Knicks · Phil has to do what he has to do to shed salary for a 2nd max contract (page 1)

That would give us a legit big 3 from the post wing and PG and we could draft a C.

For example

Jackson 4 years 50mm 12.5mm per

Aldridge 4 year max starting at 18mm I think.

He's not a realistic option

Jackson very well could be

MX25 wrote:JR Smith drives us nuts…Reggie Jackson is just as bad.

Reggie is a superstar PG in the making.

MX25 wrote:JR Smith drives us nuts…Reggie Jackson is just as bad.

Reggie is 100% better than JR

Hopefully the Knicks are lottry picking when these guys become available

Outside of Anthony Davis and Stephen Curry its slim pickings

Our best bet is to add an impact player with our daft pick, hope they develop quickly () and use our cap space strategically on impact role players.

Are we letting Shump & Larkin walk? Who replaces them? Sign them, and how much room do we have?

We are so f^&%C! it isn't even funny.

Besides which, I'm done with the 'sign another star' route- just get me a bunch of nothing special, two way team players who bring it every night.

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:If we were able to get a Reggie Jackson and a Lamarcus Aldridge--for example along with a top 5 pick--we could legitimately go from cellar dweller to a championship type team in one year.

That would give us a legit big 3 from the post wing and PG and we could draft a C.

For example

Jackson 4 years 50mm 12.5mm per

Aldridge 4 year max starting at 18mm I think.

If you give Jackson max money, he's going to want to go somewhere where he can get the ball in his hands.

Melo is a PF, not a SF. Eventually the Knicks will have to concede that. Even if your entire scenario was possible, it would be the same problem of putting in massive dollars at the PF position ( LMA cannot play center)

If the Knicks got a high pick somehow, and managed to get a young hot center prospect, even those guys take some time to develop.

A maxed out taxpaying team of Melo, Calderon, LMA, Jackson and a highly touted rookie and roster churn still looks like to me a team that has a questionable big man rotation, no rim protection, and little help on the wings for perimeter defense.

No matter the roster permutation that folks want to push, it all falls back the same way, you cannot have a max player who cannot play defense. Not if you want to contend. The only exception would be Melo on the Bulls on a salary discount.

Melo is a PF. Bar none. Maybe not this year because the Knicks have so much money tied up in their current PF rotation, but once that clears, it's a different story. Chasing more PFs at big ticket prices won't help the Knicks.

Also you are factoring out the Spurs. If Duncan retires and Ginobili hangs it up, SA will be the hottest FA spot in the entire league and all the players will wait to see what the Spurs do, because playing with Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard and still having Splitter and Diaw plus a stable franchise with a history of winning, that's just far more attractive than the Knicks situation.

Unless you are getting LBJ or Anthony Davis, there is no one year turnaround in the modern NBA.

Two words: Dirk Nowitzki

what type of player will come to ny when he has a ton of other choices? why play in this pressure cooker for a losing organization? do people want to play with melo? does phil really have that much juice?

knicks would have to be a playoff team to attract someone of quality or else you are looking at overpaying a guy like they did with amare.

djsunyc wrote:knicks will be one of MANY teams with alot of cap space this summer.

what type of player will come to ny when he has a ton of other choices? why play in this pressure cooker for a losing organization? do people want to play with melo? does phil really have that much juice?

knicks would have to be a playoff team to attract someone of quality or else you are looking at overpaying a guy like they did with amare.

I agree. The one hope I see that can change that perspective is if we luck out and win the lottery and are able to add a franchise talent in the draft.

franco12 wrote:

djsunyc wrote:knicks will be one of MANY teams with alot of cap space this summer.

what type of player will come to ny when he has a ton of other choices? why play in this pressure cooker for a losing organization? do people want to play with melo? does phil really have that much juice?

knicks would have to be a playoff team to attract someone of quality or else you are looking at overpaying a guy like they did with amare.

I agree. The one hope I see that can change that perspective is if we luck out and win the lottery and are able to add a franchise talent in the draft.

