Knicks · 7-1 265 pd Robert Upshaw Washington C (page 1)

This guy plays above the square. I just checked draftexpress database--hes not even listed in their top 110 prospects just for juniors???? This is how guys go under the radar. He looks like an Erick Dampier type player.

Hes averaging 11 points 7 rebounds 5 blocks shooting 65% in only 19 minutes. Washington will be on Espn this weekend against Oklahoma.

Good find.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:He stays on the ground well. Doesn't go for the fake. Not much to see in offensive game but at his size, he doesn't need much.

Good find.

He's the best NBA type rim protector I have seen yet. Hes huge yet quite athletic with good timing. I have the National CBB package-- I can view a lot of games. Washington has a really good PG Named Nigel Goss but this guy is an NBA player too. I think I have found two NBA big men this year Zach Auguste an under rated athletic PF who has a LOT of size for the position at 6-10 245 and athletic and this guy. Both guys are not covered by any draft sites but should be.

This will be the amateur post of the year. No one knows what the F Im talking about either--but these two guys are under the radar super studs. Not only are they just popping up on screens--each possesses lottery type talents from their respective positions. Zach Auguste might be a version of Blake Griffin when all is said and done and Upshaw is the best rim protector since Davis coming into the draft.

BRIGGS wrote:Funny this morning they moved Upshaw from no rating to 38 in round 2 this year.

probably because they saw this post!

Incredible. Incredible speed for a big man in terms of making blocks!

He certainly seems NBA ready.

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Funny this morning they moved Upshaw from no rating to 38 in round 2 this year.

probably because they saw this post!

Incredible. Incredible speed for a big man in terms of making blocks!

He certainly seems NBA ready.

He gets up there for 260 pounds--he gets off his feet. Look at that second block first video--hes above the square--thats +12.5 feet in the air--Dwight Howard level.

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Funny this morning they moved Upshaw from no rating to 38 in round 2 this year.

probably because they saw this post!

Incredible. Incredible speed for a big man in terms of making blocks!

He certainly seems NBA ready.

He gets up there for 260 pounds--he gets off his feet. Look at that second block first video--hes above the square--thats +12.5 feet in the air--Dwight Howard level.

its not how high you can jump - its control and discipline - and for a young kid, he's got an understanding of the game. Whether he translates to the NBA where everything and everyone is faster is to be seen.

But I would think he goes mid first round. How to you not take this guy if you have a pick there?

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Funny this morning they moved Upshaw from no rating to 38 in round 2 this year.

probably because they saw this post!

Incredible. Incredible speed for a big man in terms of making blocks!

He certainly seems NBA ready.

He gets up there for 260 pounds--he gets off his feet. Look at that second block first video--hes above the square--thats +12.5 feet in the air--Dwight Howard level.

its not how high you can jump - its control and discipline - and for a young kid, he's got an understanding of the game. Whether he translates to the NBA where everything and everyone is faster is to be seen.

But I would think he goes mid first round. How to you not take this guy if you have a pick there?

If you got Ok4 to play PF -- picked up this kid to be your shot blocking C off the bench to cultivate and add one of the good PG who will fall--that could change the team.

I really believe we have the foundation to be able to change course this summer--granted we need some luck--but you can position yourself for luck in life right? But we could have a nice draft re evaluate and then see who is what in FA. We needed a season like this--we needed a flush out. I dont see me bringing back JR Smith even if he has a contract.

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Funny this morning they moved Upshaw from no rating to 38 in round 2 this year.

probably because they saw this post!

Incredible. Incredible speed for a big man in terms of making blocks!

He certainly seems NBA ready.

He gets up there for 260 pounds--he gets off his feet. Look at that second block first video--hes above the square--thats +12.5 feet in the air--Dwight Howard level.

its not how high you can jump - its control and discipline - and for a young kid, he's got an understanding of the game. Whether he translates to the NBA where everything and everyone is faster is to be seen.

But I would think he goes mid first round. How to you not take this guy if you have a pick there?

If you got Ok4 to play PF -- picked up this kid to be your shot blocking C off the bench to cultivate and add one of the good PG who will fall--that could change the team.

