Knicks · Wally SZCERBIAK finally shined the line on THJ (page 2)

Knicks1969 @ 11/20/2014 11:59 AM
mreinman wrote:what did wally say?

I tried to post the video, to No avail

FireWoodson @ 11/20/2014 12:03 PM
mreinman wrote:what did wally say?

Didn't say, he showed. He used his Wally Wall illustrator and showed two plays in which the Knick defense against the Wolves was poor. Both plays involved Hardaway.

To be honest, it was extremely unfair. Of all the poor defense played this year by our heroes, Szerb chooses to single out one guy? We all know paranoid Dolan has his hands in everything. He is the Joe Stalin of the sports world. Is it surprising that after Hardaway gives up the team secret that they didn't even try last year, Tim now is being singled out as a poor player on an MSG program? Benched for a half the day after those comments, now the only player called out for bad play this entire 3-10 season....something was behind that. I don't believe in coincidences in Dolan's MSG world.

mreinman @ 11/20/2014 12:06 PM
FireWoodson wrote:
mreinman wrote:what did wally say?

Didn't say, he showed. He used his Wally Wall illustrator and showed two plays in which the Knick defense against the Wolves was poor. Both plays involved Hardaway.

To be honest, it was extremely unfair. Of all the poor defense played this year by our heroes, Szerb chooses to single out one guy? We all know paranoid Dolan has his hands in everything. He is the Joe Stalin of the sports world. Is it surprising that after Hardaway gives up the team secret that they didn't even try last year, Tim now is being singled out as a poor player on an MSG program? Benched for a half the day after those comments, now the only player called out for bad play this entire 3-10 season....something was behind that. I don't believe in coincidences in Dolan's MSG world.

Or maybe he is just a brutally awful defender and just maybe its his own fault and not MDA's

Knicks1969 @ 11/20/2014 12:31 PM
The video doesn't lie. It is hard to argue against such powerful visual. THJ should use this criticism as motivation
Splat @ 11/20/2014 12:35 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Our defensive ineptitude the last six years have much to do with D'anthony. We assembled this roster to fit his run and gun style, and we are now paying for it. The Lakers too are in the same predicament.

Blasphemer!

F500ONE @ 11/20/2014 12:43 PM
fishmike wrote:Carlisle has a good team and they listen to him. He's also evolved. He also got ran out of Detroit and Larry Brown won a title went to b2b finals with the same core of players. He's also got a lot of first round exits with Dallas.

He also took a core Avery had and won it all

The LB you're lauding is the same one we ran out of town


So Larry all of a sudden became bad while Carlisle went on an uptick

Literally like 2-3 seasons apart from their results?


Carlisle has been more a victim of circumstances than anything

F500ONE @ 11/20/2014 12:46 PM
FireWoodson wrote:
mreinman wrote:what did wally say?

Didn't say, he showed. He used his Wally Wall illustrator and showed two plays in which the Knick defense against the Wolves was poor. Both plays involved Hardaway.

To be honest, it was extremely unfair. Of all the poor defense played this year by our heroes, Szerb chooses to single out one guy? We all know paranoid Dolan has his hands in everything. He is the Joe Stalin of the sports world. Is it surprising that after Hardaway gives up the team secret that they didn't even try last year, Tim now is being singled out as a poor player on an MSG program? Benched for a half the day after those comments, now the only player called out for bad play this entire 3-10 season....something was behind that. I don't believe in coincidences in Dolan's MSG world.

Bingo and I feel THJR is a bad defender

I do see some effort from him but he needs to improve


But if Wally is going to Alan Hahn his way to kissing donkey rear ends in this org

Naaaahhh will not waste my time on what he has to say DID NOT WATCH and WILL NOT WATCH

Finestrg @ 11/20/2014 12:51 PM
Right now, the team's unwatchable.

Still love my Knicks, bleed orange and blue, but the product they're putting out there is borderline unwatchable. Still watching every game but not with the passion I normally watch with. I won't be there with the I-Pad in my hand on UK commenting on ever play in the game thread. I'm OK with it though -- it's a process. This is year 1 of a new regime. Gonna take time. I was hoping we would've been a more competitive team this year but it looks like that won't be the case. What are we gonna do? This is only step 1--evaluating who on this roster is worth moving forward with. Step 2 will involve the trade deadline, possibly shedding more salary/opening up more cap room, the draft and free agency. Those are really the only things surrounding this team that are worth discussing at this point. Just have to remind myself it's about the big picture and not to get too worked up over the losing. I'm in full blown Yankees hot stove mode now--felt that way for a couple of weeks. Oh well..

