So in the triangle, what would be his better position, PG or SG?
gunsnewing wrote:I think OK4 is more Al Jefferson than Duncan. Maybe whoever drafts him gets lucky and he is closer to Cousins. Either way he is going to be a valuable big. Towns is still my guy though
so he is not duncan?
damn!
Uptown wrote:Today is the first time I actually had the time to watch Russell play a full game and this kid has the look of an NBA Allstar. He does things that you cannot teach:He has elite level instincts in that he's always 1 to 2 plays ahead of everyone else. He sees the play develop before it happens. With this instinct, he is able to slow the game down and play at an even pace while most everyone else seems to be frenetic and in a rush around him. Also, one of the commentators shared a story about Russell, saying his watches videos of his opponents on his own and points things out in the vids to his teammates. This is what self-motivated, leaders do. You can tell this kid is going to get better and will be a team leader. Russell also has a presence on the floor. You always notice him when he is on the floor even without the ball because he understands how to move without the ball.
Russell is the real deal and at this point, I'd take him over Towns. Of course things could change as the season progresses but besides Russells obvious talent, he just has those intangibles that you dont teach.
I love Russell but how do any of us know if Mudiay won't be better since we don't have any real tape to watch of the kid going against our style players??
NardDogNation wrote:If we get the no.1 pick, I'd look to trade down for Dieng and the Wolves' pick to select Russell.
Dieng is looking like the real deal for a young big so i'm not sure the Wolves would want to trade him if they're in the top 5 and they know they can get either another big or S.Johnson or D.Russell??
newyorker4ever wrote:NardDogNation wrote:If we get the no.1 pick, I'd look to trade down for Dieng and the Wolves' pick to select Russell.
Dieng is looking like the real deal for a young big so i'm not sure the Wolves would want to trade him if they're in the top 5 and they know they can get either another big or S.Johnson or D.Russell??
I completely agree with you but sometimes teams undervalue their own assets (see us trading away Tyson Chandler for bullshit). Once upon a time, the Flip Saunders-Kevin McHale-Glen Taylor trifecta thought it'd be a good idea to trade away Brandon Roy for Randy Foye, so hopefully the duo of Flip Saunders-Glen Taylor would be inclined to do something that is similarly foolish on draft night. I don't think it'd be too much of a stretch because Okafor is still being considered as a generational talent, which Dieng is not. Given the dearth of talented big men in this league, I think it makes Okafor even more valuable, especially since the Wolves are set at their guard spots with Rubio and Lavine.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/DAngelo-Russell-vs-Louisville-Video-Analysis-4802/
I like Okafor, but I believe the one big who may end up having a brighter career is Stein. He is a freak of nature who is already a super star defender. If this kid can add a few offensive moves to his game, he will be a force to be reckoned with. Stein can take over a game defensively.
blkexec wrote:You pick OK4 with the #1 pick, since thats the most popular pick...Then unload him in a mega deal either to fill out the roster or to a team picking 3rd or 4th. I think Stanley Johnson is a major sleeper, as far as his two way skill set. He could be the next Jimmy Butler or Artest. The top 5 picks have star potential. OK4, Towns, Mudiay, Russell, Johnson.And as I watched OK4 again...he will impact the NBA like Zach Randolph. Duke looked better on defense when OK4 was at PF. And Plumlee was at center.
+1
I think you get more value by doing that. Okafor will be a star but not a franchise player... Duncan was more athletic in college and I see Okafor having problems with a higher level of play in the NBA.
I really like Mudiay and Russell... Russell has a quick release and a high percentage that i think will translate in the NBA really well, when he shoots it looks effortless. Everything he does is smooth. Mudiay is not as smooth as Russell but I think he will be a superstar like a Westbrook type this kid has skill and athleticism . Towns also will be a star but not a franchise type player.
I agree if we get the first pick i'd trade it for the number 3.
Stevo718 wrote:blkexec wrote:You pick OK4 with the #1 pick, since thats the most popular pick...Then unload him in a mega deal either to fill out the roster or to a team picking 3rd or 4th. I think Stanley Johnson is a major sleeper, as far as his two way skill set. He could be the next Jimmy Butler or Artest. The top 5 picks have star potential. OK4, Towns, Mudiay, Russell, Johnson.And as I watched OK4 again...he will impact the NBA like Zach Randolph. Duke looked better on defense when OK4 was at PF. And Plumlee was at center.
+1
I think you get more value by doing that. Okafor will be a star but not a franchise player... Duncan was more athletic in college and I see Okafor having problems with a higher level of play in the NBA.
