Extrapolate Calderon's record X 2
For a larger sample that's 4-22 by winning %
We're currently 5-21 overall, so in actuality we're
Worse since he's returned from a strain calf injury
And if I'm not mistake Felton had to start last year
Without the trouble making skull dangerous keep out Tyson Chandler
He missed 4gms early but by the time we had 21 losses as a team we had 9 wins
But if you factor in the games played with Felton missing 4 early and us losing each one of them
We were actually 9-17 with Felton and no Tyson after the first 4gms
Looks like Phil and some Knick fans have some splainin to do
You are such a ... You know it really is just that simple to look at things in such a simplistic and immature way as to look at the results so far this year in totally different circumstances and try to make some point. It's posts like this that just make the entire experience on this forum so much LESS than it used to be. If you actually made a valid point it would be one thing but you spend about a half second to come up with these inane points and then spew them into threads. We all know things haven't gone as expected this year but it's not a simple formula to figure out what went wrong so far nor what moves made sense or not. What exactly is your point? Felton wasn't going to be a part of the future of this team and we all know Jose isn't the long term answer either, so what is your point?
If everything worked out perfectly this year it still would be a team in a transition year and we'd still be looking for a long term answer at PG. Jost made sense for this style of play and he's getting his game back but he's got limitations which we all knew before the season. He's not our biggest problem and Felton wasn't our solution to our problems either. Let's see what Phil does with this team for the future we know this hasn't been good but nothing you're saying here addresses the teams issues so what is the point of even bringing up Felton?
Oh god, who cares. Felton or not, Jose is just not that good and we're stuck with a very high priced bench player.
nixluva wrote:You are such a ... You know it really is just that simple to look at things in such a simplistic and immature way as to look at the results so far this year in totally different circumstances and try to make some point. It's posts like this that just make the entire experience on this forum so much LESS than it used to be. If you actually made a valid point it would be one thing but you spend about a half second to come up with these inane points and then spew them into threads. We all know things haven't gone as expected this year but it's not a simple formula to figure out what went wrong so far nor what moves made sense or not. What exactly is your point? Felton wasn't going to be a part of the future of this team and we all know Jose isn't the long term answer either, so what is your point? If everything worked out perfectly this year it still would be a team in a transition year and we'd still be looking for a long term answer at PG. Jost made sense for this style of play and he's getting his game back but he's got limitations which we all knew before the season. He's not our biggest problem and Felton wasn't our solution to our problems either. Let's see what Phil does with this team for the future we know this hasn't been good but nothing you're saying here addresses the teams issues so what is the point of even bringing up Felton?
People have been complaining about the forum long before F5 started with the double spacing posting. My guess is its the team not the forum
I don't get why some of you still want to win games.
Splat wrote:Oh god, who cares. Felton or not, Jose is just not that good and we're stuck with a very high priced bench player.
Actually trading for Jose may work
In a way Phil not intended, with the payoff being the draft
But of course eye test said the subtraction of Felton
And the addition of Calderon wasn't taking us to new heights
They are both lower middle road point guards
Who don't impact team winning enough to have them playing major roles
Now it's Jose's salary as you state which could restrain us some
We're going to need every dime available to overpay as much as possible this summer
nixluva wrote:You are such a ... You know it really is just that simple to look at things in such a simplistic and immature way as to look at the results so far this year in totally different circumstances and try to make some point. It's posts like this that just make the entire experience on this forum so much LESS than it used to be. If you actually made a valid point it would be one thing but you spend about a half second to come up with these inane points and then spew them into threads. We all know things haven't gone as expected this year but it's not a simple formula to figure out what went wrong so far nor what moves made sense or not. What exactly is your point? Felton wasn't going to be a part of the future of this team and we all know Jose isn't the long term answer either, so what is your point? If everything worked out perfectly this year it still would be a team in a transition year and we'd still be looking for a long term answer at PG. Jost made sense for this style of play and he's getting his game back but he's got limitations which we all knew before the season. He's not our biggest problem and Felton wasn't our solution to our problems either. Let's see what Phil does with this team for the future we know this hasn't been good but nothing you're saying here addresses the teams issues so what is the point of even bringing up Felton?
Well wasn't part of the reason this team
Hasn't performed up to expectations was the early absence of Calderon
Did you feel the absence of Tyson last year impacted
What Felton could have done point guard wise
Since Woodson ran a different system
Why was Felton so heavily blamed
And if you now want to resort to players who are no longer
Here would have never been part of a solution, can you not
Reason today we have players on the team who aren't solutions either
F500ONE wrote:nixluva wrote:You are such a ... You know it really is just that simple to look at things in such a simplistic and immature way as to look at the results so far this year in totally different circumstances and try to make some point. It's posts like this that just make the entire experience on this forum so much LESS than it used to be. If you actually made a valid point it would be one thing but you spend about a half second to come up with these inane points and then spew them into threads. We all know things haven't gone as expected this year but it's not a simple formula to figure out what went wrong so far nor what moves made sense or not. What exactly is your point? Felton wasn't going to be a part of the future of this team and we all know Jose isn't the long term answer either, so what is your point? If everything worked out perfectly this year it still would be a team in a transition year and we'd still be looking for a long term answer at PG. Jost made sense for this style of play and he's getting his game back but he's got limitations which we all knew before the season. He's not our biggest problem and Felton wasn't our solution to our problems either. Let's see what Phil does with this team for the future we know this hasn't been good but nothing you're saying here addresses the teams issues so what is the point of even bringing up Felton?
Well wasn't part of the reason this team
Hasn't performed up to expectations was the early absence of Calderon
Did you feel the absence of Tyson last year impacted
What Felton could have done point guard wise
Since Woodson ran a different system
Why was Felton so heavily blamed
And if you now want to resort to players who are no longer
Here would have never been part of a solution, can you not
Reason today we have players on the team who aren't solutions either
Players became relevant only after team have system and identity.
Felton, Calderon... who cares. This team is 2-3 years away from being good.
Nobody will remember their names....
markvmc wrote:I don't get why some of you still want to win games.
No they don't- they're just pretending they do so they can complain more and go on about how they were right (their primary interests).
smackeddog wrote:markvmc wrote:I don't get why some of you still want to win games.
No they don't- they're just pretending they do so they can complain more and go on about how they were right (their primary interests).
This post makes no sense
I predicted the team would win 34wins
Why would I root for more losses[outside of lottery prospects]
In order to be proven right, actually this team has managed to go on course
To prove me wrong, if they continue at this pace they won't sniff 30wins
So rooting for losses only makes me look foolish from a predictive perspective
Shame on me for not understanding THE SUCK of this team
Back to the subject matter here, Calderon has had a few decent shooting performances
But why hasn't he elevated the level of team play where it shows up in the W column
When Felton was here Tyson missed 20gms in a row after playing the first 4
This yr we heard the team was suffering because of the absence of Calderon
When you take the first 20-25gms out the gate factoring injuries in both yrs
Felton managed to keep the Tank on land and then much later onto the battle field
Calderon instead has pushed the Tank into deep waters and now it's a Submarine
I know there are many ways to die and Jose is making sure we Sub-Die Harder
