Knicks · Jr Smith (page 2)

CrushAlot wrote:Kind of nice that he had his best game on a day when there was a 1:00 start. Those are usually difficult games for him. Maybe he is respecting Fish and taking things more seriously. It would be nice. Also, I think he should start until Jose is back.

so you expect consistency from here on out, from a guy who has been the opposite for his entire career.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Kind of nice that he had his best game on a day when there was a 1:00 start. Those are usually difficult games for him. Maybe he is respecting Fish and taking things more seriously. It would be nice. Also, I think he should start until Jose is back.

so you expect consistency from here on out, from a guy who has been the opposite for his entire career.

No. But a very good performance for a game that had an early start is a positive change. Maybe it just worked out that he had a good game. However, if he is buying in and making changes that make him more professional and better on the court it would be great.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Kind of nice that he had his best game on a day when there was a 1:00 start. Those are usually difficult games for him. Maybe he is respecting Fish and taking things more seriously. It would be nice. Also, I think he should start until Jose is back.

so you expect consistency from here on out, from a guy who has been the opposite for his entire career.

No. But a very good performance for a game that had an early start is a positive change. Maybe it just worked out that he had a good game. However, if he is buying in and making changes that make him more professional and better on the court it would be great.

the less he dribbles before shooting the better. him and melo dribble too uch before shooting and in melos case there has been a study that proves that point. must be the same for smith. szerbiak said as much in the postgame, the half a minute i can bear watching.

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:JR has made the best passes in this offense of any player we have this year..

Well we've done everything possible to devalue almost every player on the team.

GM's don't watch tape? Gm's don't have scouts?

Smith has been awful this year and.........

Dude had a good game and now GM's are gonna all of a sudden think the dude is now of value?
Good game, now that Boogie is on the right track with a team USA to his resume Sacramento wants to bring in a new bone head?
When was JR big time desired? After his best season and team gots 54 wins and 2nd round appearance and NOBODY wanted him?

Not for more the 6mil we gave him.

Dude has great talent but he just ain't right!

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Kind of nice that he had his best game on a day when there was a 1:00 start. Those are usually difficult games for him. Maybe he is respecting Fish and taking things more seriously. It would be nice. Also, I think he should start until Jose is back.

so you expect consistency from here on out, from a guy who has been the opposite for his entire career.

No. But a very good performance for a game that had an early start is a positive change. Maybe it just worked out that he had a good game. However, if he is buying in and making changes that make him more professional and better on the court it would be great.

Its nice to be optimistic but JR will simply never change. Believe me I said the same thing when we won 54 games until he pulled his crap in the playoffs. Im just hoping( as Phil is im sure) that he opts out

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:JR has made the best passes in this offense of any player we have this year..

Well we've done everything possible to devalue almost every player on the team.

GM's don't watch tape? Gm's don't have scouts?

Smith has been awful this year and.........

Dude had a good game and now GM's are gonna all of a sudden think the dude is now of value?
Good game, now that Boogie is on the right track with a team USA to his resume Sacramento wants to bring in a new bone head?
When was JR big time desired? After his best season and team gots 54 wins and 2nd round appearance and NOBODY wanted him?

Not for more the 6mil we gave him.

Dude has great talent but he just ain't right!

The Knicks have been all over the map. When the Knicks traded Z bo it was after a series of 3-4 really good games by him. IF JR starts avg 20 points a game shooting 45% over the next 3-4 and playing good overall basketball--his value starts creeping back up. IF they are winning they then have to decide do we just keep JR and keep him at starting SG where he has not been this year.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Kind of nice that he had his best game on a day when there was a 1:00 start. Those are usually difficult games for him. Maybe he is respecting Fish and taking things more seriously. It would be nice. Also, I think he should start until Jose is back.

so you expect consistency from here on out, from a guy who has been the opposite for his entire career.

No. But a very good performance for a game that had an early start is a positive change. Maybe it just worked out that he had a good game. However, if he is buying in and making changes that make him more professional and better on the court it would be great.

