Knicks1969 wrote:@holfresh: would u give max money to Damian Lillard????
Lillard has more of a track record, 3 years and just not 24 games, so he is legit..But he isn't a max player..A max player u build your team around..I don't think u build a team around Lillard, just not yet..But he is a very important piece for Portland...But then again, the way guys are being paid now with Bosh getting 119 and Heywood 16mil per, who knows..
holfresh wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:@holfresh: would u give max money to Damian Lillard????
Lillard has more of a track record, 3 years and just not 24 games, so he is legit..But he isn't a max player..A max player u build your team around..I don't think u build a team around Lillard, just not yet..But he is a very important piece for Portland...But then again, the way guys are being paid now with Bosh getting 119 and Heywood 16mil per, who knows..
Even if it makes zippo sense and has a proven track record of not working
Kyle Lowry didn't get max money...
holfresh wrote:Kyle Lowry didn't get max money...
Lowry is 28. I think it is a different proposition going for a younger player in that talent range. Lillard is 24 and IMO very much a max player. You'd be getting him at his best years.
RK PLAYER TEAM GP MPG PTS
1 James Harden, SG HOU 25 37.7 26.7
2 LeBron James, SF CLE 24 37.8 25.3
3 Anthony Davis, PF NO 24 35.2 24.8
4 Kobe Bryant, SG LAL 26 35.4 24.6
5 Stephen Curry, PG GS 25 34.0 23.9
6 Carmelo Anthony, SF NY 24 36.3 23.4
7 Blake Griffin, PF LAC 26 35.0 23.2
8 Dwyane Wade, SG MIA 20 32.7 22.8
9 LaMarcus Aldridge, PF POR 26 36.2 22.6
10 Jimmy Butler, SG CHI 24 39.9 21.9
11 Damian Lillard, PGPOR 27 35.9 21.6
12 Klay Thompson, SG GS 24 34.3 21.6
13 Chris Bosh, C MIA 23 35.3 21.6
14 Rudy Gay, SF SAC 24 36.4 21.1
15 Monta Ellis, SG DAL 27 33.7 20.6
16 Kyrie Irving, PG CLE 25 37.8 19.8
17 Marc Gasol, C MEM 26 35.0 19.6
18 Jeff Green, SF BOS 24 34.0 19.5
19 Kyle Lowry, PG TOR 27 34.2 19.4
20 Al Jefferson, C CHA 26 33.3 19.2
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:Kyle Lowry didn't get max money...
Lowry is 28. I think it is a different proposition going for a younger player in that talent range. Lillard is 24 and IMO very much a max player. You'd be getting him at his best years.
RK PLAYER TEAM GP MPG PTS
1 James Harden, SG HOU 25 37.7 26.7
2 LeBron James, SF CLE 24 37.8 25.3
3 Anthony Davis, PF NO 24 35.2 24.8
4 Kobe Bryant, SG LAL 26 35.4 24.6
5 Stephen Curry, PG GS 25 34.0 23.9
6 Carmelo Anthony, SF NY 24 36.3 23.4
7 Blake Griffin, PF LAC 26 35.0 23.2
8 Dwyane Wade, SG MIA 20 32.7 22.8
9 LaMarcus Aldridge, PF POR 26 36.2 22.6
10 Jimmy Butler, SG CHI 24 39.9 21.9
11 Damian Lillard, PGPOR 27 35.9 21.6
12 Klay Thompson, SG GS 24 34.3 21.6
13 Chris Bosh, C MIA 23 35.3 21.6
14 Rudy Gay, SF SAC 24 36.4 21.1
15 Monta Ellis, SG DAL 27 33.7 20.6
16 Kyrie Irving, PG CLE 25 37.8 19.8
17 Marc Gasol, C MEM 26 35.0 19.6
18 Jeff Green, SF BOS 24 34.0 19.5
19 Kyle Lowry, PG TOR 27 34.2 19.4
20 Al Jefferson, C CHA 26 33.3 19.2
I think it has more to do with where the team is and what their needs are...Chicago won't max Butler unless they have to match a silly offer from elsewhere...Chicago is notoriously cheap..They were paying Toni Kukoc more than Jordan and Pippen..That's when Jordan later held them for ransom at 30 mil per..
Butler takes less then he is a "team" player?
F500, you hung up on other peoples money!
Rose comes back he loses some touches. Jimmy shot down 11mil. Might be in for Gordon Haywood type money.
Notion a guy takes less means love? Silly.
It's a gamble but I'd offer him the max. Don't forget, it's more of a mini-max. It's barely half of what Melo's contract is.
