BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Okafor scores so effortlessly. Guy is shooting close to 90% in 3 games. Ridiculous
This is a rough draft comparison
Karl Towns=young Bynum
Dakari Johnson--version of Demarcus Cousins
Willie Stein--a version of Tyson Chandler
nice
Towns went to St Joe's Metuchen just like Bynum
gunsnewing wrote:BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Okafor scores so effortlessly. Guy is shooting close to 90% in 3 games. Ridiculous
This is a rough draft comparison
Karl Towns=young Bynum
Dakari Johnson--version of Demarcus Cousins
Willie Stein--a version of Tyson Chandler
nice
Towns went to St Joe's Metuchen just like Bynum
I wonder if giving up cap space next year to acquire second high pick would be better than dropping all of our loot on one guy? This will be a unique draft--if we could do something like a Towns and Kaminsky--we could rebuild our frontline over night for 12 years without relying on anyone else. Anyone who gets Ok4 they get a guy who is 20-10-2 day 1. I honestly dont know what big I would take hard choice after Ok4 but I think clearly a lot of good choices. The guys on Kentucky are all 2 way players rim protectors--I could see PJ liking Towns. Towns
I much rather do that than throw max money at 30+ yr old Marc Gasol. It's not like we are signing Shaq in his prime.
Use the money to plug holes and bring in guys who defend and rebound at reasonable costs.
BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Okafor scores so effortlessly. Guy is shooting close to 90% in 3 games. Ridiculous
This is a rough draft comparison
Karl Towns=young Bynum
Dakari Johnson--version of Demarcus Cousins
Willie Stein--a version of Tyson Chandler
nice
Towns went to St Joe's Metuchen just like Bynum
I wonder if giving up cap space next year to acquire second high pick would be better than dropping all of our loot on one guy? This will be a unique draft--if we could do something like a Towns and Kaminsky--we could rebuild our frontline over night for 12 years without relying on anyone else. Anyone who gets Ok4 they get a guy who is 20-10-2 day 1. I honestly dont know what big I would take hard choice after Ok4 but I think clearly a lot of good choices. The guys on Kentucky are all 2 way players rim protectors--I could see PJ liking Towns. Towns
Do you think that you can develop two rookie big man and be in "win now" mode with Melo?
NardDogNation wrote:BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Okafor scores so effortlessly. Guy is shooting close to 90% in 3 games. Ridiculous
This is a rough draft comparison
Karl Towns=young Bynum
Dakari Johnson--version of Demarcus Cousins
Willie Stein--a version of Tyson Chandler
nice
Towns went to St Joe's Metuchen just like Bynum
I wonder if giving up cap space next year to acquire second high pick would be better than dropping all of our loot on one guy? This will be a unique draft--if we could do something like a Towns and Kaminsky--we could rebuild our frontline over night for 12 years without relying on anyone else. Anyone who gets Ok4 they get a guy who is 20-10-2 day 1. I honestly dont know what big I would take hard choice after Ok4 but I think clearly a lot of good choices. The guys on Kentucky are all 2 way players rim protectors--I could see PJ liking Towns. Towns
Do you think that you can develop two rookie big man and be in "win now" mode with Melo?
The guys Im looking at are almost sure fire right away players. We need to rebuild our entire frontline. We need two centers and two PF's going 4 ward even if Melo's stays at 4. Were going to lose Smith Dalembart Amare Bargs. Getting two high end rookies to go along with two vets would probably go a long way. These guys are not bench dwellers--these guys are ready made NBA players. I have not seen this type of big man talent--well I cant remember. Its lucky to have 1-2 good big men come out --this year you may have around 8 and 2-4 could be franchise type talent. Its a unique draft--better than last year atleast for us.
