smackeddog wrote:So you're judging the trade when Calderon and the two rookies haven't even played a regular season minute yet, based on 4 games of Tyson, and 4 games of Dalambert and Larkin (Both of whom have played okay). Do you honestly think now is the best, most accurate time to judge the trade?
Hey fans wanted Larkin's option picked after
The Cleveland win, dat's how we roll round heya
Nalod wrote:We got Clearanthony, Jose and Sam.Briggs, your a bright guy but it seems like you make lots of recommendations based on each game you see.
There is a big picture. How big? Bigger than your daily take aways.
One pays a price to rid themselves of Felton as well.
I'm sure the consensus would be 100% in agreement that having the human version of a rotting wheel of Roquefort cheese named Raymond Felton around would be worth it just to have the greatness of Tyson still here.
Am I right or what?
F500ONE wrote:Dagger wrote:Screw the legend of Tyson. He was crap the last few years and he's still crap.
It's unfortunate we're still stuck with
Crap from the last few yrs
Can't wait til those legends are long gone too
Don't worry.
5 years isn't as long as it may seem.
And continue to pray
some team wants our crap legend
only 4 years from now.
jrodmc wrote:F500ONE wrote:Dagger wrote:Screw the legend of Tyson. He was crap the last few years and he's still crap.
It's unfortunate we're still stuck with
Crap from the last few yrs
Can't wait til those legends are long gone too
Don't worry.
5 years isn't as long as it may seem.
And continue to pray
some team wants our crap legend
only 4 years from now.
Once a Knick always a Legend the standard unmatched
F500ONE wrote:
Once a Knick always a Legend the standard unmatched
Jerome Jordan salutes you sir!
Splat wrote:F500ONE wrote:
Once a Knick always a Legend the standard unmatched
Jerome Jordan salutes you sir!
Did you say BROOKLYN'S IN DA HOUSE!
Nalod approved
BRIGGS wrote:What a nasty downgrade this has turned out to be. This entire trade may be 1 that makes I Thomas trades look good.
Are you serious? This was supposed to be a downgrade. The value always was Calderon, Larkin, and draft picks (Early). How can you possbily gauge this before even getting back the most important piece. Dalembert has actually been decent, and so has Larkin. So even without Calderon in the picture, your second sentence is not accurate at all.
Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:What a nasty downgrade this has turned out to be. This entire trade may be 1 that makes I Thomas trades look good.
Are you serious? This was supposed to be a downgrade. The value always was Calderon, Larkin, and draft picks (Early). How can you possbily gauge this before even getting back the most important piece. Dalembert has actually been decent, and so has Larkin. So even without Calderon in the picture, your second sentence is not accurate at all.
the problem is that we are locked into Calderon and we did not pick up crack babys option.
So ... we are relying on Early?
I really like Early and was happy to be rid of Typhus ... lets see how it plays out.
mreinman wrote:Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:What a nasty downgrade this has turned out to be. This entire trade may be 1 that makes I Thomas trades look good.
Are you serious? This was supposed to be a downgrade. The value always was Calderon, Larkin, and draft picks (Early). How can you possbily gauge this before even getting back the most important piece. Dalembert has actually been decent, and so has Larkin. So even without Calderon in the picture, your second sentence is not accurate at all.
the problem is that we are locked into Calderon and we did not pick up crack babys option.
So ... we are relying on Early?
I really like Early and was happy to be rid of Typhus ... lets see how it plays out.
And don't forget Greek Freak II awaits in the wings
F500ONE wrote:Tyson is having a very good start As are the Mavs to say the least
Their offense is like a well oiled machine
They don't run TRIANGLE either and haven't
For well over a decade and they done nothing
But kick out 50 win season after 50 win season
Tyson and Dirk are the only Mavs from their chip team
And most of the players have only played
With each for a year or two or not at all
The Mavs are my pick to come out the West
There's nothing Phil can say to me, to justify
Thinking Dalembert is a fit for the triangle and not Tyson
I don't care that he traded Tyson away, I care about his reasoning
Oh and don't look now but we have one of the
Worst offenses in the entire NBA
I think you should look now, because we are top 10 in assist, 16th in fg %, 12th in overall offense efficiency..