Knicks1969 wrote:holfresh wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:You guys realize u want to max a guy out based of 24 games of play?!?!?..Last year he shot less than 40% and 28% from the three??
Max a guy who has never been an all star??
i saw him play live. he is a monster two-way player. you don't win with maxed out one-way players-- as you well know.
That kid is certainly worth the money. He puts in the time in the gym and his production this year is a result of that.
And u know this after 24 games?
He shows improvement since he entered the league. Check out his average from year: 1,2,and now
He said that his 1st year was hampered by not having a training camp etc (lock out year), and last year he said he was hampered by his foot injury that led to him gaining weight, which further slowed him down.
holfresh wrote:Kyle Lowry didn't get max money...
He has the worst agent in the league!
Young two-way players are hard to find these days. If Chicago does not offer him the money, some other team will. I hope and pray for the love of God it is the Knicks. We payed a lot of one trick poneys a lot of money for just one year of play. Houston, Amare, etc....
Nalod wrote:Butler takes less then he is a "team" player?F500, you hung up on other peoples money!
Rose comes back he loses some touches. Jimmy shot down 11mil. Might be in for Gordon Haywood type money.
Notion a guy takes less means love? Silly.
Sounds like you're the on hung up on peoples money
Your presence here alone proves that
Bonn1997 wrote:It's a gamble but I'd offer him the max. Don't forget, it's more of a mini-max. It's barely half of what Melo's contract is.
Yeah Butler's Max is not a Kobe Max, Melo Max, Bosh Max etc etc
It's the Max which he's entitled to probably somewhere around 25% of cap
F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:It's a gamble but I'd offer him the max. Don't forget, it's more of a mini-max. It's barely half of what Melo's contract is.
Yeah Butler's Max is not a Kobe Max, Melo Max, Bosh Max etc etc
It's the Max which he's entitled to probably somewhere around 25% of cap
next cba they have to lower the max contract amount or the nba will continue to circle the drain as a professional sport.
dk7th wrote:F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:It's a gamble but I'd offer him the max. Don't forget, it's more of a mini-max. It's barely half of what Melo's contract is.
Yeah Butler's Max is not a Kobe Max, Melo Max, Bosh Max etc etc
It's the Max which he's entitled to probably somewhere around 25% of cap
next cba they have to lower the max contract amount or the nba will continue to circle the drain as a professional sport.
U do know that some one just paid $2 billion for an NBA team, right??...
holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:It's a gamble but I'd offer him the max. Don't forget, it's more of a mini-max. It's barely half of what Melo's contract is.
Yeah Butler's Max is not a Kobe Max, Melo Max, Bosh Max etc etc
It's the Max which he's entitled to probably somewhere around 25% of cap
next cba they have to lower the max contract amount or the nba will continue to circle the drain as a professional sport.
U do know that some one just paid $2 billion for an NBA team, right??...
Not to mention just signing a TV deal of about 2.7 billion!!! The NBA is going to be FLUSH with cash.
holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:It's a gamble but I'd offer him the max. Don't forget, it's more of a mini-max. It's barely half of what Melo's contract is.
Yeah Butler's Max is not a Kobe Max, Melo Max, Bosh Max etc etc
It's the Max which he's entitled to probably somewhere around 25% of cap
next cba they have to lower the max contract amount or the nba will continue to circle the drain as a professional sport.
U do know that some one just paid $2 billion for an NBA team, right??...
yeah sure... great. what does this have to do with the quality of the league? the talent dilution is unmistakable. you must really hate basketball.
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:It's a gamble but I'd offer him the max. Don't forget, it's more of a mini-max. It's barely half of what Melo's contract is.
Yeah Butler's Max is not a Kobe Max, Melo Max, Bosh Max etc etc
It's the Max which he's entitled to probably somewhere around 25% of cap
next cba they have to lower the max contract amount or the nba will continue to circle the drain as a professional sport.
U do know that some one just paid $2 billion for an NBA team, right??...
Not to mention just signing a TV deal of about 2.7 billion!!! The NBA is going to be FLUSH with cash.
david "pt barnum sucker born every minute" stern's legacy lives on.
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:dk7th wrote:F500ONE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:It's a gamble but I'd offer him the max. Don't forget, it's more of a mini-max. It's barely half of what Melo's contract is.
Yeah Butler's Max is not a Kobe Max, Melo Max, Bosh Max etc etc
It's the Max which he's entitled to probably somewhere around 25% of cap
next cba they have to lower the max contract amount or the nba will continue to circle the drain as a professional sport.
U do know that some one just paid $2 billion for an NBA team, right??...
Not to mention just signing a TV deal of about 2.7 billion!!! The NBA is going to be FLUSH with cash.
Did you get wet when you typed that?
