The article yesterday about how he was surprised that he had to motivate guys to play in the NBA and then today this quote:
Fisher seems to be enjoying coaching a team more in his image. He indicated he feels the triangle is better off without proven scorers Smith and Iman Shumpert.“I think as you see with a little bit of change from one guy to another guy, a lot of things open up within the offense that you can do,” Fisher said. “I just think it’s our ability to find five guys that can take advantage of all that’s within it. But you need guys like Lance and Lou and Langston that are facilitators of the offense and not constantly looking for shot opportunities for themselves.”
http://nypost.com/2015/01/25/thomas-supp...
I wonder how he feels about Melo.
mreinman wrote:I wonder how he feels about Melo.
Yeah Fisher must really hate Melo
And can't wait until he officially sits out for the season
Probably hoping Amar'e gets waived
That's what I get from Fisher's comments
We know he's not referring to Tyson and Felton
He never coached them and was Shumpert really a ball stopper gunner
Fisher's comments sound very ignorant and front runnerish
Shump is a "proven scorer"? LMAO
H1AND1 wrote:Shump is a "proven scorer"? LMAO
yeah ... I spit my soup all over the floor.
I can't believe how naive some of you are to actual include Carmelo in Fisher's assessments. Every offense needs a main man for it to be solid.
I know some of you are going to foolishly claim that it is not the case with the Spurs. I have news for you: Spurs would have never won this many championships had they not relied heavily on Duncan; Ginobli, and Parker. They always have main cogg that they need to be successful. This year, you can clearly see how important Kahwi Leonard is to that system; specifically, given the age of the aforementioned players.
For any system to be successful, it has to have: workabees, and a king maker. We already know that Carmelo is THE king maker in this system, now we have to find a supporting cast to put around him. The problem with this roster is that we don't have a hierarchy. Other then Carmelo, we have no one else we can consistently count on.
F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:I wonder how he feels about Melo.
Yeah Fisher must really hate Melo
And can't wait until he officially sits out for the season
Probably hoping Amar'e gets waived
That's what I get from Fisher's comments
We know he's not referring to Tyson and Felton
He never coached them and was Shumpert really a ball stopper gunner
Fisher's comments sound very ignorant and front runnerish
That comment makes it sound that way but he has a habit of playing Melo for 40 minutes lately.
H1AND1 wrote:Shump is a "proven scorer"? LMAO
He's a proven shot attemptter
H1AND1 wrote:Shump is a "proven scorer"? LMAO
pretty sure he was mostly referring to JR
gunsnewing wrote:H1AND1 wrote:Shump is a "proven scorer"? LMAO
pretty sure he was mostly referring to JR
J.R. was missing for like a whole month this yr
The team still looked like hot garbage, Fisher comes off
Sounding like a Tom Foolery Buffoonery here
F500ONE wrote:gunsnewing wrote:H1AND1 wrote:Shump is a "proven scorer"? LMAO
pretty sure he was mostly referring to JR
J.R. was missing for like a whole month this yr
The team still looked like hot garbage, Fisher comes off
Sounding like a Tom Foolery Buffoonery here
For you, its a familiar tune.....
To me it looked like he was referring to JR and Shump as not optimal players for the triangle without saying that they couldn't fully grasp it. Instead he chooses a very diplomatic" looking for shot attempts"
ramtour420 wrote:To me it looked like he was referring to JR and Shump as not optimal players for the triangle without saying that they couldn't fully grasp it. Instead he chooses a very diplomatic" looking for shot attempts"
So 2 players who missed near a month of time
Are the ones who tipped the scales to failure
Both playing the guard position in which he refused to
Play THJR for like the first month[whom I assume isn't one he's including in the dumb crowd]
Nice try trying to be the coach translator here but
Fisher is putting his Farts before the 4 meal Course
not surprising as neither player were/are willing passers. neither plays well without the ball in their hands.
Well, we also didn't have the talent to execute a system as well
I brought it up early in the season that we should run other schemes/systems while the strength of many of our players were PnR's
We had multiple shooters and a post player in STAT and a versatile F in CA, mixed in with the shooters we had..
It would allow our players to do better and have better trade value, if we continued to suck, we would lose trade value
And NixLuva replied back that I knew nothing about the Triangle, blah blah, blah blah....
Well Kerr took theories of all systems that he has learned and tweaked it to the strengths of his team
Even theries of the Triangle, and that is why Kerr is good coach and a great mind
Most of the players we have on our roster WILL NOT BE PART OF OUR FUTURE BY NEXT YEAR
So why should we FORCE THEM TO LEARN something thtat they clearly did not understand as a whole and slowly bring it to them, bit by bit
Clearly, building up value for the players we were looking to ship out should have been the #1 goal while slowly implementing the Triangle
While next year we would have hand picked the players that we want and then we fully go all out in running the Triangle with higher IQ players and players that will be part of our future going forward
It just didn't make sense
Is this on Fisher or Phil Jackson?
mreinman wrote:I wonder how he feels about Melo.
Good enough to keep playing him 40+ min it seems
CrushAlot wrote:The article yesterday about how he was surprised that he had to motivate guys to play in the NBA and then today this quote:
Fisher seems to be enjoying coaching a team more in his image. He indicated he feels the triangle is better off without proven scorers Smith and Iman Shumpert.“I think as you see with a little bit of change from one guy to another guy, a lot of things open up within the offense that you can do,” Fisher said. “I just think it’s our ability to find five guys that can take advantage of all that’s within it. But you need guys like Lance and Lou and Langston that are facilitators of the offense and not constantly looking for shot opportunities for themselves.”
http://nypost.com/2015/01/25/thomas-supp...
Pretty telling quote though. It's nice to see Fisher is aware of the selfishness of some of these guys (yes, Melo included). Hopefully we'll see some change.