Are going to spend a little time researching before you just post what you think
mreinman wrote:Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:What a nasty downgrade this has turned out to be. This entire trade may be 1 that makes I Thomas trades look good.
Are you serious? This was supposed to be a downgrade. The value always was Calderon, Larkin, and draft picks (Early). How can you possbily gauge this before even getting back the most important piece. Dalembert has actually been decent, and so has Larkin. So even without Calderon in the picture, your second sentence is not accurate at all.
the problem is that we are locked into Calderon and we did not pick up crack babys option.
So ... we are relying on Early?
I really like Early and was happy to be rid of Typhus ... lets see how it plays out.
I can see Calderon being around a long time. First as a stop gap floor general, later as a bench player and shooter. I think he opens some eyes when he starts getting burn
fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:What a nasty downgrade this has turned out to be. This entire trade may be 1 that makes I Thomas trades look good.
Are you serious? This was supposed to be a downgrade. The value always was Calderon, Larkin, and draft picks (Early). How can you possbily gauge this before even getting back the most important piece. Dalembert has actually been decent, and so has Larkin. So even without Calderon in the picture, your second sentence is not accurate at all.
the problem is that we are locked into Calderon and we did not pick up crack babys option.
So ... we are relying on Early?
I really like Early and was happy to be rid of Typhus ... lets see how it plays out.
I can see Calderon being around a long time. First as a stop gap floor general, later as a bench player and shooter. I think he opens some eyes when he starts getting burn
I hope. Its been a long time that we had a guard that can shoot.
fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:What a nasty downgrade this has turned out to be. This entire trade may be 1 that makes I Thomas trades look good.
Are you serious? This was supposed to be a downgrade. The value always was Calderon, Larkin, and draft picks (Early). How can you possbily gauge this before even getting back the most important piece. Dalembert has actually been decent, and so has Larkin. So even without Calderon in the picture, your second sentence is not accurate at all.
the problem is that we are locked into Calderon and we did not pick up crack babys option.
So ... we are relying on Early?
I really like Early and was happy to be rid of Typhus ... lets see how it plays out.
I can see Calderon being around a long time. First as a stop gap floor general, later as a bench player and shooter. I think he opens some eyes when he starts getting burn
I would not at all be surprised to see him here all three years in exactly that fashion. After not picking up Larkin's option, I expect Phil has plans to land the future PG and groom them with Jose sliding to backup when they are ready to start. Could be a draft pick or a signing, but I just feel in my gut that was and is the plan still.
Splat wrote:fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:What a nasty downgrade this has turned out to be. This entire trade may be 1 that makes I Thomas trades look good.
Are you serious? This was supposed to be a downgrade. The value always was Calderon, Larkin, and draft picks (Early). How can you possbily gauge this before even getting back the most important piece. Dalembert has actually been decent, and so has Larkin. So even without Calderon in the picture, your second sentence is not accurate at all.
the problem is that we are locked into Calderon and we did not pick up crack babys option.
So ... we are relying on Early?
I really like Early and was happy to be rid of Typhus ... lets see how it plays out.
I can see Calderon being around a long time. First as a stop gap floor general, later as a bench player and shooter. I think he opens some eyes when he starts getting burn
I would not at all be surprised to see him here all three years in exactly that fashion. After not picking up Larkin's option, I expect Phil has plans to land the future PG and groom them with Jose sliding to backup when they are ready to start. Could be a draft pick or a signing, but I just feel in my gut that was and is the plan still.
Brandon Knight throw the whole kitten caboodle at him?
F500ONE wrote:
Brandon Knight throw the whole kitten caboodle at him?
I'm not much of a guesser about future personnel moves, but my hunch is they already know who their top three options are.
Splat wrote:F500ONE wrote:
Brandon Knight throw the whole kitten caboodle at him?
