we had for the 4-5 seasons before Melo was playing in games for us?
I call that repeated HATE!
You don't mortgage a future to go from .300 to .500
While leaving yourself a $200mil massive bill
Oh no, that's right. You mortgaged the future of another 4-5 years of .300 ball.
What future, exactly? The one where you were getting to .600 ball and chips with Gallo and Moz and the Mayor?
The one where LeQ comes here? Where the Knicks draft the next Durant?
Continue to worry about Dolan's massive bills and cap space. This is the place where we paid ECurry $11 mil a season to find 1800 ways to strain a hammy.
Who said we had to keep Gallo, Chandler, and Moz for the future tenure?
My statement is one of principal ideology
The same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over again
Principle ideologies.
.500 + playoffs is just as sheehitty as .300 and the lottery.
Some folks deserve everything, all at once, RIGHT NOW, ALL THE TIME.
jrodmc wrote:Principle ideologies.
.500 + playoffs is just as sheehitty as .300 and the lottery. Some folks deserve everything, all at once, RIGHT NOW, ALL THE TIME.
Well if you have low expectations sure.
I just figured in Melo's greatness after the trade
We'd have experienced a Conference Finals or 2.
Maybe a Finals appearance because the price paid suggested so
gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:The same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over again
Because it's true
Accept and move on
By now everyone has formed their opinion, everyone knows everyone's opinion, it's been done to death. At this point no one is changing their mind, what's the point in just regurgitating exactly the same stuff?
These boards used to be fun- does anyone get much enjoyment from them anymore?
jrodmc wrote:F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Melo will get more outside money when he's winning in NY. It really is that simple. His endorsements will increase along with his success on the court. I don't worry about how much we're paying him anyway. Phil wasn't worried so why should I worry? All that matters now is Melo having a successful year and the team winning games.
so because melo
A) has been a loser his entire nba career means that
This is just nonsense- repeating it over and over and over again doesn't make it true. After drafting him, the nuggets went from winning 17 games, to winning 43. Every year he was there they had a winning record, and every year he's been here he's had a winning record (apart from last seasons disaster)
Actually we've been pretty much .500 or below with exception to the 54win team
14-14
36-30 he missed like 6-7gms[Lin streak]
54-28
37-45
Let's repeat facts, if we're concerned with what's being repeated
Love the Lin streak inclusion. Those seven games were against some of the worst teams in the league. It came up so much that I used to know how many games under .500 that group was. Too bad Melo came back to help that team go 18-5 down the stretch, make the playoffs and get player of the month for April.
There's no point in overemphasizing any one streak or even season. Our record is roughly .500 in games Melo has played in.
I call this a repeated FACT!
Can you continue to ignore the roughly .300 record we had for the 4-5 seasons before Melo was playing in games for us?
I call that repeated HATE!
Yes, you can since none of those players were part of the .500 team. We can ignore the .700 teams from the '90s also.
F500ONE wrote:jrodmc wrote:F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Melo will get more outside money when he's winning in NY. It really is that simple. His endorsements will increase along with his success on the court. I don't worry about how much we're paying him anyway. Phil wasn't worried so why should I worry? All that matters now is Melo having a successful year and the team winning games.
so because melo
A) has been a loser his entire nba career means that
This is just nonsense- repeating it over and over and over again doesn't make it true. After drafting him, the nuggets went from winning 17 games, to winning 43. Every year he was there they had a winning record, and every year he's been here he's had a winning record (apart from last seasons disaster)
Actually we've been pretty much .500 or below with exception to the 54win team
14-14
36-30 he missed like 6-7gms[Lin streak]
54-28
37-45
Let's repeat facts, if we're concerned with what's being repeated
Love the Lin streak inclusion. Those seven games were against some of the worst teams in the league. It came up so much that I used to know how many games under .500 that group was. Too bad Melo came back to help that team go 18-5 down the stretch, make the playoffs and get player of the month for April.
There's no point in overemphasizing any one streak or even season. Our record is roughly .500 in games Melo has played in.
I call this a repeated FACT!
Can you continue to ignore the roughly .300 record we had for the 4-5 seasons before Melo was playing in games for us?
I call that repeated HATE!
You don't mortgage a future to go from .300 to .500
While leaving yourself a $200mil massive bill
Yeah, .500 is the default, the average. You shouldn't have to blow all your cap space, give up all your players on rookie contracts, and give up picks just to be .500.
Well they didn't give up all of there rookie contracts and still could have had cap room if they would have made smarter decisions but they didn't.
smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:The same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over again
Because it's true
Accept and move on
By now everyone has formed their opinion, everyone knows everyone's opinion, it's been done to death. At this point no one is changing their mind, what's the point in just regurgitating exactly the same stuff?
These boards used to be fun- does anyone get much enjoyment from them anymore?
There are about 5 or 6 posters I enjoy talking with here. The others? I sometimes get sucked into replying to them and usually regret it later!
yellowboy90 wrote:Well they didn't give up all of there rookie contracts and still could have had cap room if they would have made smarter decisions but they didn't.
That's the point you took away? You don't get it that .500 is the default? You shouldn't be giving up cap space OR unprotected picks OR contributors on rookie contracts to get there - let alone ALL 3. Even if you were a .300 (JROD) or even .100, you should be able to get back to .500 in 4 years without giving up all of those 3.
It started with signing an uninsured Amare to $100M
Then trading every asset for Melo
Picking up Billips potion
Amnestying Billups not Amare
Signing Tyson
Mistreating Lin and letting him walk for nothing
Putting our eggs all on Raymond James Felton
Can't make this shit up
Go Hornets
Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Well they didn't give up all of there rookie contracts and still could have had cap room if they would have made smarter decisions but they didn't.
That's the point you took away? You don't get it that .500 is the default? You shouldn't be giving up cap space OR unprotected picks OR contributors on rookie contracts to get there - let alone ALL 3. Even if you were a .300 (JROD) or even .100, you should be able to get back to .500 in 4 years without giving up all of those 3.
Exactly.
It's easier to run from the truth or deflect back to .300 seasons almost a decade ago or talk about how much gallo and company sucks Eventhough they were moveable assets
gunsnewing wrote:It started with signing an uninsured Amare to $100M
Then trading every asset for Melo
Picking up Billips potion
Amnestying Billups not Amare
Signing Tyson
Mistreating Lin and letting him walk for nothing
Putting our eggs all on Raymond James FeltonCan't make this shit up
Go Hornets
It didn't really start with the Amar'e signing though- we've been making blunders for much longer than that! 
That stuffs all in the past though- I'm giving Phil the benefit of the doubt, and I'm hoping for a better season this year. I really enjoyed 2012-13, hated 2013-14,so I'm looking forward to seeing what we do- plus it's reassuring to know that if it all goes terribly wrong again, we actually have our draft pick, and most of the players are expiring or can be gotten rid of.
Quit grinding the axe, man and just sit back and enjoy the ride! This is a rare stress free season- if we do well, it helps us build a culture and if we suck we get a high draft pick and lots of cap space to get in new players.
gunsnewing wrote:It started with signing an uninsured Amare to $100M
Then trading every asset for Melo
Picking up Billips potion
Amnestying Billups not Amare
Signing Tyson
Mistreating Lin and letting him walk for nothing
Putting our eggs all on Raymond James FeltonCan't make this shit up
Go Hornets
One first round pick, two very injury prone guys and Moz.
