Knicks · I think some Knick fans deserve this mess (page 3)
mreinman wrote:I think that this all went south when the man with the 124 keys said fuk you to the new board of erectors. "hell no, I ain't passing the damn ball ... geeeeeez you crazy, you guys be telling me, Melo, Carmelo, Da bomb to pass the damn ball ... you guys are trippin hehehehehe. crazy talk. Your move phil, pish, jimbo, shyt be crazy up heah"
Anyone with a managerial brain knew this would happen. All that garbage Phil blew up the public's crack about Melo upping his game to another level was cynical BS.
How can anyone with a straight face say Phil Jackson understands talent evaluation if he didn't already know Melo would go rogue and there was no chance of building a fluid, team oriented basketball culture with Melo as the core?
It's ludicrous.
Whether Phil acquiesced to Dolan's demand he re-sign Melo in order to get paid or he did it completely of his own volition doesn't really matter since he claims responsibility for this action.
Melo being Melo is all on Phil. He gave him the keys to drive this into a wall.
Splat wrote:The argumentation skills on this forum are largely nonexistent. So many lack the basic intellectual skills to distinguish terminology in order to have a debate.A prime fallacy demonstrated here over and over again showing an utter lack of self-awareness is attacking criticism as emotionalism and missing the irony of making such an emotional response. It is not debating.
If I want to watch hamsters in a cage gnawing on their knuckles, I can go to a pet store for that.
The real sourpusses are all of these incompetent debaters. They rarely come back with counter-arguments, but lots of default loyalties to large corporations over dissenting viewpoints. I've seen the brainwashed masses and they can be found on sports forums.
The world has not advanced much. Medieval minds pickled in digital ether is mostly what I see here.
Hey I'm bringing my Bass guitar over, you and DK stay put in the garage
We have to make sure everything is down pat we're the next biggest act for AGT
Melol!
Splat wrote:The argumentation skills on this forum are largely nonexistent. So many lack the basic intellectual skills to distinguish terminology in order to have a debate.A prime fallacy demonstrated here over and over again showing an utter lack of self-awareness is attacking criticism as emotionalism and missing the irony of making such an emotional response. It is not debating.
If I want to watch hamsters in a cage gnawing on their knuckles, I can go to a pet store for that.
The real sourpusses are all of these incompetent debaters. They rarely come back with counter-arguments, but lots of default loyalties to large corporations over dissenting viewpoints. I've seen the brainwashed masses and they can be found on sports forums.
The world has not advanced much. Medieval minds pickled in digital ether is mostly what I see here.
The problem with your statements (see below) is that you are offering up subjective opinions as if they are facts. For instance, please provide examples of how any of what you stated below is measurable. Most of us with "Intelligence" are able to see right through this type of post as relatively meaningless propaganda. You appear to be trying too hard to "debate" other posters (who do not agree with your opinion)......... off this board. No one cares if you are a "Good Debater" or not. Most here are Knick fans and here to read about and discuss the Knicks. You seem to have many bad things to say about this board and other posters....so why stay if just to complain about it?
Splat wrote:
Just like my opinions on Melo were once on the fringe and are now becoming a consensus, I guarantee you in the future most fans will agree that Phil:
1) cashed in on his reputation;
2) accepted compromises from Dolan that sabotaged his chances of success in order to get that $60M;
3) thought his chit doesn't stink;
4) was living in the past;
5) chose loyalty over effectiveness; and
6) wasn't equipped and didn't equip himself with the right staff to be the GM and do a rebuild.
Phil Jackson is outmanned and outgunned and he will fail because of his hubris and greed.
I know many can't deal with the truth yet, but they will. The truth is there for anyone to see it. This is a failed organization continuing to fail.
None of this is Fish's fault really, whether he is a good coach or not. This is Phil's mess.
foosballnick wrote:because he's got no where else to go.Splat wrote:The argumentation skills on this forum are largely nonexistent. So many lack the basic intellectual skills to distinguish terminology in order to have a debate.A prime fallacy demonstrated here over and over again showing an utter lack of self-awareness is attacking criticism as emotionalism and missing the irony of making such an emotional response. It is not debating.
