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Green is a restricted free agent, it's going to be difficult for Golden State to keep him with the money they have committed to Steph, Iggy, Klay, Bogut and Lee. I've liked him since he played at Michigan State, compared him to Anthony Mason coming out of the draft because of his ability to handle the ball at his size, pass, his versatility and defense.

He's having a tremendous defensive year as a combo forward for the Warriors. He's quick enough laterally to hang with 3's and has the brute strength to guard 4's, he's even defended 5's like Marc Gasol. He has some of the quickest strongest hands in the league averaging about 1.5 blocks and 1.5 steals a game, dudes defensive I.Q. is just through the roof. He's on pace to accumulate over 6 defensive win shares (leading the league at the moment) only forwards to have done that recently are LeBron James ('09) and Paul George ('13). Historically, the other guys to have done it are Marion ('01), Pippen ('94, '95), Havlicek ('69), DeBusschere ('71) and Rodman ('91).

He's leading the league in defensive rating as well, and ranks fourth in defensive box plus minus behind Bogut, Gobert and Duncan. The Warriors are 6 points worse with him off the floor, take into account even with him off the floor they are an elite defense his impact is ridiculous.

I'd offer him a max contract thoughts? Here's his mixtape just for you guys who don't get to see him.

Draymond Green '14-'15: 11.5 points, 8 rebounds, 3.5 assists, 1.6 steals, 1.5 blocks, 54% TS, 32 minutes

One of my friends at another forum compared him favorably to Dave DeBusschere quite interesting wouldn't mind if you guys give it a read if you have the time...

http://hoops-nation.com/community/topic/116124-draymond-green-is-this-generations-dave-debusschere/

Knicks1969 wrote:I like that dude..... I like him a lot.

Instead of looking at guys like Butler, Leonard, LMA and Marc Gasol we should be looking at guys like Millsap, Dragic and Green.

STATMELO wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:I like that dude..... I like him a lot.

This is the guy we need, he doesn't excel in any area but he does everything well. He could transform our team on the defensive end, because of his ability to provide help and hustle. He's the ultimate glue guy. He's a more realistic target than Butler and Leonard. Quite frankly he's a more impactful player than Leonard.

Instead of looking at guys like Butler, Leonard, LMA and Marc Gasol we should be looking at guys like Millsap, Dragic and Green.

Sadly, GS will not let this dude walk. He is the heart and soul of that team

Knicks1969 wrote:

STATMELO wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:I like that dude..... I like him a lot.

This is the guy we need, he doesn't excel in any area but he does everything well. He could transform our team on the defensive end, because of his ability to provide help and hustle. He's the ultimate glue guy. He's a more realistic target than Butler and Leonard. Quite frankly he's a more impactful player than Leonard.

Instead of looking at guys like Butler, Leonard, LMA and Marc Gasol we should be looking at guys like Millsap, Dragic and Green.

Sadly, GS will not let this dude walk. He is the heart and soul of that team

The Warriors owner is cheap, but I'm thinking they dump Lee at the deadline and match any offer. With the salary cap going up I could see them paying that luxury tax as well.

we don't need to spend 12-15 million on glue guys... we need young talent who can be transformative...

FistOfOakley wrote:as good as he is.. and i loved him in college.... he's only been able to do this for half a nba season so far...

we don't need to spend 12-15 million on glue guys... we need young talent who can be transformative...

Sorry dude, this kid is not a glue guy. He is well worth the money. You are to be able to see what a kid will be from the jump. This dude can only get better from where he is right now. He will be a hell of a leader.

STATMELO wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

STATMELO wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:I like that dude..... I like him a lot.

This is the guy we need, he doesn't excel in any area but he does everything well. He could transform our team on the defensive end, because of his ability to provide help and hustle. He's the ultimate glue guy. He's a more realistic target than Butler and Leonard. Quite frankly he's a more impactful player than Leonard.

Instead of looking at guys like Butler, Leonard, LMA and Marc Gasol we should be looking at guys like Millsap, Dragic and Green.

Sadly, GS will not let this dude walk. He is the heart and soul of that team

The Warriors owner is cheap, but I'm thinking they dump Lee at the deadline and match any offer. With the salary cap going up I could see them paying that luxury tax as well.

I think they will soon dump Lee too. Can we perhaps go and get Lee back? The dude can still ball with the best of them. He rebounds and score the ball efficiently. He is the passer we need in the front court

To try and trade with GSW for Lee-Iggy-Green

Green was the target for the trade, wonderful player

Some of his stat lines for the season have been bananas

F500ONE wrote:I made a thread very early in the yr

To try and trade with GSW for Lee-Iggy-Green

Green was the target for the trade, wonderful player

Some of his stat lines for the season have been bananas

I would love to have Iggy and Gree. But GS would be stupid to let these dudes go

if I was him, I would probably take a little less to stay on GS for a few more years and see how things play out with that franchise.

Maybe you're part of something special, and maybe your talents are maximized on that team with the roster they have and the way they play.

