Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:smackeddog wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:foosballnick wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:If all this happened and it was entirely Phil's decision making, that's even worse
Only if Phil had a 1-Year plan. If his plan was to win this year at all costs....then it is an utter failure so far.
If his plan was to secure Melo and see/evaluate what else he has in Year 1 - then continue to build based on that ......then it is too soon to pass judgement
If his plan was to Tank this year to acquire a higher pick - then his plan seems like a success so far
If his plan was to have 12 overpaid players, turn a .450 team into a .190 team, and play Melo 35 to 40 mpg for 80 games while laboring multiple injuries, then I'd rather he let someone else do the planning.
Being a .190 team is better than being a .450 team this season because we have our pick. Compare our record with the team at the same point last season- it's not much different. You're in catastrophizing mode so you're trying to put a worse slant on everything. You know fine well last years team inflated their wins with that streak at the tail end of last season- why are you pretending otherwise?
If we're just trying for a high lottery pick, we should be resting Melo much more. Either we're simply awful or Dolan and Phil can't even tank right. Neither would surprise me.
Melo needs to play for branding and box office reasons
You'd think for box office reasons they'd want to protect their $124 mil investment, right?
I don't see what harm it would do to play him more like 28 mpg.
could he get off his 20 shots in 28 minutes?
I have heard a couple times that Fisher has these guys practicing quite a bit despite it being the regular season where veteran coaches might give the guys the day off, have them come in for treatment and watch film etc. After awhile if your doing this and it isn't successful you can start to lose players and I think the vets especially would resent this. Its just a nuance that veteran coaches have to know when to give their guys a break despite the losing. Fish is lucky that Phil is backing him while he figures things out.
CrushAlot wrote:I have heard a couple times that Fisher has these guys practicing quite a bit despite it being the regular season where veteran coaches might give the guys the day off, have them come in for treatment and watch film etc. After awhile if your doing this and it isn't successful you can start to lose players and I think the vets especially would resent this. Its just a nuance that veteran coaches have to know when to give their guys a break despite the losing. Fish is lucky that Phil is backing him while he figures things out.
Fish has 25mm$ in his pocket. Pat Riley used to practice until they were blue in the face--sck it up.
BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I have heard a couple times that Fisher has these guys practicing quite a bit despite it being the regular season where veteran coaches might give the guys the day off, have them come in for treatment and watch film etc. After awhile if your doing this and it isn't successful you can start to lose players and I think the vets especially would resent this. Its just a nuance that veteran coaches have to know when to give their guys a break despite the losing. Fish is lucky that Phil is backing him while he figures things out.
Fish has 25mm$ in his pocket. Pat Riley used to practice until they were blue in the face--sck it up.
Agree but they won. If what you are doing isn't working switch it up once in a while and see if the results change.
CrushAlot wrote:I have heard a couple times that Fisher has these guys practicing quite a bit despite it being the regular season where veteran coaches might give the guys the day off, have them come in for treatment and watch film etc. After awhile if your doing this and it isn't successful you can start to lose players and I think the vets especially would resent this. Its just a nuance that veteran coaches have to know when to give their guys a break despite the losing. Fish is lucky that Phil is backing him while he figures things out.
He probably is doing it out of spite because they are such a bunch of losers! When I read that he was practicing them hard and they didn't like it I kind of chuckled to myself and thought 'good'- just out of spite!
I bet Fisher's practices aren't even a patch on Riley's or JVG- we have a gentle bunch of players.
if guys are complaining about practice being too hard, then i think that tells you all you need to know about the kind of guys we have on this roster. lebron james has his teams practice harder than anyone this side of popovich. i have no issue with fisher practicing the team hard, suck it up.
Get used to being over it. It's going on for at least another 3 or 4 seasons. I get the vibe that Phil's fairly loyal to his proteges.
jrodmc wrote:Get used to being over it. It's going on for at least another 3 or 4 seasons. I get the vibe that Phil's fairly loyal to his proteges.
honest question...if the triangle doesn't really show any positive signs next season as well, do you think phil is the type of guy to abandon it and shift gears or do you think he stays the course?
djsunyc wrote:jrodmc wrote:Get used to being over it. It's going on for at least another 3 or 4 seasons. I get the vibe that Phil's fairly loyal to his proteges.
honest question...if the triangle doesn't really show any positive signs next season as well, do you think phil is the type of guy to abandon it and shift gears or do you think he stays the course?
Once Bargs gets back, everything will fall in to place and you'll regret ever having let him go!
djsunyc wrote:jrodmc wrote:Get used to being over it. It's going on for at least another 3 or 4 seasons. I get the vibe that Phil's fairly loyal to his proteges.
honest question...if the triangle doesn't really show any positive signs next season as well, do you think phil is the type of guy to abandon it and shift gears or do you think he stays the course?
IDK..man, in most cases, this start deserve's a pink slip with no explanation, just GTFO, and close my door..
were on pace to win 12 games...lol..who doesn't get fired for that
smackeddog wrote:djsunyc wrote:jrodmc wrote:Get used to being over it. It's going on for at least another 3 or 4 seasons. I get the vibe that Phil's fairly loyal to his proteges.
honest question...if the triangle doesn't really show any positive signs next season as well, do you think phil is the type of guy to abandon it and shift gears or do you think he stays the course?
Once Bargs gets back, everything will fall in to place and you'll regret ever having let him go!
Bargnani will never see the Dark of Night on this team
djsunyc wrote:jrodmc wrote:Get used to being over it. It's going on for at least another 3 or 4 seasons. I get the vibe that Phil's fairly loyal to his proteges.
honest question...if the triangle doesn't really show any positive signs next season as well, do you think phil is the type of guy to abandon it and shift gears or do you think he stays the course?
-“Remember how Pop et al complained about the Pau trade? How does that trade look now? Just relax…and be patient.”
---Phil Jackson
This team would not win with Red Auerbach coaching. Let the plan grow. Let Fisher grow. Let the team grow.
