New York sportswriters like Frank Isola bang the hype drum just to sell newspapers. A "source" claimed this or that.
Kevin Durant commanding $200M is NOT the topic du jour. Nor is it salivating over Kevin Love.
There is only ONE, "big name" potential free agent worthy of the fuss and he has injury issues - Joakim Noah... and Chicago will not give him up without a fight.
Quality skill sets are not only found on the header of the marquee.
Say what? I'd trade 3 Noah's for 1 Durant
Bonn1997 wrote:Say what? I'd trade 3 Noah's for 1 Durant
So you'd trade 3 Prime Tyson Chandler's for Durant? 
I have to see it to believe it
I would take Durant. Then what do we do with Melo?
Much rather have Anthony Davis
The big name things boring- they ain't going to happen. The Hawks and Pistons have shown you don't even need big names to succeed. I just want us to target two way, non-flashy, good character players, and build on that. Try to get two of: Dragic, Wes Mathews and Beverley. Hope we get Towns or OK4 for the front court, and see if we can get robin Lopez, Asik or Monroe, depending on who we draft.
and draft & develop you own big name player
smackeddog wrote:The big name things boring- they ain't going to happen. The Hawks and Pistons have shown you don't even need big names to succeed. I just want us to target two way, non-flashy, good character players, and build on that
Yeah when you don't have a Lebron or Durant
You don't go searching for the next biggest star or try everything possible
To pipe dream that they'll show up at your doorstep eventually while you toil endlessly
You build a team with players, who by the sum
Of their parts are greater than 1 or 2 stars, which creates the star[s] from within
F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:The big name things boring- they ain't going to happen. The Hawks and Pistons have shown you don't even need big names to succeed. I just want us to target two way, non-flashy, good character players, and build on that
Yeah when you don't have a Lebron or Durant
You don't go searching for the next biggest star or try everything possible
To pipe dream that they'll show up at your doorstep eventually while you toil endlessly
You build a team with players, who by the sum
Of their parts are greater than 1 or 2 stars, which creates the star[s] from within
Looks like we agree on something for a change 
Our bench is roughly set for next season:
SG Tim Jr.
SF Early
PG/SG Gallo,
F Thomas
F Amundson
F Wear
C Cole
Round it off with some cheap vets
smackeddog wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:The big name things boring- they ain't going to happen. The Hawks and Pistons have shown you don't even need big names to succeed. I just want us to target two way, non-flashy, good character players, and build on that
Yeah when you don't have a Lebron or Durant
You don't go searching for the next biggest star or try everything possible
To pipe dream that they'll show up at your doorstep eventually while you toil endlessly
You build a team with players, who by the sum
Of their parts are greater than 1 or 2 stars, which creates the star[s] from within
Looks like we agree on something for a change
George Karl was hoping to accomplish this very thing
While in Denver after the Melo trade
Call him choke artists blah blah blah or whatever
But his principle has always been Spot On if you don't have a Star of Stars
There aren't a bunch of Lebrons and Durants to be had, Matter of fact there's none really
And who likes waiting on these dudes to come off 4-5yr deals
To have a shot at them, now don't get me wrong
Phil should leave his option open for a chance at Durant[whatever odds say] but don't be all in here
Phil has a chance to do what no other exec has been capable of
Crack the code of failure and turn it into success
Create his own standard of executive decisions, his start has been near dreadful
But he has some possible outs on the horizon
Apparently we might be bringing in Horace Grant to join the coaching staff according to Twitter (Begley retweeting some writer interviewing Horace Grant)
F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:The big name things boring- they ain't going to happen. The Hawks and Pistons have shown you don't even need big names to succeed. I just want us to target two way, non-flashy, good character players, and build on that
Yeah when you don't have a Lebron or Durant
You don't go searching for the next biggest star or try everything possible
To pipe dream that they'll show up at your doorstep eventually while you toil endlessly
You build a team with players, who by the sum
Of their parts are greater than 1 or 2 stars, which creates the star[s] from within
Looks like we agree on something for a change
George Karl was hoping to accomplish this very thing
While in Denver after the Melo trade
Call him choke artists blah blah blah or whatever
But his principle has always been Spot On if you don't have a Star of Stars
There aren't a bunch of Lebrons and Durants to be had, Matter of fact there's none really
And who likes waiting on these dudes to come off 4-5yr deals
To have a shot at them, now don't get me wrong
Phil should leave his option open for a chance at Durant[whatever odds say] but don't be all in here
Phil has a chance to do what no other exec has been capable of
Crack the code of failure and turn it into success
Create his own standard of executive decisions, his start has been near dreadful
But he has some possible outs on the horizon
George Karl strategy was working well, until the idiot owner decided to fire him, let the Gm walk and somehow let the talent slowly drain from the roster.
