Knicks · Wojo reporting Clips/Bucks trade centered around Jared Dudley (page 1)
smackeddog wrote:Finestrg wrote:Wow. Kinda pisses me off -- Milwaukee wanted JR Smith. They were one of the only teams to court him when he was a FA and offer him a contract I believe. Then there was talk early this off-season they were after him again. Even talk that Jason Kidd wanted Smith. You wanna laugh -- Smith respected Kidd. If there's anybody that could've gotten the best outta JR Smith, it would've been Jason Kidd...Would've been a perfect opportunity to rid ourselves of this dude, wipe his contract off the books for next yr (you know he's opting in -- there's no doubt about it) and bring back something decent in return -- I gotta believe we could've gotten just as good a package back in return because Smith's arguably a better player than Dudley. Smith's obviously more talented, younger by a year or 2 and on a similar contract...If Milwaukee came calling with an offer and we never even listened or came up with a counteroffer, we're NUTS.JR is likely to opt out for a long term contract
Highly debatable -- Yeah, he's talented--never gonna take that away from him but come on--this guy's one of the most immature dudes to ever play a professional sport, bar none. Not only that, he's lazy as all get out and so weak-minded it's disgusting. He's let us down in big spots more times than I care to remember. Still, I bet like a lot of people on this board, there's plenty of people in our front office that continue to laud the guy, thinking he's way more valuable than he really is. Yeah, he's capable of having a good night, even a good year, but there's just as much of a possibility that he mails in another poor season coupled with numerous distractions both on and off the court. And if that's the case, F it -- he'll just opt-in for the $6.5mm and we'll be on the hook with this clown all over again for an additional year--that's his safety net. Ever hear JR discuss last year, how guys just mailed it in, himself included? BEYOND IRRITATING! DISGUSTING!! 
With the SG depth we have (and we even had Wayne Ellington in the mix not too long ago--a very decent player), if I had an opportunity to rid myself of this guy and wipe his contract off the books, I'd jump at the chance. Even if we didn't have proper depth at the position lined up--I'd still look to move him, even in a salary dump scenario. There are plenty of guys out there that could fill his spot admirably--even cheap, quality alternatives on an interim basis: Terrence Williams, Pat Christopher, BJ Young.. Put a guy like that together with whoever we have leftover (Shump, THJ, Thanasis), that's more than enough SG depth...We don't need this Prima Donna. This guy's no star. He's a fraud...Something tells me we had multiple opportunities to put something together with Milwaukee and Phil passed. It's disappointing..
F500ONE wrote:Crush's post says the Bucks gave upDelfino-Prospect-1st
The Clips gave up Dudley and 1st[2017 protected]Which means in order to dump Smith we had to
Give up a 1st to possibly catch Bucks attentionKeep in mind J.R. makes double what these guys are making
J.R. is also way better of a player than Dudley. I don't think Jax wants to dump JR but he might eventually trade him for an asset. I doubt he gives up anything to dump him. I'm starting to sound like NIx.
This could open the door for an acquisition of Middleton though at a low price which I like. Then again they could very well just cut Dudley. Dudley would then go to the spurs and flourish. lol.
yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:Crush's post says the Bucks gave upDelfino-Prospect-1st
The Clips gave up Dudley and 1st[2017 protected]Which means in order to dump Smith we had to
Give up a 1st to possibly catch Bucks attentionKeep in mind J.R. makes double what these guys are making
J.R. is also way better of a player than Dudley. I don't think Jax wants to dump JR but he might eventually trade him for an asset. I doubt he gives up anything to dump him. I'm starting to sound like NIx.
This could open the door for an acquisition of Middleton though at a low price which I like. Then again they could very well just cut Dudley. Dudley would then go to the spurs and flourish. lol.
It's never a question of talent with J.R.
It's what between the ears
I doubt Phil can dump his salary
While acquiring great value for him
Btw let's say it's Middleton, who I wouldn't mind nabbing
Is J.R. better than Middleton
You see what I did there
F500ONE wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:Crush's post says the Bucks gave upDelfino-Prospect-1st
The Clips gave up Dudley and 1st[2017 protected]Which means in order to dump Smith we had to
Give up a 1st to possibly catch Bucks attentionKeep in mind J.R. makes double what these guys are making
J.R. is also way better of a player than Dudley. I don't think Jax wants to dump JR but he might eventually trade him for an asset. I doubt he gives up anything to dump him. I'm starting to sound like NIx.
This could open the door for an acquisition of Middleton though at a low price which I like. Then again they could very well just cut Dudley. Dudley would then go to the spurs and flourish. lol.
It's never a question of talent with J.R.
It's what between the ears
I doubt Phil can dump his salaryWhile acquiring great value for him
Btw let's say it's Middleton, who I wouldn't mind nabbingIs J.R. better than Middleton
You see what I did there
JR will opt out, he's underpaid and at the very least will want a longer deal (look at what Meeks and Young got this offseason. Heck, even Ben Gordon got $9 mil over two years).
Don't get why people keep saying we should trade him to the Bucks- the Buck have OJ Mayo, or are people forgetting that? They'd probably trade OJ Mayo for JR, but they would never take on both of them.
smackeddog wrote:F500ONE wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:F500ONE wrote:Crush's post says the Bucks gave upDelfino-Prospect-1st
The Clips gave up Dudley and 1st[2017 protected]Which means in order to dump Smith we had to
Give up a 1st to possibly catch Bucks attentionKeep in mind J.R. makes double what these guys are making
J.R. is also way better of a player than Dudley. I don't think Jax wants to dump JR but he might eventually trade him for an asset. I doubt he gives up anything to dump him. I'm starting to sound like NIx.
This could open the door for an acquisition of Middleton though at a low price which I like. Then again they could very well just cut Dudley. Dudley would then go to the spurs and flourish. lol.
It's never a question of talent with J.R.
It's what between the ears
I doubt Phil can dump his salaryWhile acquiring great value for him
Btw let's say it's Middleton, who I wouldn't mind nabbingIs J.R. better than Middleton
You see what I did thereJR will opt out, he's underpaid and at the very least will want a longer deal (look at what Meeks and Young got this offseason. Heck, even Ben Gordon got $9 mil over two years).
Don't get why people keep saying we should trade him to the Bucks- the Buck have OJ Mayo, or are people forgetting that? They'd probably trade OJ Mayo for JR, but they would never take on both of them.
Did the Bucks even offer anything for JR? Did they ever even express interest? Honest question, I dont remember reading anything other than wishful thinking that they may want him now that Kidd was in the fold. But anyway I agree with you 1000%.
JR is definitely going to opt out. Some team out there will give him a multi year deal that will be more cumulatively than whatever he will get in his final year here. He's going to play his ass off this year and make this happen. Just as, shockingly, he won 6 MOTY in contract year.
As smackeddog just said, Ben Gordon (BEN GORDON!) one the biggest malcontents in the NBA just got a $9 million multiyear guaranteed contract. Let me repeat that, BEN F'ING GORDON! And not only is he a malcontent but he also happens to be washed up. Some team will throw money at JR Smith, especially if he has a good season. Its almost inevitable. These GM's cant help themselves.