Its nice to be optimistic but JR will simply never change. Believe me I said the same thing when we won 54 games until he pulled his crap in the playoffs. Im just hoping( as Phil is im sure) that he opts out

JR's weaknesses are magnified on this team because they are reliant on him to be basically their 2nd best player, which is unrealistic given his skill set and salary. On a more balanced roster he could be an asset. Not sure why people always complain about his salary number in here and talk about using him to shed cap space. There's not many players that have his upside that you can sign away from another team for 6 mil. He doesn't even have a top 100 salary. Looking at other players with similar salaries (outside of those on rookie deals) he is really on par.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Kind of nice that he had his best game on a day when there was a 1:00 start. Those are usually difficult games for him. Maybe he is respecting Fish and taking things more seriously. It would be nice. Also, I think he should start until Jose is back.

so you expect consistency from here on out, from a guy who has been the opposite for his entire career.

No. But a very good performance for a game that had an early start is a positive change. Maybe it just worked out that he had a good game. However, if he is buying in and making changes that make him more professional and better on the court it would be great.

Its nice to be optimistic but JR will simply never change. Believe me I said the same thing when we won 54 games until he pulled his crap in the playoffs. Im just hoping( as Phil is im sure) that he opts out

JR's weaknesses are magnified on this team because they are reliant on him to be basically their 2nd best player, which is unrealistic given his skill set and salary. On a more balanced roster he could be an asset. Not sure why people always complain about his salary number in here and talk about using him to shed cap space. There's not many players that have his upside that you can sign away from another team for 6 mil. He doesn't even have a top 100 salary. Looking at other players with similar salaries (outside of those on rookie deals) he is really on par.

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Kind of nice that he had his best game on a day when there was a 1:00 start. Those are usually difficult games for him. Maybe he is respecting Fish and taking things more seriously. It would be nice. Also, I think he should start until Jose is back.

so you expect consistency from here on out, from a guy who has been the opposite for his entire career.

No. But a very good performance for a game that had an early start is a positive change. Maybe it just worked out that he had a good game. However, if he is buying in and making changes that make him more professional and better on the court it would be great.

Its nice to be optimistic but JR will simply never change. Believe me I said the same thing when we won 54 games until he pulled his crap in the playoffs. Im just hoping( as Phil is im sure) that he opts out

JR's weaknesses are magnified on this team because they are reliant on him to be basically their 2nd best player, which is unrealistic given his skill set and salary. On a more balanced roster he could be an asset. Not sure why people always complain about his salary number in here and talk about using him to shed cap space. There's not many players that have his upside that you can sign away from another team for 6 mil. He doesn't even have a top 100 salary. Looking at other players with similar salaries (outside of those on rookie deals) he is really on par.

I've been saying this for the longest. JR is a bargain, and he really isn't the problem. The problem is our team is constructed in a way that gives him more responsibility than it should. He should be a 6th man for real and not a 2nd option. Get our other pieces better and he will start to fit in...if he can slow down on the really dumb shit he does.

I should also mention, I'd trade him for a up and coming youngster or 2 and/or a pick. I just don't see us getting a player of his caliber even given his flaws. How many teams have a player who can drop 20 making 6 mil? I can't think of anyone not on a rookie contract.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Kind of nice that he had his best game on a day when there was a 1:00 start. Those are usually difficult games for him. Maybe he is respecting Fish and taking things more seriously. It would be nice. Also, I think he should start until Jose is back.

so you expect consistency from here on out, from a guy who has been the opposite for his entire career.

usually when he gets it going, you can expect 2 months of consistency

JR Smith is like many of the top 6th men in the NBA - he's not a steady player - so you want him coming in hyped up and playing aggressively. There's an element around being a starter (and not the primary scorer) where you just need to do your part. If JR's not in the action, he drifts a bit.

I'd take him over some of the top 6th men (let's say, over Jamal Crawford) in the league. When JR is locked in (which he's proven can go for stretches of upwards of 20 games), he really puts up numbers like a top-5 SG (think back to his 6th man of the year stretch - or the stretch toward the end of last year).

He really owns it if he's the #1 scorer and knows the ball is heading his way... but if he's #2 or #3, he's not nearly as effective or consistent - when he's responsible for just doing his part.

Woke up today, still

DO NOT WANT!!!