I would like to have him on this team- as someone said, he does a little bit of everything- but I think he looks at GS and realizes he is in the perfect situation at this point in his career. Why move to a rebuilding team for a few million more?

he's a nice player.. danny green is also a nice player.. but these are the type of guys you get after you have guys like klay and curry... we have melo and that's about it...

FistOfOakley wrote:as good as he is.. and i loved him in college.... he's only been able to do this for half a nba season so far...

we don't need to spend 12-15 million on glue guys... we need young talent who can be transformative...

Green is a transformative young talent. What is a transformative young talent? Kawhi?

Even last year he showed flashes in the RS, and was a beast when he stepped in the playoffs after Bogut's injury. He was HUGE for them in game 6 against the Clippers.

Melo is just going to have to play the 3 if we had him there's really no problem with that...

Knicks1969 wrote:

FistOfOakley wrote:as good as he is.. and i loved him in college.... he's only been able to do this for half a nba season so far...

we don't need to spend 12-15 million on glue guys... we need young talent who can be transformative...

Sorry dude, this kid is not a glue guy. He is well worth the money. You are to be able to see what a kid will be from the jump. This dude can only get better from where he is right now. He will be a hell of a leader.

Before this year nobody was really talking about Green. Overpaying a player like this exactly what the Knicks have done historically. He's undersized too at 6'7".

We need to talk to everyone and try to find the right mix, but we also need to be fiscally responsible.

FistOfOakley wrote:problem with taking green is that he moves melo off of the 4 which is his best position.... he's a very good player who's talents are being maximized because he has guys like klay and curry...

he's a nice player.. danny green is also a nice player.. but these are the type of guys you get after you have guys like klay and curry... we have melo and that's about it...

If I were this dude, there is no way I would want to leave a winning program like GS for the KNICKS. The game looks so much better when you watch teams like GS or Spurs play.

EnySpree wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

FistOfOakley wrote:as good as he is.. and i loved him in college.... he's only been able to do this for half a nba season so far...

we don't need to spend 12-15 million on glue guys... we need young talent who can be transformative...

Sorry dude, this kid is not a glue guy. He is well worth the money. You are to be able to see what a kid will be from the jump. This dude can only get better from where he is right now. He will be a hell of a leader.

Before this year nobody was really talking about Green. Overpaying a player like this exactly what the Knicks have done historically. He's undersized too at 6'7".

We need to talk to everyone and try to find the right mix, but we also need to be fiscally responsible.

It doesn't matter that he's undersized he's had no problems defending 3-5 and is averaging 8 boards...people have been talking about Green since last years playoffs. This is the first year he's getting big minutes. I don't think y'all understand how good this kid is.

EnySpree wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

FistOfOakley wrote:as good as he is.. and i loved him in college.... he's only been able to do this for half a nba season so far...

we don't need to spend 12-15 million on glue guys... we need young talent who can be transformative...

Sorry dude, this kid is not a glue guy. He is well worth the money. You are to be able to see what a kid will be from the jump. This dude can only get better from where he is right now. He will be a hell of a leader.

Before this year nobody was really talking about Green. Overpaying a player like this exactly what the Knicks have done historically. He's undersized too at 6'7".

We need to talk to everyone and try to find the right mix, but we also need to be fiscally responsible.

Historically, the Knicks have paid one trick ponies a lot of money and never valued two-way all around basketball players.

Knicks1969 wrote:

FistOfOakley wrote:problem with taking green is that he moves melo off of the 4 which is his best position.... he's a very good player who's talents are being maximized because he has guys like klay and curry...

he's a nice player.. danny green is also a nice player.. but these are the type of guys you get after you have guys like klay and curry... we have melo and that's about it...

If I were this dude, there is no way I would want to leave a winning program like GS for the KNICKS. The game looks so much better when you watch teams like GS or Spurs play.

i'd rather have tobias harris to be honest since he has a small chance to be a game changer on offense.. fit be damned...

FistOfOakley wrote:i have no problem getting guys like dray or danny green.. it's just we are so talent devoid right now they don't move the needle much for us...

i'd rather have tobias harris to be honest since he has a small chance to be a game changer on offense.. fit be damned...

Tobias Harris is not better than Green...you think Green is just a system player he's more than that. Melo Jr. is a way worse fit and isn't even near the impact player that Green is come on...

STATMELO wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

FistOfOakley wrote:as good as he is.. and i loved him in college.... he's only been able to do this for half a nba season so far...

we don't need to spend 12-15 million on glue guys... we need young talent who can be transformative...

Sorry dude, this kid is not a glue guy. He is well worth the money. You are to be able to see what a kid will be from the jump. This dude can only get better from where he is right now. He will be a hell of a leader.

Before this year nobody was really talking about Green. Overpaying a player like this exactly what the Knicks have done historically. He's undersized too at 6'7".

We need to talk to everyone and try to find the right mix, but we also need to be fiscally responsible.

It doesn't matter that he's undersized he's had no problems defending 3-5 and is averaging 8 boards...people have been talking about Green since last years playoffs. This is the first year he's getting big minutes. I don't think y'all understand how good this kid is.

He's the it kid. If he's so good then we have no shot at him. I'm not willing to over pay the dude. Let golden state do that