There is no doubt that Derek Fisher is going to be a great and successful head coach in the NBA. He really does have the makings of a future Hall Of Fame coach. Multiple championships will no doubt be his. But it is time to fire Fisher.
Fans like you are the reason why this team/organization has been so bad for so many years.
Mike Woodson's .580 Knicks winning % is starting to look good
FireWoodson wrote:There is no doubt that Derek Fisher is going to be a great and successful head coach in the NBA. He really does have the makings of a future Hall Of Fame coach. Multiple championships will no doubt be his. But it is time to fire Fisher.
your just talking to be heard
Guys, FireWoodson knows what he's talking about he's watched every second of every game in his parents basement so far this season
He needs to cut the on a whim rotation bull crap out
Or else this whisper needs to grow to a
Crescendo Lion roar at season's end if he doesn't stop
This horse dumpage below needs to stop
Cleanthony Early
Game 1 7minGame 2 0min
Game 3 0min
Game 4 0min
Game 5 6min
Game 6 16min
Game 7 11min
Game 8 8min
Game 9 0min
Game 10 7min
Travis Wear
Game 1 6minGame 2 13min
Game 3 0 min
Game 4 3min
Game 5 5min
Game 6 13min
Game 7 0min
Game 8 0min
Game 9 5min
Game 10 15min
Cole Aldrich
Game 1 17minGame 2 14min
Game 3 7min
Game 4 15min
Game 5 11min
Game 6 6min
Game 7 0min
Game 8 0min
Game 9 0min
Game 10 12min
Not only Phil but Rambis and Cleamons are there to talk to him about coaching and if they didn't agree with what he's doing it wouldn't be happening. People need to relax and let this process take it's course. The staff and Phil are all in sync on how this team is being developed. Jesus!!! SMDH
F500ONE wrote:He needs to cut the on a whim rotation bull crap out
At first I thought that was a strong point. Wow, this guy Fish is not going to be one of those by the book coaches. Melo sits start at fourth quarter...starters play close of fourth quarter...righty pitcher must face righty hitter...go for extra point to tie game late in fourth quarter not go for two to win it... I can't stand the Joe Girardi types who literally open a book during a game to tell them what to do. Fish's rotation decisions were more inclined with feel. A huge plus in my book.
But after two weeks it isn't making much sense. Sure, Wear is a fine player...but 15 minutes and much of that in the final minutes of a nailbiting back and forth tight game? Hardaway's minutes (or lack of) make no sense. Acy in big one game...benched the next? Same with Cole.
Fisher's approach is admirable, but I don't think it is even making any sense with his players. That's not good for any coach, let alone a new one.
FireWoodson wrote:F500ONE wrote:He needs to cut the on a whim rotation bull crap out
At first I thought that was a strong point. Wow, this guy Fish is not going to be one of those by the book coaches. Melo sits start at fourth quarter...starters play close of fourth quarter...righty pitcher must face righty hitter...go for extra point to tie game late in fourth quarter not go for two to win it... I can't stand the Joe Girardi types who literally open a book during a game to tell them what to do. Fish's rotation decisions were more inclined with feel. A huge plus in my book.But after two weeks it isn't making much sense. Sure, Wear is a fine player...but 15 minutes and much of that in the final minutes of a nailbiting back and forth tight game? Hardaway's minutes (or lack of) make no sense. Acy in big one game...benched the next? Same with Cole.
Fisher's approach is admirable, but I don't think it is even making any sense with his players. That's not good for any coach, let alone a new one.
Coach by Feel is never a good thing
You should coach based on principles
Past and Present results on suc decisions made
If a coach coaches by feel he'll have different guys playing
Each other on different nights based on what he's currently seeing
You can't do that, Hence DPNing Hardaway for a first half
Then starting him during the second half, who does that
nothing too impressive so far.
we are in tank mode while playing the crappy vets instead of our kids.
Knicks1969 wrote:Fans like you are the reason why this team/organization has been so bad for so many years.
No, not at all. Just an attention whore and some take the bait.
Knicks lacked leadership. Isiah had Dolans confidence and screwed it up. Dolan can trust phil. This turn around CAN'T take one off season to turn around given the circumstances of the franchise. To think otherwise would be short sided and emotionally based.