If I want to watch hamsters in a cage gnawing on their knuckles, I can go to a pet store for that.
The real sourpusses are all of these incompetent debaters. They rarely come back with counter-arguments, but lots of default loyalties to large corporations over dissenting viewpoints. I've seen the brainwashed masses and they can be found on sports forums.
The world has not advanced much. Medieval minds pickled in digital ether is mostly what I see here.
The problem with your statements (see below) is that you are offering up subjective opinions as if they are facts. For instance, please provide examples of how any of what you stated below is measurable. Most of us with "Intelligence" are able to see right through this type of post as relatively meaningless propaganda. You appear to be trying too hard to "debate" other posters (who do not agree with your opinion)......... off this board. No one cares if you are a "Good Debater" or not. Most here are Knick fans and here to read about and discuss the Knicks. You seem to have many bad things to say about this board and other posters....so why stay if just to complain about it?
Splat wrote:
Just like my opinions on Melo were once on the fringe and are now becoming a consensus, I guarantee you in the future most fans will agree that Phil:
1) cashed in on his reputation;
2) accepted compromises from Dolan that sabotaged his chances of success in order to get that $60M;
3) thought his chit doesn't stink;
4) was living in the past;
5) chose loyalty over effectiveness; and
6) wasn't equipped and didn't equip himself with the right staff to be the GM and do a rebuild.
Phil Jackson is outmanned and outgunned and he will fail because of his hubris and greed.
I know many can't deal with the truth yet, but they will. The truth is there for anyone to see it. This is a failed organization continuing to fail.
None of this is Fish's fault really, whether he is a good coach or not. This is Phil's mess.
When a guy with a new screen name appears and spews massive amounts of the stuff you quoted above on a daily basis its because he was doing it somewhere else, and now he cant.
I mean the guy patted himself on the back and said his MElo opinions were once fringe but have become mainstream. Delusion knows no bounds.
foosballnick wrote:Splat wrote:The argumentation skills on this forum are largely nonexistent. So many lack the basic intellectual skills to distinguish terminology in order to have a debate.A prime fallacy demonstrated here over and over again showing an utter lack of self-awareness is attacking criticism as emotionalism and missing the irony of making such an emotional response. It is not debating.
If I want to watch hamsters in a cage gnawing on their knuckles, I can go to a pet store for that.
The real sourpusses are all of these incompetent debaters. They rarely come back with counter-arguments, but lots of default loyalties to large corporations over dissenting viewpoints. I've seen the brainwashed masses and they can be found on sports forums.
The world has not advanced much. Medieval minds pickled in digital ether is mostly what I see here.
The problem with your statements (see below) is that you are offering up subjective opinions as if they are facts. For instance, please provide examples of how any of what you stated below is measurable. Most of us with "Intelligence" are able to see right through this type of post as relatively meaningless propaganda. You appear to be trying too hard to "debate" other posters (who do not agree with your opinion)......... off this board. No one cares if you are a "Good Debater" or not. Most here are Knick fans and here to read about and discuss the Knicks. You seem to have many bad things to say about this board and other posters....so why stay if just to complain about it?
Splat wrote:
Just like my opinions on Melo were once on the fringe and are now becoming a consensus, I guarantee you in the future most fans will agree that Phil:
1) cashed in on his reputation;
2) accepted compromises from Dolan that sabotaged his chances of success in order to get that $60M;
3) thought his chit doesn't stink;
4) was living in the past;
5) chose loyalty over effectiveness; and
6) wasn't equipped and didn't equip himself with the right staff to be the GM and do a rebuild.
Phil Jackson is outmanned and outgunned and he will fail because of his hubris and greed.
I know many can't deal with the truth yet, but they will. The truth is there for anyone to see it. This is a failed organization continuing to fail.
None of this is Fish's fault really, whether he is a good coach or not. This is Phil's mess.
You come here and prattle on about negativity when your only objective is to attack posters. You haven't contributed any thoughts on the Knicks at all.
That you launched into this attack without basic comprehension of what I posted is evident. If you actually were thoughtful about this, you would realize I stated very clearly that list was my "Opinion".
That my opinions on Melo have been embraced by a growing group of people is not because I'm smarter. It is because I'm not resistant to reality. I'm not a slave to corporate sports loyalist brainwashing.
