http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-art-of-the-wildly-efficient-dallas-mavericks/
Really interesting article on how the Mavs havs built their offense. Looks so dynamic, I admit I love watching them play this year and Dirk is such a special player.
A few quotes I liked:
Chandler likes this mantra: “The ball dictates the shot, not the person.”
“The game these days is all about pick-and-roll,” Nowitzki says. “The Spurs showed it, and they play in a fun way. They move it, and everybody can score. That’s the name of the game now, and we adjusted.”
The Mavericks specialize in throwing those rules into chaos. They want to confuse you about very basic things: Which side is the weak side? Whose job is it to help on Chandler?
This is how the Mavs play now: all pick-and-roll, all the time. Nowitzki is attempting only about two post-up shots per game, by far the lowest number of his career, per Synergy Sports. Only 3.7 percent of Dallas’s offensive possessions have ended directly via a post-up. That would be the second-lowest such share for any team, ever, in Synergy’s database.
Another team that played very much like this, both in style and numbers: the peak Mike D’Antoni–Steve Nash Suns, who also hoped a blow-away offense could carry a mediocre defense to a championship.
pick and roll seems better and smarter and more efficient than the triangle but what do I know, I aint a zmaster
mreinman wrote:pick and roll seems better and smarter and more efficient than the triangle but what do I know, I aint a zmaster
It depends on who you have like most offenses. Milwaukee has been running PnR for years and a lot of other bad teams. The goal is to have quality offensive players for your system that plat D and enough other things to have a positive impact.
One thing to worry about is that in the playoffs Tyson shot attempts usually drop and he only takes a few shots to begin with. Dallas did win one despite this and they seemingly has duplicated that roster formula in a lot of ways.
I think their numbers will come down some bu I doubt they will come down Wednesday when Amar'e, Smith, THJr, and JR are defending the PnR.
yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:pick and roll seems better and smarter and more efficient than the triangle but what do I know, I aint a zmaster
It depends on who you have like most offenses. Milwaukee has been running PnR for years and a lot of other bad teams. The goal is to have quality offensive players for your system that plat D and enough other things to have a positive impact.
One thing to worry about is that in the playoffs Tyson shot attempts usually drop and he only takes a few shots to begin with. Dallas did win one despite this and they seemingly has duplicated that roster formula in a lot of ways.
I think their numbers will come down some bu I doubt they will come down Wednesday when Amar'e, Smith, THJr, and JR are defending the PnR.
I would like to start with a solid PG and go from there. When was the last time we had a young athletic smart pg?
Also, Brandan Wright is now shooting 80% from the field on nearly the same anmount as FGs as Tyson but in 8.2 less minutes of playing time. That is crazy.
yellowboy90 wrote:Also, Brandan Wright is now shooting 80% from the field on nearly the same anmount as FGs as Tyson but in 8.2 less minutes of playing time. That is crazy.
check my track record on him. Brought him up all the time last year.
I think that you brought him up as well.
mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Also, Brandan Wright is now shooting 80% from the field on nearly the same anmount as FGs as Tyson but in 8.2 less minutes of playing time. That is crazy.
check my track record on him. Brought him up all the time last year.
I think that you brought him up as well.
I may have but there have been others who mentioned him too in the past. He is like what Quincy Acy could only dream to be. Brandan Wright is undersized but is still 6'10 with a 7'4 wingspan. Acy is 6'8 with a 6'11 wingspan. Wright has a higher vert too bit he was a 1st round pick for a reason.
Check out his shooting numbers over the years and he can work in the triangle while capitalizing on the few PnRs within the offense. I would definately go after him at the right price and as the first big man off the bench. Basically, what he is now. It is not just the scoring either, he is rebounding at an okay rate and blocking shots at a great rate.
If the knicks had the money I would be going after Wright and Bass as a tandem off the bench as bigs. I doubt Wright is leaving Dallas though and/or will ask for too much money.
Wright and Bass? Seriously? The players we need are Sullinger and Green from the celts.
Knicks1969 wrote:Wright and Bass? Seriously? The players we need are Sullinger and Green from the celts.
Sullinger is playing to well to be had and Green is a 3 that cost too much. Now if the Cs would take back Jr Smith and give up a 2nd rounder or 2 I would gladly take on the extra 3 mil that comes with Green. In a lot of ways Green is just a bigger version of JR that plays better defense. Jeff is not all that.
Another back up big for next year is Ed Davis. Knicks really missed out on him but he has a player option this summer for just over $1M so I'm pretty sure he is opting out.
carlisle had a slower grind it out team with the pistons and a more conventional yet still slower half court team with the pacers.
he, like riley did after the lakers, changed the way he coached the team and now is sporting a big time offense. and guys under him (casey + stotts) have toronto + portland scoring pretty well too.
the triangle is a waste of time and phil jackson stubborness is going to waste another 5 years for y'all. it's why his coaching tree stops at him (more accurately stops a jordan + pippen + kobe + shaq).
djsunyc wrote:carlisle had a slower grind it out team with the pistons and a more conventional yet still slower half court team with the pacers.he, like riley did after the lakers, changed the way he coached the team and now is sporting a big time offense. and guys under him (casey + stotts) have toronto + portland scoring pretty well too.
the triangle is a waste of time and phil jackson stubborness is going to waste another 5 years for y'all. it's why his coaching tree stops at him (more accurately stops a jordan + pippen + kobe + shaq).
Thanks for the update, Drake.
djsunyc wrote:carlisle had a slower grind it out team with the pistons and a more conventional yet still slower half court team with the pacers.he, like riley did after the lakers, changed the way he coached the team and now is sporting a big time offense. and guys under him (casey + stotts) have toronto + portland scoring pretty well too.
the triangle is a waste of time and phil jackson stubborness is going to waste another 5 years for y'all. it's why his coaching tree stops at him (more accurately stops a jordan + pippen + kobe + shaq).
My take is no owner has taken on the commitment to revamp the team to adapt to the system. Seems like teams that tried it had the wrong players.
That being said, one can almost imagine Dolan not being a patient owner but with Phil its different. This ego maniac had to get his juice card validated to do what he thinks is necessary to evoke a change of culture which includes free reign to clear the roster if need be. Perhaps there is a belief that Melo can adapt.
one month into the season is hardly enough time. In fact, my take is this season is a tear down throw away season. We'll see.
Usually losses into january would enact some panic trade to salvage the season as the garden gets restless. If we don't, and in fact start selling assets instead you see a change of culture has occured.
I think not trading for Lowrey was a start. Good player, but Phil nixed it.