FireWoodson @ 11/20/2014 1:10 PM
mreinman wrote:Or maybe he is just a brutally awful defender and just maybe its his own fault and not MDA's

Check the newspaper. We are 3-10. You honestly think we are 3-10 because of only Tim Haraway's defense? That's what that MSG program would have us believe. And you fell for it.
Knicks1969 @ 11/20/2014 1:32 PM
I can't be mad at Wally for pointing out the obvious. I am one of THJ's biggest fans, but that has always been one of my criticisms of him. He knows NOTHING about defense, and he knows it. What I want to know is who in the world is coaching defense to our boys?
smackeddog @ 11/20/2014 1:59 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Good coaches like Carlisle, Vogel, thibodeau, and others always find ways to get maximum output out of marginal talents. It is all about coaching. Great coaches inspire players to be good and go out every night to play hard.

Yeah, like all those coaches were great 10 games into their careers

Knicks1969 @ 11/20/2014 2:05 PM
It is all about temperament. Fish might turn out to be a hell of a coach, but you can tell very early that he is not an engaging coach on the sideline. He is not shouting out instructions even when guys are out of positions or running the wrong plays, and that does not sit well with me. Carlisle is not vocal also, but he is engaging.
smackeddog @ 11/20/2014 2:09 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:It is all about temperament. Fish might turn out to be a hell of a coach, but you can tell very early that he is not an engaging coach on the sideline. He is shouting out instructions even when guys are out of positions or running the wrong plays, and that does not sit well with me. Carlisle is not vocal also, but he is engaging.

Give him to find his style- JKidd looked awful at the start of last season and everyone was ridiculing him- they're not laughing now.

Knicks1969 @ 11/20/2014 2:37 PM
smackeddog wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:It is all about temperament. Fish might turn out to be a hell of a coach, but you can tell very early that he is not an engaging coach on the sideline. He is shouting out instructions even when guys are out of positions or running the wrong plays, and that does not sit well with me. Carlisle is not vocal also, but he is engaging.

Give him to find his style- JKidd looked awful at the start of last season and everyone was ridiculing him- they're not laughing now.

I will wait, I am patient. JKidd was and is still very animated on the sideline

markvmc @ 11/20/2014 11:34 PM
Frankly I think Fisher is doing well to get 3 wins out of this roster.
Knicks1969 @ 11/20/2014 11:44 PM
markvmc wrote:Frankly I think Fisher is doing well to get 3 wins out of this roster.

Seriously???? Fishers mismanagement of some of our players is the reason why we are so sloppy as a team. Why have Amare on the court at the same time with Carmelo? Why a different starting lineup per game? Yyyyyyy

markvmc @ 11/21/2014 11:07 AM
Nah, I was exaggerating a bit, but as this team proved last season, and is in the process of proving this season, they're not very good.
Cartman718 @ 11/21/2014 11:17 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:Knicks should have hired Mark Jackson

NO. I saw him in a couple of games at GSW. Hor-ri-ble

Knicks1969 @ 11/21/2014 8:32 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
markvmc wrote:Frankly I think Fisher is doing well to get 3 wins out of this roster.

Seriously???? Fishers mismanagement of some of our players is the reason why we are so sloppy as a team. Why is Amare on the court at the same time with Carmelo? Why a different starting lineup per game? Yyyyyyy

Knicks1969 @ 11/21/2014 8:33 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Knicks should have hired Mark Jackson

NO. I saw him in a couple of games at GSW. Hor-ri-ble

Seriously!!!!!!!

markvmc @ 11/22/2014 12:16 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
markvmc wrote:Frankly I think Fisher is doing well to get 3 wins out of this roster.

Seriously???? Fishers mismanagement of some of our players is the reason why we are so sloppy as a team. Why is Amare on the court at the same time with Carmelo? Why a different starting lineup per game? Yyyyyyy

Nah, I was exaggerating a bit, but as this team proved last season, and is in the process of proving this season, they're not very good.

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