Knicks · Knicks 29th in scoring 29 in rebounding 25th in shot blocking (page 1)

BRIGGS @ 2/13/2015 10:25 AM
It's a disaster across the board. On both sides of the ball we have troubles but the worst one if offense.

Our offense compared to the best teams is just brutal with a differential of 12-18 points. We need guys in the post who can score--forget about this big man needs a mid range jumpshot BS--we need a guy we can throw the ball into and he can score at a good % which will help our perimeter players with better looks. I really do not know what they were thinking with Lou Admundson--in a day where the 4 position flat out needs to score--this guy still cant hit an open jumper at age 32. We have a bunch of guys shooting below 40% or close to it. I think help starts in the post --it really does.

The thinking on my part is be aggressive in this draft and maybe go for 2-3 big guys who can play and then maybe spend "some" of our cash on the perimeter

smackeddog @ 2/13/2015 10:27 AM
And number 1 in lottery balls- I'll take it!

Who cares about our ranking on offence and defines this year? Only 5 or 6 players will remain- we're just looking for minimum salary bench players at this point.

NYKBocker @ 2/13/2015 10:34 AM
I guess if you are going to tank then tank well.
SupremeCommander @ 2/13/2015 10:39 AM
NYKBocker wrote:I guess if you are going to tank then tank well.

+1... this season was a disaster from the get go

earthmansurfer @ 2/13/2015 11:28 AM
This just tells me our tank is on course.

I just hope we get a few miracles: 1. Draft 2. FA

JesseDark @ 2/13/2015 11:48 AM
Amudson is not a long term answer, but him and the other 10 day contract guys made the team more watchable and at least they play with heart.
BRIGGS @ 2/13/2015 12:33 PM
JesseDark wrote:Amudson is not a long term answer, but him and the other 10 day contract guys made the team more watchable and at least they play with heart.

Id rather Quincy Acy Early or Wear get the 30 minutes then

Nalod @ 2/13/2015 4:13 PM
BRIGGS wrote:It's a disaster across the board. On both sides of the ball we have troubles but the worst one if offense.

Our offense compared to the best teams is just brutal with a differential of 12-18 points. We need guys in the post who can score--forget about this big man needs a mid range jumpshot BS--we need a guy we can throw the ball into and he can score at a good % which will help our perimeter players with better looks. I really do not know what they were thinking with Lou Admundson--in a day where the 4 position flat out needs to score--this guy still cant hit an open jumper at age 32. We have a bunch of guys shooting below 40% or close to it. I think help starts in the post --it really does.

The thinking on my part is be aggressive in this draft and maybe go for 2-3 big guys who can play and then maybe spend "some" of our cash on the perimeter

Wins and losses. Great thread.

Lets see. We don't score as many points as our opponents, and we give up points!!!!!
Some serious keen analytic shyt your bringing here.
So you think we should bring in better players going forward. Deep.

Don't worry bro, your gonna look good, I think you suggested like 30 players this year we should draft if we had picks, so when a few stick, like spagetti to the wall, you can say "told ya so!!!"

Sorry to be a bytch here. 90% of your stuff is good, but to start a thread with each synapse that pops in your head will leave you with a few duds.
Im not immune to it either!!!!

BRIGGS @ 2/13/2015 5:16 PM
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:It's a disaster across the board. On both sides of the ball we have troubles but the worst one if offense.

Our offense compared to the best teams is just brutal with a differential of 12-18 points. We need guys in the post who can score--forget about this big man needs a mid range jumpshot BS--we need a guy we can throw the ball into and he can score at a good % which will help our perimeter players with better looks. I really do not know what they were thinking with Lou Admundson--in a day where the 4 position flat out needs to score--this guy still cant hit an open jumper at age 32. We have a bunch of guys shooting below 40% or close to it. I think help starts in the post --it really does.

The thinking on my part is be aggressive in this draft and maybe go for 2-3 big guys who can play and then maybe spend "some" of our cash on the perimeter

Wins and losses. Great thread.

Lets see. We don't score as many points as our opponents, and we give up points!!!!!
Some serious keen analytic shyt your bringing here.
So you think we should bring in better players going forward. Deep.

Don't worry bro, your gonna look good, I think you suggested like 30 players this year we should draft if we had picks, so when a few stick, like spagetti to the wall, you can say "told ya so!!!"

Sorry to be a bytch here. 90% of your stuff is good, but to start a thread with each synapse that pops in your head will leave you with a few duds.
Im not immune to it either!!!!

Actually this thread has tremendous relevance is completely on topic and if you don't want to read it cool-just bypass it to the next 1 did you know we were 25th in shot blocking and maybe others didn't did u know we were 29th in scoring despite having a top 5 scorer? It all adds up when discussing what the team needs

H1AND1 @ 2/13/2015 5:45 PM
Hallelujah this happens the year we actually have a pick that isn't traded or swapped. Give me Russell manning the backcourt for his entire career.
dk7th @ 2/13/2015 5:50 PM
BRIGGS wrote:It's a disaster across the board. On both sides of the ball we have troubles but the worst one if offense.

Our offense compared to the best teams is just brutal with a differential of 12-18 points. We need guys in the post who can score--forget about this big man needs a mid range jumpshot BS--we need a guy we can throw the ball into and he can score at a good % which will help our perimeter players with better looks. I really do not know what they were thinking with Lou Admundson--in a day where the 4 position flat out needs to score--this guy still cant hit an open jumper at age 32. We have a bunch of guys shooting below 40% or close to it. I think help starts in the post --it really does.