BRIGGS wrote:NardDogNation wrote:BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Okafor scores so effortlessly. Guy is shooting close to 90% in 3 games. Ridiculous
This is a rough draft comparison
Karl Towns=young Bynum
Dakari Johnson--version of Demarcus Cousins
Willie Stein--a version of Tyson Chandler
nice
Towns went to St Joe's Metuchen just like Bynum
I wonder if giving up cap space next year to acquire second high pick would be better than dropping all of our loot on one guy? This will be a unique draft--if we could do something like a Towns and Kaminsky--we could rebuild our frontline over night for 12 years without relying on anyone else. Anyone who gets Ok4 they get a guy who is 20-10-2 day 1. I honestly dont know what big I would take hard choice after Ok4 but I think clearly a lot of good choices. The guys on Kentucky are all 2 way players rim protectors--I could see PJ liking Towns. Towns
Do you think that you can develop two rookie big man and be in "win now" mode with Melo?
The guys Im looking at are almost sure fire right away players. We need to rebuild our entire frontline. We need two centers and two PF's going 4 ward even if Melo's stays at 4. Were going to lose Smith Dalembart Amare Bargs. Getting two high end rookies to go along with two vets would probably go a long way. These guys are not bench dwellers--these guys are ready made NBA players. I have not seen this type of big man talent--well I cant remember. Its lucky to have 1-2 good big men come out --this year you may have around 8 and 2-4 could be franchise type talent. Its a unique draft--better than last year atleast for us.
Music to my ears. I really like what I've seen out of them as well. But what is your philosophy on starting young players? I know a lot of old school coaches have been staunchly against it and I'm not too sure where I stand.
On one hand, I see how it can be used as a tool to motivate the player into getting better. A lot of young guys today have flaws in their game that never get rectified because they know they've got the potential tag and will get enough minutes to validate it (see Brandon Jennings). On the other hand, I could see how something like that could permanently damage a players confidence (see Kwame Brown and Jordan Hill, to a lesser extent).
I was just wondering because I still believe we should have capable veteran big men that could start ahead of them like the Jazz had Jefferson/Millsap ahead of Favors/Kanter. I'm not sure if the market will allow that to happen for us but I'd be inclined to keep Dalembert and Jason Smith around, until we can shed the training wheels.
NardDogNation wrote:BRIGGS wrote:NardDogNation wrote:BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Okafor scores so effortlessly. Guy is shooting close to 90% in 3 games. Ridiculous
This is a rough draft comparison
Karl Towns=young Bynum
Dakari Johnson--version of Demarcus Cousins
Willie Stein--a version of Tyson Chandler
nice
Towns went to St Joe's Metuchen just like Bynum
I wonder if giving up cap space next year to acquire second high pick would be better than dropping all of our loot on one guy? This will be a unique draft--if we could do something like a Towns and Kaminsky--we could rebuild our frontline over night for 12 years without relying on anyone else. Anyone who gets Ok4 they get a guy who is 20-10-2 day 1. I honestly dont know what big I would take hard choice after Ok4 but I think clearly a lot of good choices. The guys on Kentucky are all 2 way players rim protectors--I could see PJ liking Towns. Towns
Do you think that you can develop two rookie big man and be in "win now" mode with Melo?
The guys Im looking at are almost sure fire right away players. We need to rebuild our entire frontline. We need two centers and two PF's going 4 ward even if Melo's stays at 4. Were going to lose Smith Dalembart Amare Bargs. Getting two high end rookies to go along with two vets would probably go a long way. These guys are not bench dwellers--these guys are ready made NBA players. I have not seen this type of big man talent--well I cant remember. Its lucky to have 1-2 good big men come out --this year you may have around 8 and 2-4 could be franchise type talent. Its a unique draft--better than last year atleast for us.
Music to my ears. I really like what I've seen out of them as well. But what is your philosophy on starting young players? I know a lot of old school coaches have been staunchly against it and I'm not too sure where I stand.
On one hand, I see how it can be used as a tool to motivate the player into getting better. A lot of young guys today have flaws in their game that never get rectified because they know they've got the potential tag and will get enough minutes to validate it (see Brandon Jennings). On the other hand, I could see how something like that could permanently damage a players confidence (see Kwame Brown and Jordan Hill, to a lesser extent).
If you are good you play If u sck u sit. I imagine the 7-0 270 pound Dakari Johnson will be brick and mortaring someones starting line up right away. There may be some more waiting time with Towns although he may be their best player. And Stein is something between a Tyson Chandler and Deandre Jordan. I read how string Stein is hes put together. All of these guys are going to be rock solid NBA C's.
