Knicks · Tristan Thompson turns down offer of 4 years 52mm (page 1)

But of course we will probably starphuch eventually

monroe is going to get 60+ mil this summer easy. maybe even max.

djsunyc wrote:new CBA is going to create a ridiculous new set of contracts.

monroe is going to get 60+ mil this summer easy. maybe even max.

I thought the Cavs would eventually work out the kinks but if the team is gonna continue to do dumb shyte like max out Tristan Freakin' Thompson and give contracts to all Lebron's geriatric buddies like Marion and Miller when it's not clear those guys can contribute more than token bench roles anymore then they may have a problem on their hands. I guess Miami didn't give Lebron enough power and he knew Gilbert would do anything to get him back and now he basically runs the team.

Bonn1997 wrote:52 mil as good? What are salaries going to increase by 50%?

fishmike wrote:

djsunyc wrote:new CBA is going to create a ridiculous new set of contracts.

monroe is going to get 60+ mil this summer easy. maybe even max.

and in 2 years time that contract will regarded as a good. There will be changes

No it won't, that's like a Heat fan saying

"Well I know Chris Bosh is making $20mil/yr but at least

He's not making what Melo is making"

A bad contract is a bad contract period

Is Kyrie's extension good because John Wall, D-Rose, Westbrook make the same money?

Fishrot logic where my lemon is not as bitter as your lemon

The new CBA NBA is said to believe owners will lock the league

Out to prevent the extreme large spikes in Max contracts-salaries

They want incremental growth on the cap figures over the life of next deal

Matching the new T.V. deal as close as possible

gunsnewing wrote:Phil said he is going to try to go about rebuilding a different way and be more responsible with the spending. I wonder is the cap increase will change his tune? I don't think it will. Even if Knicks fans riot

Phil has been picking up different instruments

To play a different song every since Day 1 on the job

He used the New CBA deal as justification to pay Melo

"That Ridiculous Contract", now he's saying he's going to be fiscally responsible

And not go after the dominant personality, although he stuffed

Shumpert into J.R.'s sock to get another whopping $6mil of additional cap space

He's a Prisoner of Executive Moments

fishmike wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:52 mil as good? What are salaries going to increase by 50%?

thats feasible.. look at the #s. Max might go from $20mm ish to $30mm ish.

One writer's take on the impending future salary cap projected increase (based on TV Contract and other revenue sources)..... source is Probasketballtalk - Dan Feldman

added commentary from Feldman.....

The new national TV contracts will reportedly pay $24 billion over nine years.

That is game-changing money.

The rules as we know them are all on the table, owners and players interested in modifying the system.

So, it’s more difficult than ever to predict future salary caps and what they’ll mean.

Maybe the cap gets smoothed. Maybe max salaries are eliminated. Maybe… anything.

The NBA and players could drastically re-write the cap rules at any point between now and the impending 2017 lockout/strike. The current Collective Bargaining Agreement was written before the league was so flush, so now, essentially everything could change.

But based on the system as we know it…

The salary cap is determined by the NBA’s Basketball Related Income (BRI), which includes national TV money and other revenue.

The current national TV contracts reportedly pay $930 million per season. For these purposes, I assume that’s an exact amount each season.

Of the $24 billion coming in the new national TV contracts, the NBA is slated to receive $2.1 billion the first year and $3.1 billion the last year, according to Zach Lowe of Grantland. As far as those middle seven years, I use straight $125 million annual increases to bridge the gap between $2.1 billion and $3.1 billion. That still leaves us $600 million short of the contract’s total value, so that $600 million was applied equally across the deal’s middle seven years.

What about other revenue?

If the current national TV contracts pay a constant $930 million, the NBA – based on its current salary cap and projected 2015-16 salary cap – is predicting a 6.6% increase in other revenue from this season to next. I apply that 6.6% growth in non-national-TV revenue for each future season. Maybe that’s too low – the increase from last season to this season was 9.8%, and the league’s early cap projections tend to be conservative – but I have little data on the NBA’s revenue streams, and I’m using 6.6%.

Here’s what all that would mean for the salary cap –a with this and past season’s actual cap, the NBA’s projection for 2015-16 and my projections for future seasons. Years under the current national TV contract are blue, future national TV contracts orange.

Bonn1997 wrote:There are plenty of examples in sports history where players turned down offers and later ended up settling for something worse. This was a bold, risky decision. I would have just taken the $50 mil in guaranteed money. It's hard to imagine that someone actually meaningfully beats that offer.

Luol Deng and Ben Gordon come to mind recently

But unfortunately Greg Monroe and Tristan will be grossly overpaid

Bonn1997 wrote:There are plenty of examples in sports history where players turned down offers and later ended up settling for something worse. This was a bold, risky decision. I would have just taken the $50 mil in guaranteed money. It's hard to imagine that someone actually meaningfully beats that offer.

Idk, I am finding more and more with todays athletes that they are not taught to be able to do a critical self evaluation.

If you ask them to evaluate their potential or where they see themselves in five years, they will say that with the right "situation", they can be the top player or among the top couple of players in the league.

They are in LA LA land!

F500ONE wrote:

The new CBA NBA is said to believe owners will lock the league

Out to prevent the extreme large spikes in Max contracts-salaries

They want incremental growth on the cap figures over the life of next deal

Matching the new T.V. deal as close as possible

Yes but even if it comes to a lockout or strike, at the end of the day the owners and player's union WILL have to come to an agreement that is acceptable to both sides. And we simply cannot "know" for a fact that the majority of owners want incremental increases. I can see the big spending owners like Dolan, Portland's owner, Ballmer, Cuban, etc wanting the salary cap to rise ASAP so they can splurge.

So in reality we dont know what will happen. Saying it will be small inceremental raises is not any more likely than other scenarios.