The thinking on my part is be aggressive in this draft and maybe go for 2-3 big guys who can play and then maybe spend "some" of our cash on the perimeter

wrong.

the triangle requires well-conditioned, heady athletes who can defend the position and move without the ball relentlessly. the midrange shot is making a comeback. the contested midrange shot is a ow-percentage shot, but the triangle is meant to create open looks from midrange. holzman taught jackson and those championship knick teams to "find the open man."

drafting okafor may turn into a big mistake-- reports say he is not well-conditioned and is a sub-standard defender.

BRIGGS @ 2/13/2015 10:16 PM
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:It's a disaster across the board. On both sides of the ball we have troubles but the worst one if offense.

Our offense compared to the best teams is just brutal with a differential of 12-18 points. We need guys in the post who can score--forget about this big man needs a mid range jumpshot BS--we need a guy we can throw the ball into and he can score at a good % which will help our perimeter players with better looks. I really do not know what they were thinking with Lou Admundson--in a day where the 4 position flat out needs to score--this guy still cant hit an open jumper at age 32. We have a bunch of guys shooting below 40% or close to it. I think help starts in the post --it really does.

The thinking on my part is be aggressive in this draft and maybe go for 2-3 big guys who can play and then maybe spend "some" of our cash on the perimeter

wrong.

the triangle requires well-conditioned, heady athletes who can defend the position and move without the ball relentlessly. the midrange shot is making a comeback. the contested midrange shot is a ow-percentage shot, but the triangle is meant to create open looks from midrange. holzman taught jackson and those championship knick teams to "find the open man."

drafting okafor may turn into a big mistake-- reports say he is not well-conditioned and is a sub-standard defender.

Yeah Shaq was running around the mid court range:) You need post players I dont care what the system is called. You need to be able to throw the ball into the post.

dk7th @ 2/13/2015 11:16 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:It's a disaster across the board. On both sides of the ball we have troubles but the worst one if offense.

Our offense compared to the best teams is just brutal with a differential of 12-18 points. We need guys in the post who can score--forget about this big man needs a mid range jumpshot BS--we need a guy we can throw the ball into and he can score at a good % which will help our perimeter players with better looks. I really do not know what they were thinking with Lou Admundson--in a day where the 4 position flat out needs to score--this guy still cant hit an open jumper at age 32. We have a bunch of guys shooting below 40% or close to it. I think help starts in the post --it really does.

The thinking on my part is be aggressive in this draft and maybe go for 2-3 big guys who can play and then maybe spend "some" of our cash on the perimeter

wrong.

the triangle requires well-conditioned, heady athletes who can defend the position and move without the ball relentlessly. the midrange shot is making a comeback. the contested midrange shot is a ow-percentage shot, but the triangle is meant to create open looks from midrange. holzman taught jackson and those championship knick teams to "find the open man."

drafting okafor may turn into a big mistake-- reports say he is not well-conditioned and is a sub-standard defender.

Yeah Shaq was running around the mid court range:) You need post players I dont care what the system is called. You need to be able to throw the ball into the post.

no, briggs. come on man. who are the knicks going to resemble in your imagination, the lakers with wilt or russells' celtics? which teams usually won? and when the knicks beat the lakers twice for their two only titles, who did those knicks resemble more, the team they beat or the team that beat them before we beat them? and what style of ball do you think jackson wants to play?

all that said i'll give you this: when shaq became a great passer he started leading his teams to titles. shaq's passing in his prime was an overlooked skill he developed.

BRIGGS @ 2/14/2015 12:03 AM
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:It's a disaster across the board. On both sides of the ball we have troubles but the worst one if offense.

Our offense compared to the best teams is just brutal with a differential of 12-18 points. We need guys in the post who can score--forget about this big man needs a mid range jumpshot BS--we need a guy we can throw the ball into and he can score at a good % which will help our perimeter players with better looks. I really do not know what they were thinking with Lou Admundson--in a day where the 4 position flat out needs to score--this guy still cant hit an open jumper at age 32. We have a bunch of guys shooting below 40% or close to it. I think help starts in the post --it really does.

The thinking on my part is be aggressive in this draft and maybe go for 2-3 big guys who can play and then maybe spend "some" of our cash on the perimeter

wrong.

the triangle requires well-conditioned, heady athletes who can defend the position and move without the ball relentlessly. the midrange shot is making a comeback. the contested midrange shot is a ow-percentage shot, but the triangle is meant to create open looks from midrange. holzman taught jackson and those championship knick teams to "find the open man."

drafting okafor may turn into a big mistake-- reports say he is not well-conditioned and is a sub-standard defender.

Yeah Shaq was running around the mid court range:) You need post players I dont care what the system is called. You need to be able to throw the ball into the post.

no, briggs. come on man. who are the knicks going to resemble in your imagination, the lakers with wilt or russells' celtics? which teams usually won? and when the knicks beat the lakers twice for their two only titles, who did those knicks resemble more, the team they beat or the team that beat them before we beat them? and what style of ball do you think jackson wants to play?

all that said i'll give you this: when shaq became a great passer he started leading his teams to titles. shaq's passing in his prime was an overlooked skill he developed.

Im not worried about Shaq's passing or any triangles. What we need are some good players. We are really far away from winning right now. We need to find good players and create a winning environment over time. Good players will win games--by the time we have enough Phil Jackson will be long gone from the Knicks.

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