Maybe Silver will rig it for us (the way Stern did for Cavs?) so we can be in top 5, or even get the top pick. We're doing our part by losing as much as possible.

djsunyc wrote:knicks will be one of MANY teams with alot of cap space this summer.

what type of player will come to ny when he has a ton of other choices? why play in this pressure cooker for a losing organization? do people want to play with melo? does phil really have that much juice?

knicks would have to be a playoff team to attract someone of quality or else you are looking at overpaying a guy like they did with amare.

If parson, burks, meeks and haywood are getting deals from $9-15MM what do you think all star quality players are going to command.

Rondo
Milshap
Gasol

Those are the guys that will be free agents. Memphis is a great city, they have a billionaire owner and a better team, so Gasol is unlikley. Milshap i can see leaving to get a little more brand recognition, but there are no fixes. Shumpert is going to command $8MM + next season. We need Gerald Greens on the cheap, guys like Isiah Thomas that you can steal because no one is paying attention, going to be very difficult to secure guys.

I DO NOT think we should pay players based on the triangle. We need to pay players per their talent. OKC CANNOT pay RJ--but we CAN. We have not had a player as talented as RJ in the last 25 years.

I would like to get one big--whether it be a Monroe Ladridge Gasol but REALISTICALLY what does this team need more than anything? A superstar who can have the ball in his hands and dictate the game. RJ makes CA at the PF much more effective. He's got to be our number 1 FA target for many reasons and Ron Ron I GUARNATEE I will not flip on this----RJ --i would give him a maximum contract--I wont be cheap with him--Ill give it to him 1 minute after FA opens. I hope when Westbrook comes back he goes back to stealth and 25 minutes end of season. Any player who is given the keys to the team--he'll have some hiccups but name another player who is even close to this?

BRIGGS wrote:Reggie Jackson is the superstar of FA. i thought that last year--I posted that last year. He's a 6-3 version of James Harden who just has not gotten the 38 minutes a night he deserves. Yes he might have a few hiccups but in terms of productivity with what he can do with his body and dribble--there is no other player close in FA.

I DO NOT think we should pay players based on the triangle. We need to pay players per their talent. OKC CANNOT pay RJ--but we CAN. We have not had a player as talented as RJ in the last 25 years.

I would like to get one big--whether it be a Monroe Ladridge Gasol but REALISTICALLY what does this team need more than anything? A superstar who can have the ball in his hands and dictate the game. RJ makes CA at the PF much more effective. He's got to be our number 1 FA target for many reasons and Ron Ron I GUARNATEE I will not flip on this----RJ --i would give him a maximum contract--I wont be cheap with him--Ill give it to him 1 minute after FA opens. I hope when Westbrook comes back he goes back to stealth and 25 minutes end of season. Any player who is given the keys to the team--he'll have some hiccups but name another player who is even close to this?

...would you try to trade for Reggie?

NardDogNation wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Reggie Jackson is the superstar of FA. i thought that last year--I posted that last year. He's a 6-3 version of James Harden who just has not gotten the 38 minutes a night he deserves. Yes he might have a few hiccups but in terms of productivity with what he can do with his body and dribble--there is no other player close in FA.

I DO NOT think we should pay players based on the triangle. We need to pay players per their talent. OKC CANNOT pay RJ--but we CAN. We have not had a player as talented as RJ in the last 25 years.

I would like to get one big--whether it be a Monroe Ladridge Gasol but REALISTICALLY what does this team need more than anything? A superstar who can have the ball in his hands and dictate the game. RJ makes CA at the PF much more effective. He's got to be our number 1 FA target for many reasons and Ron Ron I GUARNATEE I will not flip on this----RJ --i would give him a maximum contract--I wont be cheap with him--Ill give it to him 1 minute after FA opens. I hope when Westbrook comes back he goes back to stealth and 25 minutes end of season. Any player who is given the keys to the team--he'll have some hiccups but name another player who is even close to this?

...would you try to trade for Reggie?

Fck no- we should NEVER trade for guys who will be UFA's?????

If the Knicks can settle down with THJ and just leave him at 6th man and give him 30 min--so he can find his role-- if we could pick up RJ in FA that would put us at

5--no idea
4--Melo
3--no idea
2-Shumpert
1 Jackson
6th man THJ
back up PG Calderon unless we can swap him for another position cash wise that makes sense.
If you can get Jackson resign Shumpert draft a big--we can some addition by subtraction--we'll be much much better.