That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier
Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier
They obviously don't care so why should we?
Inconsistent team.....defense is certainly not our identity. When Dalembert is on the bench, we don't have a big that can come in a protect the rim or the paint
no sign of Nate wolters today....bet some people wanted to see him play
gunsnewing wrote:Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier
They obviously don't care so why should we?
I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.
Wow, if JR didn't go cold the knicks probably would have found another way to lose. He missed a few open 3s when Bucks made there run though.
yellowboy90 wrote:Wow, if JR didn't go cold the knicks probably would have found another way to lose. He missed a few open 3s when Bucks made there run though.
We had at least three delicious open shots in the closing minutes that would have tied or better. They had their shot
Splat wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier
They obviously don't care so why should we?
I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.
I think Shump is teetering on being an empty stat player
He's essentially traded in his defense for offense
We don't really have a dog on our team
Shump tries to be off the chain but it's clear IMO
He's playing for a contract, his angle is no different
Than Phil's money grab
FWIW, 3-9 is .250% which puts the Knicks on a 21-60 pace. I'm still holding out for 28 wins though.
F500ONE wrote:Splat wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier
They obviously don't care so why should we?
I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.
I think Shump is teetering on being an empty stat player
He's essentially traded in his defense for offense
We don't really have a dog on our team
Shump tries to be off the chain but it's cler IMO
He's playing for a contract, his angle is no different
Than Phil's money grab
You've lost your mind with your Shump tirades. Seriously, what a load of horsechit. He played great.
F500ONE wrote:Splat wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier
They obviously don't care so why should we?
I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.
I think Shump is teetering on being an empty stat player
He's essentially traded in his defense for offense
We don't really have a dog on our team
Shump tries to be off the chain but it's cler IMO
He's playing for a contract, his angle is no different
Than Phil's money grab
The only guy who played any defense today. Inside or out
yellowboy90 wrote:Wow, if JR didn't go cold the knicks probably would have found another way to lose. He missed a few open 3s when Bucks made there run though.
Killer
Can we please get JR & Amare off this team
Then sooner the better
Hardaway needs to keep this up. Reggie Jackson coming soon.
Shumpert is the Truth! Melo is doing a lot more than simply scoring. Hardaway Jr. should get more burn even with his defensive deficiencies. I also like Larkin. Calderon is missed.
We manage to make things atrocious, then interesting and then we keep tanking. I'm ok with that. This is a transitional year anyway...
If Calderon every came back. It would be interesting to see if Fisher would go Calderon, THjr, JR, Shump, and Melo in the closing seconds of games tied or down 3.
J.R. hopefully will get going and have a solid year. We need to sell him high... Basketball-wise...
F500ONE wrote:Splat wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier
They obviously don't care so why should we?
I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.
I think Shump is teetering on being an empty stat player
He's essentially traded in his defense for offense
We don't really have a dog on our team
Shump tries to be off the chain but it's cler IMO
He's playing for a contract, his angle is no different
Than Phil's money grab
You have no clue about Phil. Sure he wants to be paid but he is doing this because he cares about the Knicks. You are such a negative influence on this board. Another poster that adds nothing to this forum
Splat wrote:F500ONE wrote:Splat wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Splat wrote:That's what we get for being lazy dogs earlier
They obviously don't care so why should we?
I like that Timmy caught fire and all that jazz, but the only real positive takeaway from this game is Shump is clearly the only leader on this team who imposes his will on the game with any consistency.
I think Shump is teetering on being an empty stat player
He's essentially traded in his defense for offense
We don't really have a dog on our team
Shump tries to be off the chain but it's cler IMO
He's playing for a contract, his angle is no different
Than Phil's money grab
You've lost your mind with your Shump tirades. Seriously, what a load of horsechit. He played great.
He wasn't good in the first half defensively
He was great offensively though
Then inverted his game the second half
I think he's placing too much focus on his offense
Which is setting bad tones for us defensively
I mean it's no different how some here view Amar'e
Some will call poo poo on those who feel Stat provides nothing
And the counter will be for a player who comes off the bench
He's fairly efficient and productive
I'm trying to figure out if Shump is becoming Carmelo like
Where their personal exploits only translate to personal benefit
And not towards the benefit of team
I don't think Shump is being selfish but
I think his focus is weighted and skewed a tad
Of course I could be wrong but oh well we're 3-9 and the beat goes on
Knicksfan wrote:J.R. hopefully will get going and have a solid year. We need to sell him high... Basketball-wise...
before this game his numbers were pretty good. His 3pt shot is off so far but he is borderline efficient with 4 rebs and 5 ast (per 36 for both).
If you look at his Nov. numbers he is shooting 48% from the field and still getting good numbers per 36. His trade value should be okay numbers wise.
I am certainly not going to waste much energy trying to convince someone Shump had a good game. You seem to get stuck in rhetorical concepts like this inversion nonsense. If he is Jekyll and Hyding like you say, then I'll just ignore the defensive stops and strips plus the swishes and offensive play of the game all late in the game. Oh never mind