ugh there goes my #1 target
Although it might still be too make a declaration.
The owner is cheap but I just don't see letting Butler go
That means they probably move someone.
what a shock ... thats why the butler talk was/is silly.
CrushAlot wrote:That means they probably move someone.
How long is Rose signed for?
No disrespect to Rose, but Butler is the best player on the team now. They'd be crazy to let him go now.
could be BS also.... Knicks FO once said "we will match any offer for Jeremy Lin"
Lot of time between now and summer
its not BS.
Butler is one of the top players in the league on a good team.
there is no logic then would have him leaving.
BRIGGS wrote:So he's out.
Not yet - saying and doing are 2 different things.
What happens to this plan if Butler plays poorly in the playoffs or if the Bulls go out early in some type of upset?
Is Chicago still going to want to pay luxury tax --- we shall see.
1 by 1, they'll drop like flies
I am sure that greg monroe will still be there when we come knocking
knicks1248 wrote:1 by 1, they'll drop like flies
This is the price we pay for not developing our own players for 30yrs
mreinman wrote:I am sure that greg monroe will still be there when we come knocking 
Now that Smith is gone I think Greg may decide to stay in Detroit. I believe that was one of his biggest complaints.
Like I said he was never an option
We'd only be doing Chicago a favor
By trying to sign him to a Max 4yr deal
The denial is so real and strong in this thread
F500ONE wrote:Like I said he was never an optionWe'd only be doing Chicago a favor
By trying to sign him to a Max 4yr deal
The denial is so real and strong in this thread
How are we doing Chicago a favor if we signed Butler to a Max Deal? The only reason Chicago can be so confident is that they know the cap is going to explode with the new TV deal. It's not the end of the world if Chicago did in fact go full max on Butler. Butler's Agent will likely ask for an opt out like Lebron has so that he can sign an even bigger deal. A lot of players will be looking for contracts that allow maximum flexibility around that new CBA.
There are no guarantees in the Draft or Free Agency. You have to be in to win it tho! The Knicks will be in both and we just have to take our chances. In the end there are many different routes we can take with the cap space we will have. We don't have to only target the top guys, who are in good situations as there are always guys who will be looking for a better situation.
nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:Like I said he was never an optionWe'd only be doing Chicago a favor
By trying to sign him to a Max 4yr deal
The denial is so real and strong in this thread
How are we doing Chicago a favor if we signed Butler to a Max Deal? The only reason Chicago can be so confident is that they know the cap is going to explode with the new TV deal.
Because Chicago easily matches
And let's them off the hook on 5yrs of guaranteed salary
Gladly swapping it for 4, and the T.V. Deal isn't news
That just arrived at today's doorstep
Did you use this reason rationale when thinking
If we had a legit shot to snatch him away
Not to mention trying to soften the blow mentioning this
Is comical, it was one of the main reasons
Our very own Phil used to sign greaseball provolone face
"To that ridiculous contract" so to each his own as the saying goes.
Not really a surprise but it sure does suck. I'd still offer it, assuming he hits free agency, in hopes that Chicago declines the match.
Likely they deal Taj Gibson at some point so save some money
VCoug wrote:Not really a surprise but it sure does suck. I'd still offer it, assuming he hits free agency, in hopes that Chicago declines the match.
They'd match on the simple fact
He'd still be attractive at Max money
Make no offer and force the Bulls
To get a deal done at 5yrs chewing up their
Space and force them to be more concerned going
Forward about their books, and maybe him not remaining
Healthy over the contract since we're hopin, think of it this way
How would you feel if Melo had a 4yr deal instead of 5yrs.
F500ONE wrote:nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:Like I said he was never an optionWe'd only be doing Chicago a favor
By trying to sign him to a Max 4yr deal
The denial is so real and strong in this thread
How are we doing Chicago a favor if we signed Butler to a Max Deal? The only reason Chicago can be so confident is that they know the cap is going to explode with the new TV deal.
Because Chicago easily matches
And let's them off the hook on 5yrs of guaranteed salary
Gladly swapping it for 4, and the T.V. Deal isn't news
That just arrived at today's doorstep
Did you use this reason rationale when thinking
If we had a legit shot to snatch him away
Not to mention trying to soften the blow mentioning this
Is comical, it was one of the main reasons
Our very own Phil used to sign greaseball provolone face
"To that ridiculous contract" so to each his own as the saying goes.
With every post you make i'm increasingly more convinced that you are an ASS. I don't believe you when you say that you're a Knicks fan. You don't post like a Knicks fan. You post much more like a typical TROLL. Post after post you piss on anything having to do with the team and anyone who mentions any chance we have for something positive happening. Who does that except for a TROLL.
All any team trying to get a RFA has is a chance as there's no guarantee that a RFA's team won't match. Stop trying to act like all of us who have been following the NBA for decades are too stupid to understand how things work. Most of us are old enough to know just how it all works.
No matter how much you'd enjoy seeing this team strike out completely, there remains the fact that this team has some positive options for building a better future. As a "fan" I would expect that you'd spend even just a little bit of your time actually trying to identify how this team can successfully rebuild, but you don't do that. TROLL.