Many are afraid to come to strong conclusions because they don't have full access to the facts about what goes on behind closed doors. They then attack those who do because that is their default mindset to defend the status quo.
Guys like you are either permanently stuck in the past or take years to catch up to reality. I'm a guy who tells it like it is in real time.
You want to defend this board? Then post something useful instead of focusing on me. Otherwise, you're just another boring attacker without counter-arguments.
Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:I think that this all went south when the man with the 124 keys said fuk you to the new board of erectors. "hell no, I ain't passing the damn ball ... geeeeeez you crazy, you guys be telling me, Melo, Carmelo, Da bomb to pass the damn ball ... you guys are trippin hehehehehe. crazy talk. Your move phil, pish, jimbo, shyt be crazy up heah"Anyone with a managerial brain knew this would happen. All that garbage Phil blew up the public's crack about Melo upping his game to another level was cynical BS.
How can anyone with a straight face say Phil Jackson understands talent evaluation if he didn't already know Melo would go rogue and there was no chance of building a fluid, team oriented basketball culture with Melo as the core?
It's ludicrous.
Whether Phil acquiesced to Dolan's demand he re-sign Melo in order to get paid or he did it completely of his own volition doesn't really matter since he claims responsibility for this action.
Melo being Melo is all on Phil. He gave him the keys to drive this into a wall.
I don't necessarily agree that its all on phil.
I believe that Phil came knowing that resigning Melo was a prerequisite.
However, he was a dope for taking melo seriously when Melo said that he will help out the team with his contract. For Melo and his posse and this goes for many of these guys and their idiot handlers, its all about respect and chess moves.
Melo in the end said fu to phil and phil was fukked. The relationship has probably not been good since and therefore Phil has probably let Melo know how he feels and Melo said, fu again, I am going rogue.
Phil thought that he could control the outcome and he get check meloted.
I do think that Phil tries to trade his this off season but contrary to many other trade rape posts, I don't think that he has much/any value at that ridiculous contract.
EnySpree wrote:gunsnewing wrote:I can't take all this negativityMe either. We are terrible but we do have alot going for us so I don't understand the reason to go so hard this year. We've had worse situations
There were times when we were bad with no light at the end of the tunnel. Right now, we may be really really bad, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. We are this bad when we have a draft pick, and some solid prospects who project to be franchise type talent. At least we didn't have our pick last year instead when we were on the back end of the lottery. We just need to hit the reset button this summer, and luckily we can do that. Less than 4 more months of this mess, then it will be exciting to focus on draft and free agency and see how it comes together. No point in everyone losing it now, the end is near.
mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:I think that this all went south when the man with the 124 keys said fuk you to the new board of erectors. "hell no, I ain't passing the damn ball ... geeeeeez you crazy, you guys be telling me, Melo, Carmelo, Da bomb to pass the damn ball ... you guys are trippin hehehehehe. crazy talk. Your move phil, pish, jimbo, shyt be crazy up heah"Anyone with a managerial brain knew this would happen. All that garbage Phil blew up the public's crack about Melo upping his game to another level was cynical BS.
How can anyone with a straight face say Phil Jackson understands talent evaluation if he didn't already know Melo would go rogue and there was no chance of building a fluid, team oriented basketball culture with Melo as the core?
It's ludicrous.
Whether Phil acquiesced to Dolan's demand he re-sign Melo in order to get paid or he did it completely of his own volition doesn't really matter since he claims responsibility for this action.
Melo being Melo is all on Phil. He gave him the keys to drive this into a wall.
I don't necessarily agree that its all on phil.
I believe that Phil came knowing that resigning Melo was a prerequisite.
However, he was a dope for taking melo seriously when Melo said that he will help out the team with his contract. For Melo and his posse and this goes for many of these guys and their idiot handlers, its all about respect and chess moves.
Melo in the end said fu to phil and phil was fukked. The relationship has probably not been good since and therefore Phil has probably let Melo know how he feels and Melo said, fu again, I am going rogue.
Phil thought that he could control the outcome and he get check meloted.
