Knicks · OT: belicheat (page 2)

gunsnewing @ 1/22/2015 3:50 PM
I hear it was Mangini who outed Belichek on spygate. Mangini alerted the league when the Jets were playing the Pats. Explains why Belichek then refused to shake Mangini's hand
Vmart @ 1/22/2015 4:13 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
Vmart wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
Vmart wrote:I personally think they aren't cheaters they know how to win and it rubs other fans the wrong way. So they look for excuses like under inflated balls or spy gate. Nonsense like that.

How is spy gate or a extra mic in tom Brady's helmet not cheating how is altering a football to give you a advantage not cheating.. If you know what the other team is calling on offense or defense because you taped there practice and know there hand signals and formations not cheating? It's also funny that since they got caught they haven't won a SB since ...

What do you think of Don Shula?

A great coach who didn't cheat to beat his opponent... That's why belicheat will never be on the greatest coach talk he did it to himself

This is the same coach who water logged the playing field in the Orange bowl AFC championship game vs the jets.

fishmike @ 1/22/2015 4:45 PM
TripleThreat wrote:
fitzfarm wrote: Come on nfl send the proper message... No cheating!


IMHO, the moral of the story to me is just don't be a gigantic dickhead, even when you could get away with it.

In 2007, Belichick was angry about the SpyGate thing, so he just kept running up the score with Brady (then in his full prime) and Randy Moss and Wes Welker and simply torched team after team. Setting offensive records along the way. Things like throwing on 4th down or even gunning for more points when when the game was in hand.

Then being generally a jerk to the press and keeping that entire "Screw you" attitude. Everything Belichick does is like he takes it personally. The league requires teams issue an injury report, so he lists everyone, every week. The league requires coaches to wear NFL branded gear during games, so he cuts up his sweatshirt like a hobo for games. While I think he's a brilliant coach and maybe one of the best football minds ever, it just seems every last thing to Belichick is an open grudge match.

You act like that, then other people will want to start gunning for you. You put a target on your back. I'm not saying Belichick should go around kissing people's butts. But you have to show some basic diplomacy in a job like that. Phil Jackson can manipulate and use the media because he knows how to work them. To help them by giving them quotes and certain access to make their jobs easier. In exchange, he probably uses them to send public messages to players and to bury other smaller stories they could run.

You run roughshod over and over again, you are going to find enemies at every turn, all looking to snitch you out. I'm sure more than the Saints had bounties and more than the Patriots had some dirty deeds with filming, but it's bad blood and ill will thrown around that probably incited those problems.

Don't be over the top rude to your waitress because the cook just might spit in your food. To me, that's a concept that should be applied everywhere.

good post and simple message. You reap what you sow. Karma is a force of nature
BasketballJones @ 1/22/2015 6:52 PM
Tom Brady on his balls:


  • When I pick those balls out, at that point, to me they’re perfect. I don’t want anyone touching the balls after that, I don’t anyone want rubbing them...

  • Those balls are perfect and that’s what I expect when I go out on the field.

  • I’m not squeezing the balls. That’s not part of my process.

gunsnewing @ 1/22/2015 7:03 PM
TripleThreat wrote:
fitzfarm wrote: Come on nfl send the proper message... No cheating!


IMHO, the moral of the story to me is just don't be a gigantic dickhead, even when you could get away with it.

In 2007, Belichick was angry about the SpyGate thing, so he just kept running up the score with Brady (then in his full prime) and Randy Moss and Wes Welker and simply torched team after team. Setting offensive records along the way. Things like throwing on 4th down or even gunning for more points when when the game was in hand.

Then being generally a jerk to the press and keeping that entire "Screw you" attitude. Everything Belichick does is like he takes it personally. The league requires teams issue an injury report, so he lists everyone, every week. The league requires coaches to wear NFL branded gear during games, so he cuts up his sweatshirt like a hobo for games. While I think he's a brilliant coach and maybe one of the best football minds ever, it just seems every last thing to Belichick is an open grudge match.

You act like that, then other people will want to start gunning for you. You put a target on your back. I'm not saying Belichick should go around kissing people's butts. But you have to show some basic diplomacy in a job like that. Phil Jackson can manipulate and use the media because he knows how to work them. To help them by giving them quotes and certain access to make their jobs easier. In exchange, he probably uses them to send public messages to players and to bury other smaller stories they could run.

You run roughshod over and over again, you are going to find enemies at every turn, all looking to snitch you out. I'm sure more than the Saints had bounties and more than the Patriots had some dirty deeds with filming, but it's bad blood and ill will thrown around that probably incited those problems.

Don't be over the top rude to your waitress because the cook just might spit in your food. To me, that's a concept that should be applied everywhere.

Great post and even with all that said he will probably get away with a slap on the wrist from the league after the super bowl is played.

League is in a lose/lose situation because the douchebag that is. Belichek. Suspend bill and Brady for the biggest sporting event in America? Or do nothing and continue to hide and postpone Til after the Super Bowl and infuriate fans and other owners?

I would do the right thing. Suspend them. Can't have the Colts replace them.
Suspending them is much better than the necassary evil which would amount to having the officials throw the game for Seattle

Swishfm3 @ 1/22/2015 9:05 PM
Jet fans are always whining about something
dk7th @ 1/22/2015 9:20 PM
i'm rooting HARD for seattle to dismantle the patsies. i love that kid wilson.
F500ONE @ 1/22/2015 9:54 PM
dk7th wrote:i'm rooting HARD for seattle to dismantle the patsies. i love that kid wilson.

Wilson is about as corny as they come[personality

But on s football he that IT factor


Hope Sherman and Chancellor make Brady look awful

I want them to stomp them into the ground

Cartman718 @ 1/23/2015 10:35 AM
seahawks pretty much are a lock now... not to sound like playa but with all the faux pas nfl has had this season, there is no way goodell can allow pats to win.
Vmart @ 1/23/2015 11:47 AM
Cartman718 wrote:seahawks pretty much are a lock now... not to sound like playa but with all the faux pas nfl has had this season, there is no way goodell can allow pats to win.

That would be a worse travesty than anything the Pats did.

OasisBU @ 1/23/2015 10:12 PM
BasketballJones wrote:Tom Brady on his balls:


  • When I pick those balls out, at that point, to me they’re perfect. I don’t want anyone touching the balls after that, I don’t anyone want rubbing them...

  • Those balls are perfect and that’s what I expect when I go out on the field.

  • I’m not squeezing the balls. That’s not part of my process.

Hilarious, can't wait to see them get smoked in the Super Bowl

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