Be interesting to see if we retain THJ. Does a brighter future always implye leaving the Knicks?
gunsnewing@ 11/5/2014 10:45 AM
Either JR or THJ will be traded. The one who makes the cut will be will be 5th man for years to come. Probably THJ
The real question is who is the Knicks Most Valuable Player and the answer is Iman Shumpert
Splat@ 11/5/2014 10:45 AM
Question doesn't work for me, because Shump is year 4 and Tim is year 2. Shump needs to put it together this season. Tim is being given the message his game is full of holes and needs to work on it to even be considered more than a prospect at this point.
Right now, Shump is a bigger factor regardless of their futures, but I wouldn't guess Tim cannot contribute more this season.
F500ONE@ 11/5/2014 10:46 AM
Give THJR the same carte blanche as Shump
Then come back and ask this question
Fans were slopping THJR nuts up back then
And if you Flip-Flop what they've done up
To this point no way opinions remain what they currently are
There isn't a more fickle group of fans anywhere in the world
mreinman@ 11/5/2014 10:47 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Either JR or THJ will be traded. The one who makes the cut will be will be 5th man for years to come. Probably THJ
The real question is who is the Knicks Most Valuable Player and the answer is Iman Shumpert
not its not ... you're funny though
mreinman@ 11/5/2014 10:48 AM
Splat wrote:Question doesn't work for me, because Shump is year 4 and Tim is year 2. Shump needs to put it together this season. Tim is being given the message his game is full of holes and needs to work on it to even be considered more than a prospect at this point.
Right now, Shump is a bigger factor regardless of their futures, but I wouldn't guess Tim cannot contribute more this season.
the question was simple ... who has a brighter future (long term)? Who will have the better career? etc ...
mreinman@ 11/5/2014 10:49 AM
F500ONE wrote:Give THJR the same carte blanche as Shump
Then come back and ask this question
Fans wer slopping THJR nuts up back then
And if you Flip-Flop what they've done up
To this point no way opinions remain what they currently are
There isn't a more fickle group of fans anywhere in the world
I am not crazy about either of them and never have been fickle about this.
F500ONE@ 11/5/2014 10:52 AM
mreinman wrote:I am not crazy about either of them and never have been fickle about this.
Neither am I but I have the
Eye test and the quotes to back this up
How this fan base has Heads-Tails on this
"Oh No We Can't Trade THJR for Kyle Lowry
They Can Have Felton and Shump but not THJR..."
lol
mreinman@ 11/5/2014 10:53 AM
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:I am not crazy about either of them and never have been fickle about this.
Neither am I but I have the
Eye test and the quotes to back this up
How this fan base has Heads-Tails on this
"Oh No We Can't Trade THJR for Kyle Lowry
They Can Have Felton and Shump but not THJR..."
lol
agree. knick fans are crazy and blind about our guys.
like some saying that spree and houston were better players than Melo.
There are lots of dumb stuff said based on emotion and attachment.f
Splat@ 11/5/2014 10:57 AM
mreinman wrote:
Splat wrote:Question doesn't work for me, because Shump is year 4 and Tim is year 2. Shump needs to put it together this season. Tim is being given the message his game is full of holes and needs to work on it to even be considered more than a prospect at this point.
Right now, Shump is a bigger factor regardless of their futures, but I wouldn't guess Tim cannot contribute more this season.
the question was simple ... who has a brighter future (long term)? Who will have the better career? etc ...
fishmike@ 11/5/2014 11:09 AM
I say Shump because although his offensive game is about as good as Amare's defense and rebounding he does do positive things on the court whether he is scoring or not. THjr literally needs to hit every shot to be a + player. He's so bad in every other facet it cracks me up how folks gush over him.
Vmart@ 11/5/2014 11:11 AM
I see absolutely no difference between Klay Thompson and THJ. They both have similar defense and they both can shoot only difference one is getting an opportunity to play regular minutes from the beginning.
Shump is doing well but he is very moody the real Shump who is he? Is he the guy who threw a hissy fit last year, or this current version going forward.
mreinman@ 11/5/2014 11:12 AM
fishmike wrote:I say Shump because although his offensive game is about as good as Amare's defense and rebounding he does do positive things on the court whether he is scoring or not. THjr literally needs to hit every shot to be a + player. He's so bad in every other facet it cracks me up how folks gush over him.
I agree with this.
Shump looks like he is developing brains. This will not help him finish at the rim or consistently hit his shot, but he has had a really calming effect on the team on both ends.
F500ONE@ 11/5/2014 11:13 AM
mreinman wrote:
fishmike wrote:I say Shump because although his offensive game is about as good as Amare's defense and rebounding he does do positive things on the court whether he is scoring or not. THjr literally needs to hit every shot to be a + player. He's so bad in every other facet it cracks me up how folks gush over him.
I agree with this.
Shump looks like he is developing brains. This will not help him finish at the rim or consistently hit his shot, but he has had a really calming effect on the team on both ends.
4yrs later
And had we traded him, we'd be discussing is
THJR better than J.R. Smith
Classic case of prisoners of the moment
mreinman@ 11/5/2014 11:15 AM
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
fishmike wrote:I say Shump because although his offensive game is about as good as Amare's defense and rebounding he does do positive things on the court whether he is scoring or not. THjr literally needs to hit every shot to be a + player. He's so bad in every other facet it cracks me up how folks gush over him.
I agree with this.
Shump looks like he is developing brains. This will not help him finish at the rim or consistently hit his shot, but he has had a really calming effect on the team on both ends.
4yrs later
And had we traded him, we'd be discussing is
THJR better than J.R. Smith
Classic case of prisoners of the moment
wish we traded him years ago (peak value) ... though maybe mda or woody ends up keeping their job.
jrodmc@ 11/5/2014 11:36 AM
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
fishmike wrote:I say Shump because although his offensive game is about as good as Amare's defense and rebounding he does do positive things on the court whether he is scoring or not. THjr literally needs to hit every shot to be a + player. He's so bad in every other facet it cracks me up how folks gush over him.
I agree with this.
Shump looks like he is developing brains. This will not help him finish at the rim or consistently hit his shot, but he has had a really calming effect on the team on both ends.
4yrs later
And had we traded him, we'd be discussing is
THJR better than J.R. Smith
Classic case of prisoners of the moment
wish we traded him years ago (peak value) ... though maybe mda or woody ends up keeping their job.
Right, and along with the idea of keeping Pringles and/or Woody, in that regime, we would have gotten back a Rudy Gay/Jamal Crawford type contract and sent along a few more draft picks with Shump and his wobbly knees at the time.
I'll take Phil and the way trades work out now, for 500 Alex.
mreinman@ 11/5/2014 10:15 PM
THJ has 1 rebound this season!!!
gunsnewing@ 11/5/2014 10:16 PM
mreinman wrote:THJ has 1 rebound this season!!!
GTFO
mreinman@ 11/5/2014 10:17 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
mreinman wrote:THJ has 1 rebound this season!!!
GTFO
Yup.
So basically, if he is not hitting most of his shots were phucked since he is horrible at everything else
TPercy@ 11/5/2014 10:20 PM
Honestly, Josh Smith is better than these guys combined.
mreinman@ 11/5/2014 10:21 PM
TPercy wrote:Honestly, Josh Smith is better than these guys combined.