I do think that Phil tries to trade his this off season but contrary to many other trade rape posts, I don't think that he has much/any value at that ridiculous contract.
That is a pretty fundamental agreement. Once Melo got paid, he did what he wanted to do.
If Phil didn't have the intel to know Melo is completely unmanageable, then how can he be taken seriously if he lacked that basic insight into Melo's true nature? George Karl indicated all of these things years ago.
And if Phil did know all this and signed him anyway, how can he be taken seriously either? That is why I used the word cynicism, because if he knew this and signed him, then Phil gave priority to getting his $60M, not the well being of the team.
If he knew this and he knew it would never work with Melo and those were Dolan's terms, then he could have turned down the job because it compromised his values. But according to some, you don't turn down $60M even if it means selling your soul.
So, either Phil's vanity made him stupid and he signed Melo with the hubris of thinking he'd mold him into his own image,
or
Phil was cynical in taking a job where he was immediately compromised.
That makes signing Melo Phil's responsibility either way. It can also be considered Dolan's too, but Phil is the front man and he song and danced his way into this gig so he is accountable.
fishmike wrote:EnySpree wrote:dont argue with the banned band. Whats the upside?Splat wrote:You think Fisher, at the end of his playing career, was going to say no to $25M? I mean so many say the thing about Melo, I assume they'd say the same about Fish.Just like the Knicks were stupid to give Melo his massive, no-trade contract, Phil (and Dolan) were also stupid to give a five year deal to a guy who had never coached before. I don't know the terms of Kidd's deal with the Nets, but it wasn't an albatross like Fisher's deal.
So what was that deal all about?
Phil.
It all points back to Phil.
Phil wanted his own group of buddies. Whether they were the best choices or not. Just loyalists. Just like Dolan.
It is a microcosm of Dolanism.
That's why the Fisher situation is a mess. Not only has he never coached a 4th grade basketball game, but he's in Phil's pocket.
How can anyone slobber over Phil with the way he has proceeded? Only the usual holdout suckers are mooning over Phil's zen BS. It's just another joke in a long line of Knicks jokes.
We're a bad team but the subplots you made up are garbage
Definitely isn't any upside.
I need a beer bro. I need a uk hangout
EnySpree wrote:only one??????fishmike wrote:EnySpree wrote:dont argue with the banned band. Whats the upside?Splat wrote:You think Fisher, at the end of his playing career, was going to say no to $25M? I mean so many say the thing about Melo, I assume they'd say the same about Fish.Just like the Knicks were stupid to give Melo his massive, no-trade contract, Phil (and Dolan) were also stupid to give a five year deal to a guy who had never coached before. I don't know the terms of Kidd's deal with the Nets, but it wasn't an albatross like Fisher's deal.
So what was that deal all about?
Phil.
It all points back to Phil.
Phil wanted his own group of buddies. Whether they were the best choices or not. Just loyalists. Just like Dolan.
It is a microcosm of Dolanism.
That's why the Fisher situation is a mess. Not only has he never coached a 4th grade basketball game, but he's in Phil's pocket.
How can anyone slobber over Phil with the way he has proceeded? Only the usual holdout suckers are mooning over Phil's zen BS. It's just another joke in a long line of Knicks jokes.
We're a bad team but the subplots you made up are garbage
Definitely isn't any upside.
I need a beer bro. I need a uk hangout
Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:I think that this all went south when the man with the 124 keys said fuk you to the new board of erectors. "hell no, I ain't passing the damn ball ... geeeeeez you crazy, you guys be telling me, Melo, Carmelo, Da bomb to pass the damn ball ... you guys are trippin hehehehehe. crazy talk. Your move phil, pish, jimbo, shyt be crazy up heah"Anyone with a managerial brain knew this would happen. All that garbage Phil blew up the public's crack about Melo upping his game to another level was cynical BS.
How can anyone with a straight face say Phil Jackson understands talent evaluation if he didn't already know Melo would go rogue and there was no chance of building a fluid, team oriented basketball culture with Melo as the core?
It's ludicrous.
Whether Phil acquiesced to Dolan's demand he re-sign Melo in order to get paid or he did it completely of his own volition doesn't really matter since he claims responsibility for this action.
Melo being Melo is all on Phil. He gave him the keys to drive this into a wall.
