Splat wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:
They just gave away a 2nd round pick without getting anything back.
What am I missing here?
If the outcome is Wear gets his roster spot, couldn't that have been achieved simply by waiving Outlaw?
So the only value of the trade is saving $3M in exchange for a 2nd round pick?
I guess Phil must think they can easily buy 2nd round picks whenever they need them. Why hold on to them then? Huh?
By 2019, we should all be sippin on championship bubbly.
knickscity wrote:Splat wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:
They just gave away a 2nd round pick without getting anything back.
What am I missing here?
If the outcome is Wear gets his roster spot, couldn't that have been achieved simply by waiving Outlaw?
So the only value of the trade is saving $3M in exchange for a 2nd round pick?
I guess Phil must think they can easily buy 2nd round picks whenever they need them. Why hold on to them then? Huh?
By 2019, we should all be sippin on championship bubbly.
That,
or
rotting like Season 5 corpses on The Walking Dead
knickscity wrote:Splat wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:
They just gave away a 2nd round pick without getting anything back.
What am I missing here?
If the outcome is Wear gets his roster spot, couldn't that have been achieved simply by waiving Outlaw?
So the only value of the trade is saving $3M in exchange for a 2nd round pick?
I guess Phil must think they can easily buy 2nd round picks whenever they need them. Why hold on to them then? Huh?
By 2019, we should all be sippin on championship bubbly.
i hope so but people have been saying that for 15 years and we end up sucking lol
fishmike wrote:F500ONE wrote:We just need TripleThreat to clear all of this upI'm sure he has a valid explanation for the GOLD
Phil just gave away for nothing
Was he talking about giving away future first rounders or second? I do believe there is a difference in the two.
There's a difference in what
Bargs makes and Outlaw correct
There's a difference in cutting a player
And acquiring one who becomes serviceable breaking the rotation correct
I'll wait
StarksEwing1 wrote:knickscity wrote:Splat wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:
They just gave away a 2nd round pick without getting anything back.
What am I missing here?
If the outcome is Wear gets his roster spot, couldn't that have been achieved simply by waiving Outlaw?
So the only value of the trade is saving $3M in exchange for a 2nd round pick?
I guess Phil must think they can easily buy 2nd round picks whenever they need them. Why hold on to them then? Huh?
By 2019, we should all be sippin on championship bubbly.
i hope so but people have been saying that for 15 years and we end up sucking lol
I hear things are different now.
knicks1248 wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:BRIGGS wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:I'm surprised Moultrie didn't work out in Philly. He was a high motor guy at Miss St. Scored well and rebounded too.
Yeah hes a guy who actually played pretty well his 1st year and did not play much last year. He's got some skills and hes tall--but I don't think we got him to keep him.
We've already cut him according to twitter
Yep and I guess the Owner is communicating
To the President "he cares about his money"
There goes the "it's not your money it's Dolans
Our owner is worth billions, what's the big deal"
Also with trading pick(s) I said get a serviceable player back
Not cut him before the ink dries
So far we lifted the protection on 2nd rounder back to Sac
Traded essentially 2 2nd rounders to Philly
Travis Outlaw proved he had near 3 2nd round pick trade value?
Am I missing something here
how high do you expect that 2nd round pick to be 5 yrs from now,when hopefully the knicks will be coming off there 2nd championship run, and the cap will be close to 90 mill.
Also i just took a brief look at the last 4 drafts, there is about 8 players total taking in the 2nd round that are still in the NBA today.
Okay let's go with the theory we'll be bad come 2018-2019
Our run only last a couple yrs
Remember I said anchor a 1st with Bargnani's $12mil
If we'll be bad then the 1st could very well be high
As would the 2nd rounder
If you say we'd be good in contention the 1st rounder is therefore low
Wouldn't crack rotation to help compete as wouldn't the 2nd
But the 2nd rounders in this case proves Phil thinks we're going to be good
Otherwise why throw them away with Outlaw
So take your pick in explaining the difference and make it come out smelling like roses
Andrew wrote:Knicks get a trade exception too right?
Yeah we do, which is the only bonus here
knickscity wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:knickscity wrote:Splat wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:
They just gave away a 2nd round pick without getting anything back.
What am I missing here?
If the outcome is Wear gets his roster spot, couldn't that have been achieved simply by waiving Outlaw?
So the only value of the trade is saving $3M in exchange for a 2nd round pick?
I guess Phil must think they can easily buy 2nd round picks whenever they need them. Why hold on to them then? Huh?
By 2019, we should all be sippin on championship bubbly.
i hope so but people have been saying that for 15 years and we end up sucking lol
I hear things are different now.
i do have more faith in Phil than the other clowns we have had
phil already dumping assets for the next gm lol...
The trade basically comes out to the hope is Wear becoming better than the two 2nd rounders given up.
knickscity wrote:The trade basically comes out to the hope is Wear becoming better than the two 2nd rounders given up.
Not really because they could have just cut Outlaw and kept Wear. It was a business transaction to save money and free up a space.
yellowboy90 wrote:knickscity wrote:The trade basically comes out to the hope is Wear becoming better than the two 2nd rounders given up.
Not really because they could have just cut Outlaw and kept Wear. It was a business transaction to save money and free up a space.
I was talking about the on the court value. the business side is irrelevant to me.
F500ONE wrote:Andrew wrote:Knicks get a trade exception too right?
Yeah we do, which is the only bonus here
We now have 2. One for 3.7mil one for 3mil.
Its possible this is a move in preparation for another move.
Nothing I love more than giving away draft picks for nothing
yellowboy90 wrote:knickscity wrote:The trade basically comes out to the hope is Wear becoming better than the two 2nd rounders given up.
Not really because they could have just cut Outlaw and kept Wear. It was a business transaction to save money and free up a space.
Dolan pinchin them pennies No
"Ridiculous Contract" Jeremy Lin style
Don't no one tell him he got billions as if it's all that matters
He wants billions and pocket change too
newyorknewyork wrote:F500ONE wrote:Andrew wrote:Knicks get a trade exception too right?
Yeah we do, which is the only bonus here
We now have 2. One for 3.7mil one for 3mil.
Its possible this is a move in preparation for another move.
The backlash is who we sign or trade
To fill those exception slots
Once filled Dolan's check book might bounce
Not sure if good ideay this year
But by next year depends on how our cap looks
I guess we'll have to see how it plays out
If the Knicks waive outlaw his money still goes against the cap right?
EnySpree wrote:If the Knicks waive outlaw his money still goes against the cap right?
Yes it would but that's why
You have good execs in place and do what
Mavs did with J.J. Berea, you buy Outlaw out
To get the figure to a manageable number, to lower cap and tax hold
What you don't do is leverage picks against current costs
Not in case the dumpage is in the form of Amar'e-Bargs-J.R.
Because by 2018-2019 dollars to donuts the price for picks will rise
I think the going rate for second round picks say in the range of 40s
It's $1mil cash plus what you sign them for
Any higher you're talking $1.5mil to $3mil
They're probably going to modify cash considerations
On trades in the new CBA, either duplicate the escrow value or increase it
knickscity wrote:The trade basically comes out to the hope is Wear becoming better than the two 2nd rounders given up.
I thought it was one pick and the dreaded right to swap
second round picks?
CrushAlot wrote:knickscity wrote:The trade basically comes out to the hope is Wear becoming better than the two 2nd rounders given up.
I thought it was one pick and the dreaded right to swap second round picks?
Don't forget the protection lifted
On the second round pick Sac owned from us Top 37 2016
As it was relinquished to get the good locker room guy
Outlaw who couldn't beat out an out of noWEAR body