If I had to rank them Id say its close all the way around but
1-Towns
2 Johnson
3 Stein
Well see if that changes during the year.
Frank Kaminsky tonight
20 points 15 rebounds 7 blocks 2 assists. This guy is a very very close clone to Pau Gasol same size length skills. His body is completely changed from his freshmen year--hes probably 245-248 or so.
BRIGGS wrote:Frank Kaminsky tonight20 points 15 rebounds 7 blocks 2 assists. This guy is a very very close clone to Pau Gasol same size length skills. His body is completely changed from his freshmen year--hes probably 245-248 or so.
I see more Laetner in Kaminsky's game than Pau. Pau was quicker, more athletic with a shakier J at the same age. It pool him a while to develop the strength to post consistently. Have you had a chance to look at Terry Rozier in Louisville. NbaDraft.net have him as a possible pick for us at PG. I thought that was kind of high for him.
Knowing there might be some great players in the draft, kind of makes this season exciting- every loss brings them closer to us!
I think Okafor and then Mudiay are numbers 1 and 2, by a wide margin. Towns 3, Harrell 4. The rest are not so interesting to me.
codeunknown wrote:I think Okafor and then Mudiay are numbers 1 and 2, by a wide margin. Towns 3, Harrell 4. The rest are not so interesting to me.
I like Dakari Johnson and Kaminsky too. Johnson is more brick and mortar but his size attitude and motor will help a team from day 1--hes going to be a winning player. On the wing that kid from Duke Winslow is also a top 9 pick
I feel pretty good if were in the top 7 spots were going to get a very good big man.
BRIGGS wrote:codeunknown wrote:I think Okafor and then Mudiay are numbers 1 and 2, by a wide margin. Towns 3, Harrell 4. The rest are not so interesting to me.
I like Dakari Johnson and Kaminsky too. Johnson is more brick and mortar but his size attitude and motor will help a team from day 1--hes going to be a winning player. On the wing that kid from Duke Winslow is also a top 9 pick
I feel pretty good if were in the top 7 spots were going to get a very good big man.
Briggs, good to see you still on here. Unfortunately, I'm not as impressed by the above 2 although I think they'll find niches as back-ups. I agree that there are several PF/C "complementary parts", although I see a drop off after Harrell at 4. I'd go with Stein at 5, knowing that he comes with bust potential.
codeunknown wrote:BRIGGS wrote:codeunknown wrote:I think Okafor and then Mudiay are numbers 1 and 2, by a wide margin. Towns 3, Harrell 4. The rest are not so interesting to me.
I like Dakari Johnson and Kaminsky too. Johnson is more brick and mortar but his size attitude and motor will help a team from day 1--hes going to be a winning player. On the wing that kid from Duke Winslow is also a top 9 pick
I feel pretty good if were in the top 7 spots were going to get a very good big man.
Briggs, good to see you still on here. Unfortunately, I'm not as impressed by the above 2 although I think they'll find niches as back-ups. I agree that there are several PF/C "complementary parts", although I see a drop off after Harrell at 4. I'd go with Stein at 5, knowing that he comes with bust potential.
Portis, Oubre, Alexander, Johnson, Turner are all not particularly interesting.
Ok4 would instantly be 20X more popular than Melo. Can you imagine the jerseys sales if we got this kid----everyone would have a jersey
BRIGGS wrote:Ok4 would instantly be 20X more popular than Melo. Can you imagine the jerseys sales if we got this kid----everyone would have a jersey
Agreed it would Pandemonium, listen fans
Right now are emotional because the current season is in flux
But they would do a full 180 if we landed the #1 pick
Or even Top 3 for the matter
There would be Okafor billboards all over the city
Mr. Biggs is what we'd call him Babe Babeeeee
Chunk Fat would have to move over because bigger elbows are at the dinner table
But also think of the kind of clutch Phil would have over the draft
If we're sitting with the #1 pick
All teams would funnel to him lusting for it
They'd be at his mercy, he could get them to confess anything for it
This is the kind of power that only comes a few times in a lifetime
How thy relish the thought