I don't necessarily agree that its all on phil.
I believe that Phil came knowing that resigning Melo was a prerequisite.
However, he was a dope for taking melo seriously when Melo said that he will help out the team with his contract. For Melo and his posse and this goes for many of these guys and their idiot handlers, its all about respect and chess moves.
Melo in the end said fu to phil and phil was fukked. The relationship has probably not been good since and therefore Phil has probably let Melo know how he feels and Melo said, fu again, I am going rogue.
Phil thought that he could control the outcome and he get check meloted.
I do think that Phil tries to trade his this off season but contrary to many other trade rape posts, I don't think that he has much/any value at that ridiculous contract.
That is a pretty fundamental agreement. Once Melo got paid, he did what he wanted to do.
If Phil didn't have the intel to know Melo is completely unmanageable, then how can he be taken seriously if he lacked that basic insight into Melo's true nature? George Karl indicated all of these things years ago.
And if Phil did know all this and signed him anyway, how can he be taken seriously either? That is why I used the word cynicism, because if he knew this and signed him, then Phil gave priority to getting his $60M, not the well being of the team.
If he knew this and he knew it would never work with Melo and those were Dolan's terms, then he could have turned down the job because it compromised his values. But according to some, you don't turn down $60M even if it means selling your soul.
So, either Phil's vanity made him stupid and he signed Melo with the hubris of thinking he'd mold him into his own image,
or
Phil was cynical in taking a job where he was immediately compromised.
That makes signing Melo Phil's responsibility either way. It can also be considered Dolan's too, but Phil is the front man and he song and danced his way into this gig so he is accountable.
When Phil publicly told Melo to "FLESH OUT HIS GAME"
Calling himself trying to Zen him, Melo was like
Yeah Kobe told me to eff em and do me baby like I've never done before
But I gotta keep my minions on deck so while I'm jivin and shuckin
Must place myself on a the stake as a martyr "My Knee, My Knee Oweeee, My Knee Hurts"
fishmike wrote:EnySpree wrote:only one??????fishmike wrote:EnySpree wrote:dont argue with the banned band. Whats the upside?Splat wrote:You think Fisher, at the end of his playing career, was going to say no to $25M? I mean so many say the thing about Melo, I assume they'd say the same about Fish.Just like the Knicks were stupid to give Melo his massive, no-trade contract, Phil (and Dolan) were also stupid to give a five year deal to a guy who had never coached before. I don't know the terms of Kidd's deal with the Nets, but it wasn't an albatross like Fisher's deal.
So what was that deal all about?
Phil.
It all points back to Phil.
Phil wanted his own group of buddies. Whether they were the best choices or not. Just loyalists. Just like Dolan.
It is a microcosm of Dolanism.
That's why the Fisher situation is a mess. Not only has he never coached a 4th grade basketball game, but he's in Phil's pocket.
How can anyone slobber over Phil with the way he has proceeded? Only the usual holdout suckers are mooning over Phil's zen BS. It's just another joke in a long line of Knicks jokes.
We're a bad team but the subplots you made up are garbage
Definitely isn't any upside.
I need alot of beers bro. I need a uk hangout
Fixed
Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:mreinman wrote:I think that this all went south when the man with the 124 keys said fuk you to the new board of erectors. "hell no, I ain't passing the damn ball ... geeeeeez you crazy, you guys be telling me, Melo, Carmelo, Da bomb to pass the damn ball ... you guys are trippin hehehehehe. crazy talk. Your move phil, pish, jimbo, shyt be crazy up heah"Anyone with a managerial brain knew this would happen. All that garbage Phil blew up the public's crack about Melo upping his game to another level was cynical BS.
How can anyone with a straight face say Phil Jackson understands talent evaluation if he didn't already know Melo would go rogue and there was no chance of building a fluid, team oriented basketball culture with Melo as the core?
It's ludicrous.
Whether Phil acquiesced to Dolan's demand he re-sign Melo in order to get paid or he did it completely of his own volition doesn't really matter since he claims responsibility for this action.
Melo being Melo is all on Phil. He gave him the keys to drive this into a wall.
I don't necessarily agree that its all on phil.