I really like Mudiay and Russell... Russell has a quick release and a high percentage that i think will translate in the NBA really well, when he shoots it looks effortless. Everything he does is smooth. Mudiay is not as smooth as Russell but I think he will be a superstar like a Westbrook type this kid has skill and athleticism . Towns also will be a star but not a franchise type player.
I agree if we get the first pick i'd trade it for the number 3.
I think (assuming the end pick reflects their current records) the Lakers (4 and 24), Sixers (3 and 16) and some other team have 2 first round picks, so if we got lucky and landed the first, we could have that option (if we decided Russell was the player we wanted)- the NY media would blast us though.
BRIGGS wrote:To be pick#1
Briggs...Considering the how L.Galloway has played for us since being called up, do you still look to draft a PG?
Swishfm3 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:To be pick#1
Briggs...Considering the how L.Galloway has played for us since being called up, do you still look to draft a PG?
BPA with the pick. Period. You can adjust your FA signings accordingly
Swishfm3 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:To be pick#1
Briggs...Considering the how L.Galloway has played for us since being called up, do you still look to draft a PG?
I dont even consider Galloway a PG. Russell is going to be an NBA superstar
Ohio State has funny team. Russell leads them in rebounding. They are ranked as one of the worst rebounding teams, best scoring teams, highest scoring eff% teams and Russell is the motor that drives that ship and they have a very good record.
If that team makes a deep March run behind Russell's play he goes #2, unless Phili is #1 and simply decides they have enough bigs and go with Russell.
BRIGGS wrote:Swishfm3 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:To be pick#1
Briggs...Considering the how L.Galloway has played for us since being called up, do you still look to draft a PG?
I dont even consider Galloway a PG. Russell is going to be an NBA superstar
I don't consider Russell a PG either. But Galloway holds steady and doesn't go full Toney Douglas, I could see him working with Russell.
From what I have seen of him, he strikes me as a bulldog with a great shot who takes it to the rack with good court vision. He also seems somewhat sluggish on defense at times, which kind of scares me.
draftexpress just bumped Russell to #2 behind OK4
fishmike wrote:draftexpress just bumped Russell to #2 behind OK4
The one (only) thing that scares me about Russell is his zone defense. He's not accustomed to playing man in college, and thats needed in the NBA. So his defense is a risk.....Just like Mudiay's jumper is a risk. But what if you knew the future and Mudiay improved his jumper like John Wall did? Then Mudiay might be the pick, since he's fastest and more athletic, which means he will be able to hold his own on defense.
I don't know, but Mudiay seems like a solid player with NBA level confidence. And if he has a strong head and maturity, then the sky is the limit. BUT, he could also be like D.Rose.....A player with elite athleticism derailed by an ACL / achilles injuries, which will change his game completely. Russell's game is less on athleticism and more on execution. This tells me that Russell may have a longer career, and less injury prone.
blkexec wrote:fishmike wrote:draftexpress just bumped Russell to #2 behind OK4
The one (only) thing that scares me about Russell is his zone defense. He's not accustomed to playing man in college, and thats needed in the NBA. So his defense is a risk.....Just like Mudiay's jumper is a risk. But what if you knew the future and Mudiay improved his jumper like John Wall did? Then Mudiay might be the pick, since he's fastest and more athletic, which means he will be able to hold his own on defense.
I don't know, but Mudiay seems like a solid player with NBA level confidence. And if he has a strong head and maturity, then the sky is the limit. BUT, he could also be like D.Rose.....A player with elite athleticism derailed by an ACL / achilles injuries, which will change his game completely. Russell's game is less on athleticism and more on execution. This tells me that Russell may have a longer career, and less injury prone.
There is no doubt that Mundiay has more potential because he is an elite athlete, but Russell is an established player with a skillset to dominate at any level. Similar to guys like Curry, Lillard, and Harden, production should overrule untapped potential to an extent. What this guy is doing as a freshman at the college level is overly impressive. He seems like he is a good enough athlete to continue at the nba level.
blkexec wrote:fishmike wrote:draftexpress just bumped Russell to #2 behind OK4
The one (only) thing that scares me about Russell is his zone defense. He's not accustomed to playing man in college, and thats needed in the NBA. So his defense is a risk.....Just like Mudiay's jumper is a risk. But what if you knew the future and Mudiay improved his jumper like John Wall did? Then Mudiay might be the pick, since he's fastest and more athletic, which means he will be able to hold his own on defense.
I don't know, but Mudiay seems like a solid player with NBA level confidence. And if he has a strong head and maturity, then the sky is the limit. BUT, he could also be like D.Rose.....A player with elite athleticism derailed by an ACL / achilles injuries, which will change his game completely. Russell's game is less on athleticism and more on execution. This tells me that Russell may have a longer career, and less injury prone.
and more versatile.. Steph Curry?
