F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:hard to catch and shoot effectively without good guards and guard penetration.Melo's is deadly at the 3 when catching and shooting. Who is creating that opportunity?
Shumpert
Is this sarcasm? While his play has improved, Shump hasn't demonstrated anything to show that he is capable of being a facilitator in this league, or any league for that matter.
we need another lock down defender.
Kobe and Jordan were surrounded with guy who could play without the ball/catch and shoot; as well as guys who could rebound the ball. Exactly the two missing ingredients of this current Knicks roster.
Some role players
Gereld Green
Danny Green
KJ McDaniels
Tenacious
Randy Foye (PG/SG has a team option)
Tony Wroten (if we do sent STAT to Philly for a large trade exemption by this deadline)
Chris Copeland at backup PF, stretch PF, maybe even Center at times to cause mismatches
Hope JR just opts out
Tim Hardaway gets traded for a HIGH, has the highest trade value of all of our SG's
Iman will has a price range that likely will exceed what we could pay him
With the trade exemtion to Philly, consider players like
Kobe Bryant
Josh Smith at PF/C, could possibly even deal him for Calderon and a sign and trade for Iman
David Lee
but
AFTER we build our team and use the MLE (likely on 2 players or so)
RonRon wrote:Some role playersGereld Green
Danny Green
KJ McDaniels
Tenacious
Randy Foye (PG/SG has a team option)
Tony Wroten (if we do sent STAT to Philly for a large trade exemption by this deadline)
Chris Copeland at backup PF, stretch PF, maybe even Center at times to cause mismatches
Hope JR just opts out
Tim Hardaway gets traded for a HIGH, has the highest trade value of all of our SG's
Iman will has a price range that likely will exceed what we could pay him
With the trade exemtion to Philly, consider players like
Kobe Bryant
Josh Smith at PF/C, could possibly even deal him for Calderon and a sign and trade for Iman
David Lee
but
AFTER we build our team and use the MLE (likely on 2 players or so)
U r not suggesting that we trade for the scrubs u've mentioned above, r u?
BRIGGS wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:C We need a stabilized two way big capable of giving us 20-10-2 who is 6-10 250++ a C/PF who can play both ways and give us post scoring post defense and rebounding.PF--I think Carmelo can be the stretch PF for 32 minutes a game
SF If Shumpert can play like this--we already have our man
SG Id like to think that Timmy H can develop into this role and at worst 6th man. But that means developing passing skills and more of an all around game. But Im willing to be very patient with this player.
PG---I don't like any of our PG's including Calderon
Our back ups which will be very important-- Other than possibly early and possibly Jason Smith? Im not sure we have any long term on our roster. This can be worked on during the year with small trades. If a small trade doesnt work out--we move on at low cost. I'd like atleast one athletic PF. We need all new back up guards both sides.
So in conclusion
we need a stud frontcourt player. We need possibly 3-4 new guards and to completely rebuild the PG position. We need an athletic PF back up and one additional large C 7-0 260+++
I think we have some pieces in place. I urge the Knicks and Carmelo to stay at 4--dont complain and play hard 32 minutes a night. Thats what he is our stretch 4. I can accept him making 20mm I could care less.
While this current team is a cluster fck disaster--there are pieces we can work with--possibly good pieces.
Now we need to steal a couple of players off peoples benches and maybe a couple of draft picks.
This years W_L mean not much too me. In the end Id like to get a high draft pick and one max FA and like Philly is doing trolling for my new bench.
I agree with everything you've mentioned. However, we won't be able to get that big man until next season. In an effort to win games in the interim, I am advocating using what we already have currently on the roster. Calderon is a nice player, but his lack of defense is alarming. Defense starts with back court players, because the opposing PGs start all plays. Larkin may be small, but his ability to disrupt the passing lane is commendable if you ask me.
Currently, our starters should be: larkins, THJ, Shumpert, Melo, and Dalembert. Under no circumstances that STAT should be on the court together with Melo. They are ball stoppers which slows the tempo/flow of the offense. The abovementioned starters are good enough to speed up the game and good enough to convert positive plays.
----> In an effort to win games in the interim
While I absolutely DO want to see Melo Shumpert THJ and Early and even Larkin play well--play consistent--I dont care if we lose. I think we can draft a really good big and sign a really good big--we could have a rebuilt frontline byt next year.
With THJ Early and Shumpert gaining experience with the Knicks set on keeping Melo at stretch 4--there is then way more in place over the longer term and more of a pathway to winning.
What exactly am I winning with this year? Bargs? Dalembart? Cole A? Amare? Smith on the frontline with Pable Jose and Larkin as our PG? Nope we'll win games but its in our best interest to win 30 and get a top 6-7 pick with a chance to get into the top 3.
What's the point on winning 30 this team has been down that road full on tank job 18-20 wins.
Vmart wrote:
What's the point on winning 30 this team has been down that road full on tank job 18-20 wins.
That is exactly what 2-6 becomes over 82 games. If they keep this up, they could dip into the teens.
Splat wrote:Vmart wrote:
What's the point on winning 30 this team has been down that road full on tank job 18-20 wins.
That is exactly what 2-6 becomes over 82 games. If they keep this up, they could dip into the teens.
Not if Bargnani has something to say about it
The "Deadly" sniper A.K.A. Phil's surprise
RonRon wrote:Chris Copeland at backup PF, stretch PF, maybe even Center at times to cause mismatches
Cope as a backup Center. CCCCCCCCCCCC-thru-Fence!
Truly, 2-6 is a horrible place to be.
I am curious to see how effective Calderon will be when he gets to play. Maybe he can help with the spacing, because he is known to be a good 3 point shooter.