I believe that Phil came knowing that resigning Melo was a prerequisite.
However, he was a dope for taking melo seriously when Melo said that he will help out the team with his contract. For Melo and his posse and this goes for many of these guys and their idiot handlers, its all about respect and chess moves.
Melo in the end said fu to phil and phil was fukked. The relationship has probably not been good since and therefore Phil has probably let Melo know how he feels and Melo said, fu again, I am going rogue.
Phil thought that he could control the outcome and he get check meloted.
I do think that Phil tries to trade his this off season but contrary to many other trade rape posts, I don't think that he has much/any value at that ridiculous contract.
That is a pretty fundamental agreement. Once Melo got paid, he did what he wanted to do.
If Phil didn't have the intel to know Melo is completely unmanageable, then how can he be taken seriously if he lacked that basic insight into Melo's true nature? George Karl indicated all of these things years ago.
And if Phil did know all this and signed him anyway, how can he be taken seriously either? That is why I used the word cynicism, because if he knew this and signed him, then Phil gave priority to getting his $60M, not the well being of the team.
If he knew this and he knew it would never work with Melo and those were Dolan's terms, then he could have turned down the job because it compromised his values. But according to some, you don't turn down $60M even if it means selling your soul.
So, either Phil's vanity made him stupid and he signed Melo with the hubris of thinking he'd mold him into his own image,
or
Phil was cynical in taking a job where he was immediately compromised.
That makes signing Melo Phil's responsibility either way. It can also be considered Dolan's too, but Phil is the front man and he song and danced his way into this gig so he is accountable.
The only thing that Phil could have done was not take the job. MELO WAS STAYING!
Phil may have overestimated himself in thinking that:
a) he can convince Melo to change his game
b) he could convince (or take Melo at his word) that he would take less
b) - was a complete fail
a) - not looking good at all though I will make a final judgement at the end of next season
So with Jax being wrong about the above, his only was to not take the job.
NO OTHER OPTIONS.
I think that he let himself PARTLY be fooled.
Splat wrote:Those of you whom I've enjoyed bantering with and having some laughs, be well and have a good year. There's no point mucking with this mess or engaging in low grade debates. Stopping this cold turkey. Not going to do game threads for yucks any longer. As long as Melo is on this team, I'm off the radar. Knuckledraggers like Fishmike may now officially rejoice. I've deleted bookmarks to this site so I can't click my way back. Be well, Splat!
They've defeated you if this is your course
But I understand your contributions will always
Be a framework to logical thinking
Make sure you stay put
I'm headed to the garage to rock out with you and DK
F500ONE wrote:Splat wrote:Those of you whom I've enjoyed bantering with and having some laughs, be well and have a good year. There's no point mucking with this mess or engaging in low grade debates. Stopping this cold turkey. Not going to do game threads for yucks any longer. As long as Melo is on this team, I'm off the radar. Knuckledraggers like Fishmike may now officially rejoice. I've deleted bookmarks to this site so I can't click my way back. Be well, Splat!They've defeated you if this is your course
But I understand your contributions will always
Be a framework to logical thinking
Make sure you stay putI'm headed to the garage to rock out with you and DK
No defeat. I've said what I want to say. I consider leaving a victory for prioritizing more meaningful activities over posting here. This is pretty trivial stuff in the scheme of things and I really have better things to do. Take care
Splat wrote:F500ONE wrote:Splat wrote:Those of you whom I've enjoyed bantering with and having some laughs, be well and have a good year. There's no point mucking with this mess or engaging in low grade debates. Stopping this cold turkey. Not going to do game threads for yucks any longer. As long as Melo is on this team, I'm off the radar. Knuckledraggers like Fishmike may now officially rejoice. I've deleted bookmarks to this site so I can't click my way back. Be well, Splat!They've defeated you if this is your course
But I understand your contributions will always
Be a framework to logical thinking
Make sure you stay putI'm headed to the garage to rock out with you and DK
No defeat. I've said what I want to say. I consider leaving a victory for prioritizing more meaningful activities over posting here. This is pretty trivial stuff in the scheme of things and I really have better things to do. Take care
please visit from time to time and post mr 55 pics
