I'm going to focus more on Okafor's defense
From here on out, I know what he brings offensively
I did the same thing starting last game. He had a few good defensive possessions last game, still needs more effort IMO.
Duke looks like they're running a modified Triangle with Okafor in the pivot. Saw that last game and now again it looks very familiar.
Last game Coach K went to this 2-3 zone and it's worked for them. They switch out of it but when they go to it they have some success with it. OK4 doesn't really go hard for the block but then he is also trying to stay out of foul trouble. That's what it looks like to me.
See Okafor has to contest drives harder than that
I know big guys are more cognizant of their fouls but still
They were running a triangle like set a few trips down
F500ONE wrote:See Okafor has to contest drives harder than thatI know big guys are more cognizant of their fouls but still
They were running a triangle like set a few trips down
You know it just dawned on me why they go to the 2-3 zone with Okafor. He's not good out on the perimeter so this kind of protects him from having to do that. Plumlee is more mobile and agile so they can play more man D.
nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:See Okafor has to contest drives harder than thatI know big guys are more cognizant of their fouls but still
They were running a triangle like set a few trips down
You know it just dawned on me why they go to the 2-3 zone with Okafor. He's not good out on the perimeter so this kind of protects him from having to do that. Plumlee is more mobile and agile so they can play more man D.
That could be a problem as bigs operate further from the basket in the NBA
Like I said I'm only interested in his defense at this point
I want to see more Andre Drummond in him
Oh wow Okafor that was nice, great finish
Very good passer out of the double team previous possession
Stood strong on the drive went straight up
And the dribble driver didn't budge him
melo!!! thats the way you do it!
Calderon is 1-9 and you still make the right pass!
thats how you build your teammates confidence
nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:See Okafor has to contest drives harder than thatI know big guys are more cognizant of their fouls but still
They were running a triangle like set a few trips down
You know it just dawned on me why they go to the 2-3 zone with Okafor. He's not good out on the perimeter so this kind of protects him from having to do that. Plumlee is more mobile and agile so they can play more man D.
Duke playing 2-3 matchup is partly due to Okafor. But like the nba and nfl, college bb is also a copy cat league. With syracuse's success with the 2-3 and Louisville winning the championship with their version of a 2-3 matchup, the match up zone has been all the rage of college an HS BB for the last couple of years. A lot of college teams are playing matchup zones now a days.
Just started watching the game for a bit.
Not impressed with OK4's helping D at all.
Also saw some plays where he did not even think to box out off the shot.
Unfair for me to be too judgmental, but he seems somewhat uninspired at a time when a killer instinct might help your team put the game away early.
Ive already seen enough of Okafor this year to know he is far and away the best player. He'll need to work on a few fundamentals as he is only 19 but from his point to the next player is far and wide.
I like Omafor offensive game, but it is limited. I like WCS or his partner's game a lot more. They more agile, and are better defenders
is anyone concern with him coming out of Duke? I can not think of a player from Duke since Battier that came out with good defensive fundamentals. I think that would be the first think that a coach needs to focus on with him.
Not sold on this dude, great passer but his defense isnt that good at all from what ive seen.
BRIGGS wrote:Ive already seen enough of Okafor this year to know he is far and away the best player. He'll need to work on a few fundamentals as he is only 19 but from his point to the next player is far and wide.
He is but his defense could be an issue
Especially if a team were to pick him relying on his offense in the system
But what if he's not able to stay on the court defensively
He needs major improvement here
Larry Brown said Mudiay is the best guard he's ever seen
At this age you still want to see him play to gauge the weaknesses
Although understood Mudiay is overseas hurt and not playing
looks like Anthony Davis like talent that would need to build up to me, so if all goes well, in 2-3 seasons he could be a franchise caliber talent if he continues to develop both physically and his skills
F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Ive already seen enough of Okafor this year to know he is far and away the best player. He'll need to work on a few fundamentals as he is only 19 but from his point to the next player is far and wide.
He is but his defense could be an issue
Especially if a team were to pick him relying on his offense in the system
But what if he's not able to stay on the court defensively
He needs major improvement here
Larry Brown said Mudiay is the best guard he's ever seen
At this age you still want to see him play to gauge the weaknesses
]Although understood Mudiay is overseas hurt and not playing
Really wish we had a chance to do a true evaluation of his game.
Playing would also help his game mature.
Any chance that he plays in organized ball again?
Tough to take a guy with so little significant data to go on.
Carl Towns is the better out of the bigs.
RonRon wrote:looks like Anthony Davis like talent that would need to build up to me, so if all goes well, in 2-3 seasons he could be a franchise caliber talent if he continues to develop both physically and his skills
? The guy is 270 pounds Davis is lucky to push 225. I like Davis but his frame may not allow him to play even 3 consecutive 80 game seasons.
What you're getting with Oakfor? Hes going to be able to dominate the low block from the 4--command double teams--grab 10 rebounds a game score 20-30 points every night in the 60% region. Hes a very decent man on man and team defender. Not a great shotblocker but should avg 1.5. Should avg 4-5 assists per game.
Who is the great shot-blocker or defender on GS or Atlanta? How about they have a bunch of great players who play great team basketball. Thats what I think Okafor is a great player who plays team basketball. I don't want to compare Towns to Okafor--Towns could potentially do more--that is possible but hes also showed that he still has a long way to go. Okafor is proven already. Im still not sure whether Towns is better than Portis. The guy after Okafor is likely Russell but it will be fluid all year. Would love to see Towns put together 7-8 straight 12-7-3 games in 24 minutes(and maybe one game Cal lets him go 30 minutes) --but he hasnt come close to that yet
