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GS is just far better than Houston.

Back in the day Jason terry would have filled that role but he is just a spot up shooter.

yellowboy90 wrote:Houston could really use Dragic off the bench. I am not sure he would want to do that but they need a PG that can shoot like a two but also take over ball handling duties and move Harden off the ball. Harden may continue to struggle in the playoffs if he doesn't get another combo guard.

Back in the day Jason terry would have filled that role but he is just a spot up shooter.

Calderon awaits! Hopefully they luck out on Dragic and trade for Calderon as plan b- gives that team a shooter, playmaker and someone who isn't an a**hole.

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Season ending?

smackeddog wrote:

Nalod wrote:some articles floating around hoops hype giving Michael Conley props as the true reason for Memphis success.

This kid was allowed to develop. he was slow to do so but patience was rewarded. Relating to the knicks, I hope the "Cultural Revolution" allows this within the organization. I don't expect fans to. I mean some were already giving grades to Cleanthony after his first week back!!!

Atlanta with Teague and Memphis with Conley are just two examples of patience we have seen at the PG position.

Yep, I remember when people were laughing about the contract the Griz gave him years ago- they ain't laughing now!

They laughed when they hired the Metrics journalist.
They laughed when they canned Hollins.
They laughed when they hired Joerger.
They laughed when they traded Pau.
They laughed when they signed ZBo.

It was all "Stupid same old Memphis!!!!"

They laughed, We are crying.

Nalod wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Nalod wrote:some articles floating around hoops hype giving Michael Conley props as the true reason for Memphis success.

This kid was allowed to develop. he was slow to do so but patience was rewarded. Relating to the knicks, I hope the "Cultural Revolution" allows this within the organization. I don't expect fans to. I mean some were already giving grades to Cleanthony after his first week back!!!

Atlanta with Teague and Memphis with Conley are just two examples of patience we have seen at the PG position.

Yep, I remember when people were laughing about the contract the Griz gave him years ago- they ain't laughing now!

They laughed when they hired the Metrics journalist.
They laughed when they canned Hollins.
They laughed when they hired Joerger.
They laughed when they traded Pau.
They laughed when they signed ZBo.

It was all "Stupid same old Memphis!!!!"

They laughed, We are crying.

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Season ending?

Dude has done an incredible job putting himself back together again but I wonder if he won't just retire and be done!
Thats the 25million dollar question.

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NYKBocker wrote:

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Season ending?

Ouch. Seems like it would be. Especially if he wants to be in top form next year when they have a better team.

Every since about 2004

He showed signs he was starting to break down

Although he played heavy minutes/gms it was known

He was playing on some bad wheels as he talked about it several offseasons

Bone Broth or as we non hipsters call it Soup

Has nothing on Red Wine I guess

I guess all those trips to Germany or wherever he was

Going to get his blood spinned for his knees was a tad Tuff Legend story

Was it Science, was it the Herbs or maybe just maybe

Kobe you're human like everyone else and Father Time is Still undefeated, always will be

dk7th wrote:reggie miller and tnt announcing team crapping on the knicks lol

It's embarrassing he and Kobe are starting

The league itself should feel ashamed

It's not like these guys were Durant or WBrook

Hurt and having near career yrs but they are TRASH and their team is TRASH

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:reggie miller and tnt announcing team crapping on the knicks lol

It's embarrassing he and Kobe are starting

The league itself should feel ashamed

It's not like these guys were Durant or WBrook

Hurt and having near career yrs but they are TRASH and their team is TRASH

"the league" by its nature is shameless because it is a business first and foremost. the sense of perspective has been completely lost. yes, stern helped rescue the league on the backs of johnson and bird and then jordan, but the level of pandering that goes on has perverted the enterprise.

the all-star voting process is completely in the hands of the fans, who to my mind are basically the same sorts of people that get mesmerized by professional wrestling, suspending disbelief in order to be entertained. shameless but hey haystacks calhoun and bruno sammartino never get old.

moreover, the game is an exhibition and there's no stake in it for anyone, unless you are trying to "build your brand." completely meaningless.

dk7th wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:reggie miller and tnt announcing team crapping on the knicks lol

It's embarrassing he and Kobe are starting

The league itself should feel ashamed

It's not like these guys were Durant or WBrook

Hurt and having near career yrs but they are TRASH and their team is TRASH

"the league" by its nature is shameless because it is a business first and foremost. the sense of perspective has been completely lost. yes, stern helped rescue the league on the backs of johnson and bird and then jordan, but the level of pandering that goes on has perverted the enterprise.

the all-star voting process is completely in the hands of the fans, who to my mind are basically the same sorts of people that get mesmerized by professional wrestling, suspending disbelief in order to be entertained. shameless but hey haystacks calhoun and bruno sammartino never get old.

moreover, the game is an exhibition and there's no stake in it for anyone, unless you are trying to "build your brand." completely meaningless.