I really believe we have the foundation to be able to change course this summer--granted we need some luck--but you can position yourself for luck in life right? But we could have a nice draft re evaluate and then see who is what in FA. We needed a season like this--we needed a flush out. I dont see me bringing back JR Smith even if he has a contract.

I would certainly sign up for that. This is the kind of guy who would compliment Ok4. If not him someone like him whether its through the draft, trade, free agency, overseas or undrafted

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Funny this morning they moved Upshaw from no rating to 38 in round 2 this year.

probably because they saw this post!

Incredible. Incredible speed for a big man in terms of making blocks!

He certainly seems NBA ready.

He gets up there for 260 pounds--he gets off his feet. Look at that second block first video--hes above the square--thats +12.5 feet in the air--Dwight Howard level.

its not how high you can jump - its control and discipline - and for a young kid, he's got an understanding of the game. Whether he translates to the NBA where everything and everyone is faster is to be seen.

But I would think he goes mid first round. How to you not take this guy if you have a pick there?

Look at 1:05 of video 2. I noticed he is ambidextrous. Thats a nice move from the top of the 3pt line--nice handle--nice soft hook with the left.

2-3 mid/late 1st rounders and 2 early/mid 2nd rounders, with 1 or 2 picks being possible future picks

Lets not forget we are missing a lot of talent and we are not likely to attract any talents without overpaying for their talents and we cannot afford to do so with CA and Calderon making 30m next season
And a TOP 3-5 pick would be making a lot more versus later picks, even more than the combined salaries of 3 mid/late 1st rounders and 2 early 2nd rounders

Thoughts?

IMO
Unless we are waiving the flag and will consider trading CA to a Western Conference team like Houston with the assets to pull a trade that would be beneficial to both teams...

We simply will not be able to build a team around CA before he will decline, at earliest 2 and 1/2 seasons later in 2017 summer

If we can draft a talent like OK4, how about parlaying it with the assets we can gain with trading CA if the price is right, while preserving cap space for 2017 when the salary cap is going to rise much
Till then, Focus on the development of our talents like we did when we had Wilson Chandler/Gallo/Frye/Ariza and that type of young players

I don't see any of these players consider signing with NYKs this summer

Millsap
Gasol
LA
Kevin Love
Lebron

BRIGGS wrote:Upshaw moved up to # 23 in draft by Draftexpress from not ranked.

You're doing too good of a job. Now players you find are no longer secrets. It's a catch 22. If you don't let us know about hidden talent we'd be left out of the loop but by doing so you're raising the awareness of guys we could've stole. LOL. You're too good for your own good.

RonRon wrote:Does anyone here think we should consider trading our pick this year for multiple picks?
Something like

2-3 mid/late 1st rounders and 2 early/mid 2nd rounders, with 1 or 2 picks being possible future picks

Lets not forget we are missing a lot of talent and we are not likely to attract any talents without overpaying for their talents and we cannot afford to do so with CA and Calderon making 30m next season
And a TOP 3-5 pick would be making a lot more versus later picks, even more than the combined salaries of 3 mid/late 1st rounders and 2 early 2nd rounders

Thoughts?

IMO
Unless we are waiving the flag and will consider trading CA to a Western Conference team like Houston with the assets to pull a trade that would be beneficial to both teams...

We simply will not be able to build a team around CA before he will decline, at earliest 2 and 1/2 seasons later in 2017 summer

If we can draft a talent like OK4, how about parlaying it with the assets we can gain with trading CA if the price is right, while preserving cap space for 2017 when the salary cap is going to rise much
Till then, Focus on the development of our talents like we did when we had Wilson Chandler/Gallo/Frye/Ariza and that type of young players

I don't see any of these players consider signing with NYKs this summer

Millsap
Gasol
LA
Kevin Love
Lebron

Hell yeah. Have you not seen our roster? We need talent

Knicks1969 wrote:I like the big dude. Can he pass the ball? And does he have a go to move on offense?

I just utube this young kid, I watched his individual workouts, he appears to be fundamentally sound. He has very good mechanic is shooting the ball. At his height, if properly groomed, he has the chance to be a nice player