I'm not much of a guesser about future personnel moves, but my hunch is they already know who their top three options are.
extend Melo for 2 more years (at a discount)
resign Bargs near max since as nix says, he is triangle cream with the most efficient mid range shot and pristine one on one defense.
Decline Larkin one more time just for mock kicks
mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:F500ONE wrote:
Brandon Knight throw the whole kitten caboodle at him?
I'm not much of a guesser about future personnel moves, but my hunch is they already know who their top three options are.
extend Melo for 2 more years (at a discount)
resign Bargs near max since as nix says, he is triangle cream with the most efficient mid range shot and pristine one on one defense.
Decline Larkin one more time just for mock kicks
There should be sign hung over Larkin's locker that says, "We did not extend you and this is a reminder that we still will not extend you so don't ask!"
Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:F500ONE wrote:
Brandon Knight throw the whole kitten caboodle at him?
I'm not much of a guesser about future personnel moves, but my hunch is they already know who their top three options are.
extend Melo for 2 more years (at a discount)
resign Bargs near max since as nix says, he is triangle cream with the most efficient mid range shot and pristine one on one defense.
Decline Larkin one more time just for mock kicks
There should be sign hung over Larkin's locker that says, "We did not extend you and this is a reminder that we still will not extend you so don't ask!"
the all new extension free zone in the bockeroom
knicks1248 wrote:F500ONE wrote:Tyson is having a very good start As are the Mavs to say the least
Their offense is like a well oiled machine
They don't run TRIANGLE either and haven't
For well over a decade and they done nothing
But kick out 50 win season after 50 win season
Tyson and Dirk are the only Mavs from their chip team
And most of the players have only played
With each for a year or two or not at all
The Mavs are my pick to come out the West
There's nothing Phil can say to me, to justify
Thinking Dalembert is a fit for the triangle and not Tyson
I don't care that he traded Tyson away, I care about his reasoning
Oh and don't look now but we have one of the
Worst offenses in the entire NBA
I think you should look now, because we are top 10 in assist, 16th in fg %, 12th in overall offense efficiency..
Are going to spend a little time researching before you just post what you think
Shhhhhhhh, he's on a roll.
And he told you not to look now.
Someday, Phil will write a book and explain his reasoning.
to all us unwashed fans.
restating why he would trade away
bad chemistry
And actually have the audacity
to get draft picks in return.
It's funny (not funny)
How the sombers on here
keep changing the goal markers.
We trade away the NBA premier trash PG
and a broken ex-DPOY locker room malignancy
for some cheap pieces and yoots
And we're still an irrationally run organization.
Stay tuned for the JR apologies
when he gets dumped for some more second rounders
and a nice cup of coffee.
knicks1248 wrote:F500ONE wrote:Tyson is having a very good start As are the Mavs to say the least
Their offense is like a well oiled machine
They don't run TRIANGLE either and haven't
For well over a decade and they done nothing
But kick out 50 win season after 50 win season
Tyson and Dirk are the only Mavs from their chip team
And most of the players have only played
With each for a year or two or not at all
The Mavs are my pick to come out the West
There's nothing Phil can say to me, to justify
Thinking Dalembert is a fit for the triangle and not Tyson
I don't care that he traded Tyson away, I care about his reasoning
Oh and don't look now but we have one of the
Worst offenses in the entire NBA
I think you should look now, because we are top 10 in assist, 16th in fg %, 12th in overall offense efficiency..
Are going to spend a little time researching before you just post what you think
88ppg<-Yuck
17th in FG%<-Yuck
12th in Turnovers<-Yuck
30th in FTA<-YUCKY UCKY UCK
23rd in PPS<-YUCK
22nd in FGA & FGM<-YUCK
Those are horrific numbers
It says our pace is trash and we don't maximize our possessions
The only things we're doing pretty well on
Shooting the 3 ball and hitting our free throws
Got anything else Alfalfa
Come on now. If Tyson has an all-star season, all that means is he is a bitch who took a giant salary here and didn't work for it. He has no place in NYC. And Ray Felton is just the worst. Good riddance to both of them. It is not like we got nothing back, so come on now.