Whoo since you used the wrestling references I have one for you

Yeah the All-Star game for one pudgy jabroni phony balony

Is the Countdown 2 Shutdown, as soon as the game clock hit zeros

All Systems off although he doesn't have the tanking mentality[shrugging shoulders]

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:reggie miller and tnt announcing team crapping on the knicks lol

It's embarrassing he and Kobe are starting

The league itself should feel ashamed

It's not like these guys were Durant or WBrook

Hurt and having near career yrs but they are TRASH and their team is TRASH

"the league" by its nature is shameless because it is a business first and foremost. the sense of perspective has been completely lost. yes, stern helped rescue the league on the backs of johnson and bird and then jordan, but the level of pandering that goes on has perverted the enterprise.

the all-star voting process is completely in the hands of the fans, who to my mind are basically the same sorts of people that get mesmerized by professional wrestling, suspending disbelief in order to be entertained. shameless but hey haystacks calhoun and bruno sammartino never get old.

moreover, the game is an exhibition and there's no stake in it for anyone, unless you are trying to "build your brand." completely meaningless.

Whoo since you used the wrestling references I have one for you

Yeah the All-Star game for one pudgy jabroni phony balony

Is the Countdown 2 Shutdown, as soon as the game clock hit zeros

All Systems off although he doesn't have the tanking mentality[shrugging shoulders]

so you'll be watching the game then? i thought we were going to be rehearsing brown sugar and let it bleed?

dk7th wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:reggie miller and tnt announcing team crapping on the knicks lol

It's embarrassing he and Kobe are starting

The league itself should feel ashamed

It's not like these guys were Durant or WBrook

Hurt and having near career yrs but they are TRASH and their team is TRASH

"the league" by its nature is shameless because it is a business first and foremost. the sense of perspective has been completely lost. yes, stern helped rescue the league on the backs of johnson and bird and then jordan, but the level of pandering that goes on has perverted the enterprise.

the all-star voting process is completely in the hands of the fans, who to my mind are basically the same sorts of people that get mesmerized by professional wrestling, suspending disbelief in order to be entertained. shameless but hey haystacks calhoun and bruno sammartino never get old.

moreover, the game is an exhibition and there's no stake in it for anyone, unless you are trying to "build your brand." completely meaningless.

Whoo since you used the wrestling references I have one for you

Yeah the All-Star game for one pudgy jabroni phony balony

Is the Countdown 2 Shutdown, as soon as the game clock hit zeros

All Systems off although he doesn't have the tanking mentality[shrugging shoulders]

so you'll be watching the game then? i thought we were going to be rehearsing brown sugar and let it bleed?

Man how long are we gonna keep livin this dream

I don't wanna to be known for some App on a Mac OS

I wanna make it big, we've held down the city blocks for so long

Should be on a world tour playin on stages before the rages

Maybe it's time we take the Player, Benny Mardones, Toto, posters down

In the Gee-Rodge////// but man we belong to the city, this city is ours

Concrete under our feet, it's in our blood, it's in our roots

We're the men of the streets, I'm picking up a Sax up north

Let's play Jed's tonight, the hole in the wall corner bar

We already have the song picked out

yellowboy90 wrote:Shump made his Cavs debut tonight. 75-40 at the half. I still do not think Love is going to be happy as the 4th offensive option. He might be down to 5th with Moz being a main screener in the PnR.

That is the thing about basketball

For a team to win, players should sacrifice for the better of the team, because WINS are more important than personal numbers
And that was one of the reasons why GS decided to give the max extension to Klay Thompson this summer past summer rather than playing the wait game and possibly even save themselves money (if Klay gets a major surgery/injury)

Think about it, he would have been a RFA NEXT sesason, so they didn't technically did not have to extend him, they would not have lossed anything had they waited, as they had the abiity to match any offer he gets and if he did sign one, it would be less than what he is getting now

Instead they decided to give him the extension earlier rather than wait it out, WHY?
So Klay didn't have to worry about generating STATs to justify getting a MAX contract and concentrate on Win's for the better of the team....

Now back to Love,
Yes, his game has to sacrifice, however, MosGoV is also getting those looks in the PnR situation because the other players must stick to their man if they can shoot, certainly the PF who defends Love cannot help or it would result in a wide open 3pter
Now, as Bosh said, playing with Lebron would be a lot different from playing on The Twolves
He will have to adjust and to do OTHER things like crashing for boards, setting picks off the ball, making cuts every now and then, DEFENSE etc...

So why does Love care, with his own injury concerns, the slow start Cleveland started with, the numbers are down when Love plays with Lebron, and Love also wants a MAX deal AFTER NEXT YEAR
He wants to maximize his opportunity and follow what Lebron wants to do

While numbers/stats should not count when playing basketball
Numbers/STATs do count when GM's are using it against you for leverage/contract talks, especially in smaller market teams and players in the 30+ age, especially with injury concerns
CA surely understood this as he did nothing but manipulated his numbers throughout his career and even more under Woodson's "system"
CA did not care even when his team mates not happy, because his team mates realized not only was it not working but it was/will hurt their contract negatations....

I am saying it now, they might be able to get a MAX contract after this year

But

NEITHER Lebron or Kevin Love is worth a MAX contract for 5years AFTER the next CBA, which is projected to be 30m +

Time will tell....

it is an exhibition game however if fans cant even rig the system or if they did, this is the best they could do?? they should dump the mid season stuff, same for nhl and mlb.