Knicks · What's The Team's Biggest Problem? (page 1)

But does anyone think if we added 1 player

Who isn't a point guard and not a Star

Could they change the team's course

Take for instance I believe if we had Kyle Korver

Even in place of Melo or Calderon for the matter

We'd be a better team

At least for this team is a problem and I'll state

The other lingering issue here

I'm going side bar but check this out

This act of his has gotten way past old

Notice what was said right after the team went 2-1

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/...

The energy is different this season, Anthony said. And that is one reason the team is off to a 2-1 start.

Carmelo Anthony said the Knicks' energy is different this season, and that's one reason the team has started 2-1.

"I think just overall, not pointing anything out, but just overall from day one last year the energy was just not right," Anthony said after practice on Monday. "This year, you could just feel the total difference stepping into this gym, talking to guys, talking to the staff, talking to the players. Everybody has a newfound energy so it's just a lot different now."

Fast Forward 4gms later and 4 consecutive losses

This is part of what was said after today's loss

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Every since Little Debbie opened his mouth

Front running like he usually does, we've lost and had

Maybe our worst stretch of play since

Phil knowing he has him here for 4yrs why doesn't Phil

Call him out for what he is and demand he man up and change

How he plays once and for all otherwise they need to discuss his future here

We don't have any PLAYER LEADERSHIP

Granted, we're not a very talented roster, but I've seen teams make a run deep into the playoffs based on cohesion more than talent.

That takes leadership.

Where is it coming from now? Shump mostly. Jose soon perhaps, but is he going to be a gimp that doesn't play much?

When your highest paid players don't have an ounce of leadership in their bones, you're going to have issues.

We have issues.

The only thing you can do is get leaders. And guys who understand the game to make sure the intellectual toddlers on the team can follow along.

Winners.

Guys with a champion mindset.

We don't have much of that. Yeah, Melo, blah, blah, blah. Spare me. He is is none of the above.

knickscity wrote:They dont score enough because their offense is primarily midrange. They dont defend as a team. The best players isnt playing like the best.

Also, Save for Amare every now and then, non consistent post presence what so ever...

Uptown wrote:

knickscity wrote:They dont score enough because their offense is primarily midrange. They dont defend as a team. The best players isnt playing like the best.

Also, Save for Amare every now and then, non consistent post presence what so ever...

So you think we need interior post presence

Who would be ideal IYO

IronWillGiroud wrote:just have to put it all in a barrel and mash it down a little bit, be patient

If you're talking about pickling the team until they are fermented and delicious, I suggest you consult this fellow before you do any more mashing.

TripleThreat wrote:

F500ONE wrote:But does anyone think if we added 1 player

Who isn't a point guard and not a Star

Could they change the team's course

When people discuss the Melo potential trade possibilities a few years ago, I think the focus was on the Bulls.

IMHO, the team the Knicks should have outright raped was the Kings.

It's too late now, but if you swapped DeMarcus Cousins and Melo and nothing else, the Knicks would instantly be a 7 seed. You can build around Cousins. Don't get me wrong, he has knucklehead issues, but a good GM would have read the tea leaves for Team USA, where they were headed, and the impact Coach K would have on him and cut a deal before that all went down.

When Masai Ujiri got to the Raptors, he was stuck with Rudy Gay and Andrea Bargnani. So who did he first try to rape in a trade? The Knicks and the Kings.

When in doubt, find the one team who might actually have a dumber front office/owner than you do ( pre Zen Master of course)

The NBA is a superstar driven league. The Knick at their core have the same problems that most other teams do that don't have a true franchise player - they desperately need a franchise player.

Look at the Colts, they have a drunk drugged out owner and a GM hamstrung by said drunk drugged out owner. But they have Andrew Luck. And with Luck, they will always have hope.

I think the Knicks ( mostly Dolan) believed Melo would be that guy. But he's not. The archetype is Tom Brady for sports and the farther you get from Brady, the less of a franchise player you are. Melo has nothing that Brady offers in terms of intangibles.

In the NBA, you need a true franchise player. Only a handful of teams have them and until that happens, you don't have much hope period.

You nailed it.
I instantly think Patrick and when Knick had hope.
Nothing since and no hope...
Melo is just another stopgap.

F500ONE wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knickscity wrote:They dont score enough because their offense is primarily midrange. They dont defend as a team. The best players isnt playing like the best.

Also, Save for Amare every now and then, non consistent post presence what so ever...

So you think we need interior post presence

Who would be ideal IYO

In order for the triangle to be really effective i think you have to have a legit post presence (See shaq & cartwright) Nothing we can do to secure a post presence during the season. We have to hope we can lure a legit big this summer. Its going to be tough to convince Gasol or Aldridge to leave better situatons to join us.

VCoug wrote:

Ha! Personally, I think a major problem with this team is that it's devoid of veteran leadership. Miss the days when we had JKidd, Kurt, Camby & Rasheed. One thing we do desperately need is to do in the offseason is sign some leaders for this team. Melo is a terrible leader- some people are leaders, some people aren't, and he isn't, and seems to have no interest in being one. That doesn't make him a villain or anything, but it does make me rethink who we're targeting as the main FA in the offseason. Back in the 90s we always seemed to have a team of men. Since then it feels like we've just had a bunch of overgrown kids (and I say that as an over grown kid myself- We have our place, just not on a Knicks basketball team!)

We shot 11 free throws last night to 36.

Near the trade deadline (Philly only pays 7m for STAT's salary but we still get a reset in team salaries/repeat tax offenders)
Move STAT to Philly to get a large trade exemption and acquire Tony Wroten, and possibly KJ McDaniels (or target him as a UFA on a multi year deal at about 2-2.5m per year)

1- possible assets to use, 2020 1st rounder or 2022 1st rounder
Tim Hardawy JR, Iman Shumpert, 1 2nd rounder, player exemption from Dallas trade of 3.6m to use for 1 player Tony Wroten, do not send cash, as we will need to buy picks this summer

2- it allows us to reset this year and possibly go back to over the tax next season (not as a repeat offender though)
target players that will teams will be looking to unload for just a trade exemption to clear salaries
Saving 60m for Dolan's pocket

RonRon wrote:We are missing talent...

Near the trade deadline (Philly only pays 7m for STAT's salary but we still get a reset in team salaries/repeat tax offenders)
Move STAT to Philly to get a large trade exemption and acquire Tony Wroten, and possibly KJ McDaniels (or target him as a UFA on a multi year deal at about 2-2.5m per year)

1- possible assets to use, 2020 1st rounder or 2022 1st rounder
Tim Hardawy JR, Iman Shumpert, 1 2nd rounder, player exemption from Dallas trade of 3.6m to use for 1 player Tony Wroten, do not send cash, as we will need to buy picks this summer

2- it allows us to reset this year and possibly go back to over the tax next season (not as a repeat offender though)
target players that will teams will be looking to unload for just a trade exemption to clear salaries
Saving 60m for Dolan's pocket

It is almost impossible to fit all the wholes we have with our needs and our limited salary to spend
That is where I think we should send STAT to Philly, with the highest price listed above in the earlier post

We have the early bird rights to Cole ALdrich, so we can give him a starting contract of over 5m to make us go over the cap (while his cap hold is only for the vet min)
In order to have the FULL MLE instead of the Bi Annual Exemption (which would be a little under 3m)
In addition, we need to have the full MLE, possibly divide it to 2 players, possibly 3 (like use 1m and raises for Adenkentokempo with a 3year deal)
While targetting 2 solid players with the rest of it, which would be about 5m (with raises) on 2 talents