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:jackson doesn't like low-character guys. bye bye smith

What saying did George Bush eff up

That Briggs and the likes need daily reminders of

Hey Shakedoublespacespeare: brush up on this example of high character:

Liberals call President Bush a con artist, or worse, for launching a war because of an active WMD program in Iraq. But Bush genuinely believed Iraq had WMDs.

So did every major foreign intelligence agency on earth, even France’s. So did Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, who voted for the war based on the same intelligence Bush saw.

Bush acted on information he believed to be true. That is not lying.

Telling the American people something you know to be false — if you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what — is lying.

Defenders scrambling to defend the administration’s lies are beclowning themselves.

“‘Stupidity’ is unfair. Ignorance is a more accurate term,” wrote Jonathan Chait in New York magazine.

To the charge that ObamaCare was crafted in a deliberately deceptive way, Chait replies that Gruber is talking about something totally different: “He was trying to explain how the law’s architects had to compromise the simple technocratic purity they might use to design the law in an academic setting to account for an irrational political system in which tiny bits of fact can be decontextualized and manipulated by demagogues.”

Nice one, Jacques Derrida. Fellas, next time you tell your wife you’re going to Phoenix to attend Aunt Sophie’s funeral and evidence emerges that you instead spent the weekend with three hookers in an EconoLodge in Reno, try this one: “I had to compromise my simple technocratic purity to account for an irrational marital-vows system in which tiny bits of fact can be decontextualized, honey!”

http://nypost.com/2014/11/16/the-lies-th...

Welcome to the new funny.

BRIGGS wrote:Anyone can knock him--hey he's done some stupid things. But in the right circumstance he's a very solid NBA player who can score close to 20 points every night. He's also a willing passer and can grab 4-5 rebounds. I think he's a perfect match for Sacremento's bench and after game like today--maybe other teams can be reminded what he can do. but it's a two way street--a team has to know when to sell and when to hold. NY management has been in and out of love with JR for 4 years running. Time to use a couple of games like this to sell at a high.

I said this before the other day and I'll say it again -- Shump needs to be traded before he gets hurt again. The kid is an injury waiting to happen --- move him before something major goes wrong again. For such an athletic player -- I'm amazed at how stiff (non-fluid) his body/joints appear to be -- he seems to have no concept of when or when not to leave the floor and no concept of how to land. Be it is ankle, knee, hip, groin/hammy -- you name it -- the kid is an injury waiting to happen.

Get some value for him while you can and move on.

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Anyone can knock him--hey he's done some stupid things. But in the right circumstance he's a very solid NBA player who can score close to 20 points every night. He's also a willing passer and can grab 4-5 rebounds. I think he's a perfect match for Sacremento's bench and after game like today--maybe other teams can be reminded what he can do. but it's a two way street--a team has to know when to sell and when to hold. NY management has been in and out of love with JR for 4 years running. Time to use a couple of games like this to sell at a high.

I said this before the other day and I'll say it again -- Shump needs to be traded before he gets hurt again. The kid is an injury waiting to happen --- move him before something major goes wrong again. For such an athletic player -- I'm amazed at how stiff (non-fluid) his body/joints appear to be -- he seems to have no concept of when or when not to leave the floor and no concept of how to land. Be it is ankle, knee, hip, groin/hammy -- you name it -- the kid is an injury waiting to happen.

Get some value for him while you can and move on.

It's hard for me to see a good reason to move a kid unless we're able to get help somewhere else on the roster by trading him. We could use a younger and active shot blocking big IMO. We only have Dalembert as a legit rim protector and that makes me nervous.

Yea JR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tonight pretty much sums up why you cant trust jr

StarksEwing1 wrote:Tonight pretty much sums up why you cant trust jr

3-12fg

STILL DO NOT WANT

10yrs + and some fans feel it will eventually

Kick in for him

F500ONE wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Tonight pretty much sums up why you cant trust jr

3-12fg

STILL DO NOT WANT

10yrs + and some fans feel it will eventually

Kick in for him

I gave him plenty of chances and in fact in 2012 when he won the 6th man award I thought he finally changed. Then the Boston series came and he reverted back to his crap. This is why no other team offered him multi-year deals after his best season. I hope he opts out BUT he probably wont because he wont gett any offers at least nothing more that the mid level