Knicks · Gamethread: bring on the Bucks (page 15)

Splat @ 11/18/2014 10:34 PM
That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier
gunsnewing @ 11/18/2014 10:35 PM
Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier

They obviously don't care so why should we?

Knicks1969 @ 11/18/2014 10:37 PM
Inconsistent team.....defense is certainly not our identity. When Dalembert is on the bench, we don't have a big that can come in a protect the rim or the paint
TPercy @ 11/18/2014 10:38 PM
no sign of Nate wolters today....bet some people wanted to see him play
Splat @ 11/18/2014 10:38 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier

They obviously don't care so why should we?

I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.

yellowboy90 @ 11/18/2014 10:39 PM
Wow, if JR didn't go cold the knicks probably would have found another way to lose. He missed a few open 3s when Bucks made there run though.
Splat @ 11/18/2014 10:41 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Wow, if JR didn't go cold the knicks probably would have found another way to lose. He missed a few open 3s when Bucks made there run though.

We had at least three delicious open shots in the closing minutes that would have tied or better. They had their shot

F500ONE @ 11/18/2014 10:41 PM
Splat wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier

They obviously don't care so why should we?

I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.


I think Shump is teetering on being an empty stat player

He's essentially traded in his defense for offense


We don't really have a dog on our team

Shump tries to be off the chain but it's clear IMO


He's playing for a contract, his angle is no different

Than Phil's money grab

Splat @ 11/18/2014 10:42 PM
FWIW, 3-9 is .250% which puts the Knicks on a 21-60 pace. I'm still holding out for 28 wins though.
Splat @ 11/18/2014 10:43 PM
F500ONE wrote:
Splat wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier

They obviously don't care so why should we?

I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.


I think Shump is teetering on being an empty stat player

He's essentially traded in his defense for offense


We don't really have a dog on our team

Shump tries to be off the chain but it's cler IMO


He's playing for a contract, his angle is no different

Than Phil's money grab

You've lost your mind with your Shump tirades. Seriously, what a load of horsechit. He played great.

gunsnewing @ 11/18/2014 10:44 PM
F500ONE wrote:
Splat wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier

They obviously don't care so why should we?

I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.


I think Shump is teetering on being an empty stat player

He's essentially traded in his defense for offense


We don't really have a dog on our team

Shump tries to be off the chain but it's cler IMO


He's playing for a contract, his angle is no different

Than Phil's money grab

The only guy who played any defense today. Inside or out

gunsnewing @ 11/18/2014 10:45 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Wow, if JR didn't go cold the knicks probably would have found another way to lose. He missed a few open 3s when Bucks made there run though.

Killer

Can we please get JR & Amare off this team

Then sooner the better

yellowboy90 @ 11/18/2014 10:45 PM
Hardaway needs to keep this up. Reggie Jackson coming soon.
Knicksfan @ 11/18/2014 10:48 PM
Shumpert is the Truth! Melo is doing a lot more than simply scoring. Hardaway Jr. should get more burn even with his defensive deficiencies. I also like Larkin. Calderon is missed.

We manage to make things atrocious, then interesting and then we keep tanking. I'm ok with that. This is a transitional year anyway...

yellowboy90 @ 11/18/2014 10:49 PM
If Calderon every came back. It would be interesting to see if Fisher would go Calderon, THjr, JR, Shump, and Melo in the closing seconds of games tied or down 3.
ScoreBot @ 11/18/2014 10:50 PM
Final  
MIL 117 NYK 113
Knicksfan @ 11/18/2014 10:50 PM
J.R. hopefully will get going and have a solid year. We need to sell him high... Basketball-wise...
BigRedDog @ 11/18/2014 10:52 PM
F500ONE wrote:
Splat wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier

They obviously don't care so why should we?

I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.


I think Shump is teetering on being an empty stat player

He's essentially traded in his defense for offense


We don't really have a dog on our team

Shump tries to be off the chain but it's cler IMO


He's playing for a contract, his angle is no different

Than Phil's money grab

You have no clue about Phil. Sure he wants to be paid but he is doing this because he cares about the Knicks. You are such a negative influence on this board. Another poster that adds nothing to this forum

F500ONE @ 11/18/2014 10:55 PM
Splat wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Splat wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier

They obviously don't care so why should we?

I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.


I think Shump is teetering on being an empty stat player

He's essentially traded in his defense for offense


We don't really have a dog on our team

Shump tries to be off the chain but it's cler IMO


He's playing for a contract, his angle is no different

Than Phil's money grab

You've lost your mind with your Shump tirades. Seriously, what a load of horsechit. He played great.

He wasn't good in the first half defensively

He was great offensively though


Then inverted his game the second half

I think he's placing too much focus on his offense


Which is setting bad tones for us defensively

I mean it's no different how some here view Amar'e


Some will call poo poo on those who feel Stat provides nothing

And the counter will be for a player who comes off the bench


He's fairly efficient and productive

I'm trying to figure out if Shump is becoming Carmelo like


Where their personal exploits only translate to personal benefit

And not towards the benefit of team


I don't think Shump is being selfish but

I think his focus is weighted and skewed a tad


Of course I could be wrong but oh well we're 3-9 and the beat goes on

yellowboy90 @ 11/18/2014 10:58 PM
Knicksfan wrote:J.R. hopefully will get going and have a solid year. We need to sell him high... Basketball-wise...

before this game his numbers were pretty good. His 3pt shot is off so far but he is borderline efficient with 4 rebs and 5 ast (per 36 for both).

If you look at his Nov. numbers he is shooting 48% from the field and still getting good numbers per 36. His trade value should be okay numbers wise.

Splat @ 11/18/2014 11:00 PM
I am certainly not going to waste much energy trying to convince someone Shump had a good game. You seem to get stuck in rhetorical concepts like this inversion nonsense. If he is Jekyll and Hyding like you say, then I'll just ignore the defensive stops and strips plus the swishes and offensive play of the game all late in the game. Oh never mind
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