I don't have the answers other than confidence the guys phil hired all have a lot of rings as players and assistant coach's. They know success. Isiah had it as a player.
Any fool with a brain knows you don't make knee jerk trades as fans react that "change" is better than "Patience" and only the most short sighted attention seeker would call for a rookie coach's head in his first 10 games.
Children if they can't get positive attention will do what they need to do to get attention even if its negative.
"Firewoodson", your getting the latter. IF your going to present this concept, then why not explain it?
F500ONE wrote:He needs to cut the on a whim rotation bull crap outOr else this whisper needs to grow to a
Crescendo Lion roar at season's end if he doesn't stop
This horse dumpage below needs to stop
Cleanthony Early
Game 1 7minGame 2 0min
Game 3 0min
Game 4 0min
Game 5 6min
Game 6 16min
Game 7 11min
Game 8 8min
Game 9 0min
Game 10 7min
Travis Wear
Game 1 6minGame 2 13min
Game 3 0 min
Game 4 3min
Game 5 5min
Game 6 13min
Game 7 0min
Game 8 0min
Game 9 5min
Game 10 15min
Cole Aldrich
Game 1 17minGame 2 14min
Game 3 7min
Game 4 15min
Game 5 11min
Game 6 6min
Game 7 0min
Game 8 0min
Game 9 0min
Game 10 12min
Undrafted free agent, second round pick and a vet that had to go to the summer leagues to make the team. Aldrich is the third string center. Wear and Early are fighting it out to not be the kid sent to Westchester next week. Calling out a coach for not playing the end of the bench guys seems to be a tradition here but it seems to be getting more extreme.
CrushAlot wrote:Undrafted free agent, second round pick and a vet that had to go to the summer leagues to make the team. Aldrich is the third string center. Wear and Early are fighting it out to not be the kid sent to Westchester next week. Calling out a coach for not playing the end of the bench guys seems to be a tradition here but it seems to be getting more extreme.
2-8 says maybe the tradition should be heeded
But the tradition of excuses ring stronger
F500ONE wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Undrafted free agent, second round pick and a vet that had to go to the summer leagues to make the team. Aldrich is the third string center. Wear and Early are fighting it out to not be the kid sent to Westchester next week. Calling out a coach for not playing the end of the bench guys seems to be a tradition here but it seems to be getting more extreme.
2-8 says maybe the tradition should be heeded
But the tradition of excuses ring stronger
Talking about firing a coach because the guys mentioned aren't getting consistent rotation minutes 10 games in seems pretty extreme.
CrushAlot wrote:F500ONE wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Undrafted free agent, second round pick and a vet that had to go to the summer leagues to make the team. Aldrich is the third string center. Wear and Early are fighting it out to not be the kid sent to Westchester next week. Calling out a coach for not playing the end of the bench guys seems to be a tradition here but it seems to be getting more extreme.
2-8 says maybe the tradition should be heeded
But the tradition of excuses ring stronger
Talking about firing a coach because the guys mentioned aren't getting consistent rotation minutes 10 games in seems pretty extreme.
I never said Fisher should be fired
He should be put on notice of not tightening up on
Who he's playing and play the right guys with each other
He's not infallible and above criticism
Just because he's a first yr coach and a Phil hire
F500ONE wrote:CrushAlot wrote:F500ONE wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Undrafted free agent, second round pick and a vet that had to go to the summer leagues to make the team. Aldrich is the third string center. Wear and Early are fighting it out to not be the kid sent to Westchester next week. Calling out a coach for not playing the end of the bench guys seems to be a tradition here but it seems to be getting more extreme.
2-8 says maybe the tradition should be heeded
But the tradition of excuses ring stronger
Talking about firing a coach because the guys mentioned aren't getting consistent rotation minutes 10 games in seems pretty extreme.
I never said Fisher should be fired
He should be put on notice of not tightening up on
Who he's playing and play the right guys with each other
He's not infallible and above criticism
Just because he's a first yr coach and a Phil hire
are you saying he has no strategy and that the time for assessment is over? decide on 8 guys and stick with that?
because if you are, here are the guys i give minutes to:
melo
dalembert
shumpert
acy
wear
stoudemire
calderon
aldrich
jason smith
larkin-- until calderon come back
not saying i agree with that approach but if that is what you are asserting then these would be the guys...
no early
no hardaway
no jr smith
no bargnani