Phil is on the right track. Just forget that brief attempt at trying to get something done with the holdovers. At this point that isn't relevant anymore. After the Draft we'll see what that leaves us with and make decisions from there on what direction to go in FA. Right now Phil is setup to rebuild his core with the right kind of players and they don't have to be Superstars. We all know the names of 2nd and 3rd tier FA's who can give this team good production. Phil will likely leave some room just in case KD does want to come but the overall plan isn't tied to that slim chance. He's taking a more methodical approach now and it should get some tangible results. It's still up in the air but there will be options in front of Phil that can make the team much better. So let the media get crazy with their big names. As long as Phil is grounded and sensible there's nothing to really be concerned with. Phil has made statements that indicate that he is being very reasonable in his approach to FA's. We'll see how it plays out.
smackeddog wrote:Apparently we might be bringing in Horace Grant to join the coaching staff according to Twitter (Begley retweeting some writer interviewing Horace Grant)
Don't like this nepotistic like operation
But if it somehow gets us Jerian Grant[who played against Duke the other day]
Via Twin relation to Harvey, Jerian's dad
In addition to what we have going positively okay
smackeddog wrote:Apparently we might be bringing in Horace Grant to join the coaching staff according to Twitter (Begley retweeting some writer interviewing Horace Grant)
Wow. That would be great.
F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:Apparently we might be bringing in Horace Grant to join the coaching staff according to Twitter (Begley retweeting some writer interviewing Horace Grant)
Don't like this nepotistic like operation
But if it somehow gets us Jerian Grant[who played against Duke the other day]
Via Twin relation to Harvey, Jerian's dad
In addition to what we have going positively okay
I actually don't see a problem with Phil looking at guys he trusts. He coached and trained these guys and he's just nurturing his coaching tree, which hasn't always gotten all the support they need. Here guys will get the support they need and come up in the system which will only serve to reinforce the culture and philosophy Phil believes in. It's a circle of support and one clear direction which this franchise has lacked in the past.
Isola just wanted an eye catching headline. The Knicks aren't putting all their eggs in one basket to chase the flavor of the month star. Phil has said he will try to sign several good players with the cap space. Isola is trying to portray the Knicks as business as usual. A dramatic positive change is taking place. It might not be sensational, easy or quick but it certainly isn't the new plan that relies on getting one mega star.
nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:smackeddog wrote:Apparently we might be bringing in Horace Grant to join the coaching staff according to Twitter (Begley retweeting some writer interviewing Horace Grant)
Don't like this nepotistic like operation
But if it somehow gets us Jerian Grant[who played against Duke the other day]
Via Twin relation to Harvey, Jerian's dad
In addition to what we have going positively okay
I actually don't see a problem with Phil looking at guys he trusts. He coached and trained these guys and he's just nurturing his coaching tree, which hasn't always gotten all the support they need. Here guys will get the support they need and come up in the system which will only serve to reinforce the culture and philosophy Phil believes in. It's a circle of support and one clear direction which this franchise has lacked in the past.
You hire the most qualified not your
Personal cronies exclusively at every chance
If Horace was really a teacher of the craft
And wanted in badly he would have been well known through coaching circles by now
Odom=Bust
Shannon=Busted
MbengedOn=Bustomatic
Not every idea Phil has is always a mercury riser
What's funny about trying to get the free agents is the media throes it out there that the Knicks need to do what they can to get so and so..... then when they get here "can they share the ball?"
I'm sick of it really. You hand to manage your team and keep yourself flexible enough to make necessary moves.....necessary moves. We just have to keep building our team.
Im glad we are moving away from this "superstar" and "big three" era, at least in NY.
We are set on building a team based on a system. We need as much talent as possible in the starting lineup, so after cementing Melo as the star, we will spread the wealth, welcome the lottery selection and fill the rest with many talented and hungry players from the DLeague and overseas.
Its good to have a sensible plan for a change.
Why Can't Kevin Love Play Defense?
EnySpree wrote:What's funny about trying to get the free agents is the media throes it out there that the Knicks need to do what they can to get so and so..... then when they get here "can they share the ball?"I'm sick of it really. You hand to manage your team and keep yourself flexible enough to make necessary moves.....necessary moves. We just have to keep building our team.
EnySpree - each night the Atlanta Hawks drop more than 30 assists it reminds The Answer Man of the days when the New York Knicks routinely had seven or eight players in double figures. It was expected.
We were balanced and beautiful.
Uncle Phil's list of free agents is not the flava flav of the month as forwarded by the NY rumor mongers.
My kingdom for a 6'11 rim protector with passing skills, one patented post move, a 12 foot jumper and the ability to switch out on a stretch four if needed. His running buddy should rebound the ball like Oak and own consistency in his jump shot from 19 feet out.