Splat wrote:F500ONE wrote:Splat wrote:Those of you whom I've enjoyed bantering with and having some laughs, be well and have a good year. There's no point mucking with this mess or engaging in low grade debates. Stopping this cold turkey. Not going to do game threads for yucks any longer. As long as Melo is on this team, I'm off the radar. Knuckledraggers like Fishmike may now officially rejoice. I've deleted bookmarks to this site so I can't click my way back. Be well, Splat!They've defeated you if this is your course
But I understand your contributions will always
Be a framework to logical thinking
Make sure you stay putI'm headed to the garage to rock out with you and DK
No defeat. I've said what I want to say. I consider leaving a victory for prioritizing more meaningful activities over posting here. This is pretty trivial stuff in the scheme of things and I really have better things to do. Take care
There is always a chance anything can happen
Although things look pretty bleak, not everyone is an ignoramus on this board
There are some developing under currents always worth keeping a pulse on
Much can be revealed by probing external sources and bringing them forth here
mreinman wrote:Splat wrote:F500ONE wrote:Splat wrote:Those of you whom I've enjoyed bantering with and having some laughs, be well and have a good year. There's no point mucking with this mess or engaging in low grade debates. Stopping this cold turkey. Not going to do game threads for yucks any longer. As long as Melo is on this team, I'm off the radar. Knuckledraggers like Fishmike may now officially rejoice. I've deleted bookmarks to this site so I can't click my way back. Be well, Splat!They've defeated you if this is your course
But I understand your contributions will always
Be a framework to logical thinking
Make sure you stay putI'm headed to the garage to rock out with you and DK
No defeat. I've said what I want to say. I consider leaving a victory for prioritizing more meaningful activities over posting here. This is pretty trivial stuff in the scheme of things and I really have better things to do. Take care
please visit from time to time and post mr 55 pics
I will if Melo is traded. It's been fun! Sayonara!
F500ONE wrote:Splat wrote:F500ONE wrote:Splat wrote:Those of you whom I've enjoyed bantering with and having some laughs, be well and have a good year. There's no point mucking with this mess or engaging in low grade debates. Stopping this cold turkey. Not going to do game threads for yucks any longer. As long as Melo is on this team, I'm off the radar. Knuckledraggers like Fishmike may now officially rejoice. I've deleted bookmarks to this site so I can't click my way back. Be well, Splat!They've defeated you if this is your course
But I understand your contributions will always
Be a framework to logical thinking
Make sure you stay putI'm headed to the garage to rock out with you and DK
No defeat. I've said what I want to say. I consider leaving a victory for prioritizing more meaningful activities over posting here. This is pretty trivial stuff in the scheme of things and I really have better things to do. Take care
There is always a chance anything can happen
Although things look pretty bleak, not everyone is an ignoramus on this board
There are some developing under currents always worth keeping a pulse onMuch can be revealed by probing external sources and bringing them forth here
You do that then. As I said, I've got more important things to do. This has turned into a time suck I can no longer afford to accommodate.
Splat wrote:Those of you whom I've enjoyed bantering with and having some laughs, be well and have a good year. There's no point mucking with this mess or engaging in low grade debates. Stopping this cold turkey. Not going to do game threads for yucks any longer. As long as Melo is on this team, I'm off the radar. Knuckledraggers like Fishmike may now officially rejoice. I've deleted bookmarks to this site so I can't click my way back. Be well, Splat!
It's been real. Some of us have been there before. My suggestion is don't leave. Take a few days or weeks, if need be off and then jump back in when things become more bearable.
If you return try not to fall into personal traps even if you didn't initiate the getting personal business. Make your points. It doesn't matter that others disagree. Try for healthy discussion. When the conversation heads south let it go. Ignore or whatever need be.
Let the knicks season play out a little longer.
You came in with great enthusiasm and good intentions. A much needed burst of energy to what was going to be and ended up being a tumultuous season and more stale arguments. Arguments which will continue until Melo is gone. I enjoyed the humor and bantering back and forth in the game threads and such. It's a lot more fun to follow a knicks game with like minded Knick fans. Much more fun than arguing in circles.
So hoping you take my suggestion. If not then I will certainly respect your choice. Be well!