Knicks · So Melo did played with partial tier... how stupid is this? (page 1)

How stupid for everyone involved.

franco12 wrote:I wonder when the tear occurred. Did it happen before he signed his big contract? Would any other team have actually signed him, assuming they would have done a physical first?

How stupid for everyone involved.

Article pointed out to second game of the season... but who knows.
He had some minor issues last season.
I would think he was being checked at least summer time but with Knicks who knows...

arkrud wrote:http://nypost.com/2015/02/23/carmelo-pla...
In general why player with guaranteed contract will do this things to himself?
It was clear from the start of the season that Knicks are not going anywhere.
PJ is no dummy so he does not care if Melo will damage his goods more.
This tells me Melo is out of Zen equation from the beginning.

simrud wrote:I wonder what it is going to take for the them to clear out the house on the medical side of things. Feels like players have been screwed over on injury / rehab since Ewing's wrist.

I agree, the medical situations with the Knicks have been a circus over the years. Added so much unnecessary drama.

Knixkik wrote:

simrud wrote:I wonder what it is going to take for the them to clear out the house on the medical side of things. Feels like players have been screwed over on injury / rehab since Ewing's wrist.

I agree, the medical situations with the Knicks have been a circus over the years. Added so much unnecessary drama.

Phil wanted to, but Dolan veto'd him.

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

simrud wrote:I wonder what it is going to take for the them to clear out the house on the medical side of things. Feels like players have been screwed over on injury / rehab since Ewing's wrist.

I agree, the medical situations with the Knicks have been a circus over the years. Added so much unnecessary drama.

Phil wanted to, but Dolan veto'd him.

The medical staff is for all of MSG not just the basketball team..Still, it's an excuse..These athletes who has the most money on the planet can't see Dr. Andrews like every other athlete.?

fishmike wrote:by the way EVERY time you sprain anything you have a "partial tear"

holfresh wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

simrud wrote:I wonder what it is going to take for the them to clear out the house on the medical side of things. Feels like players have been screwed over on injury / rehab since Ewing's wrist.

I agree, the medical situations with the Knicks have been a circus over the years. Added so much unnecessary drama.

Phil wanted to, but Dolan veto'd him.

The medical staff is for all of MSG not just the basketball team..Still, it's an excuse..These athletes who has the most money on the planet can't see Dr. Andrews like every other athlete.?

Athletes can choose to use their own doctors not MSG booms.
But it will cost them... so it is more greediness on player part, Melo included if his team is really stupid enough to save on using MSG doctors.
Melo is in full right to make decisions on his own body.
He is not a slave and nowhere in his contract he is obligated to shut it down on Knicks request.
My point id PJ does not care about Melo this way or another.
He stated this multiple times before and after the contract extension.
Melo is not part of the solution and he is not part of the problem.
He is like Garden building. Too much money invested to dump it... but it will go away naturally when NY will shut the site down for Port Authority project.

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

simrud wrote:I wonder what it is going to take for the them to clear out the house on the medical side of things. Feels like players have been screwed over on injury / rehab since Ewing's wrist.

I agree, the medical situations with the Knicks have been a circus over the years. Added so much unnecessary drama.

Phil wanted to, but Dolan veto'd him.

The medical staff is for all of MSG not just the basketball team..Still, it's an excuse..These athletes who has the most money on the planet can't see Dr. Andrews like every other athlete.?

Athletes can choose to use their own doctors not MSG booms.
But it will cost them... so it is more greediness on player part, Melo included if his team is really stupid enough to save on using MSG doctors.
Melo is in full right to make decisions on his own body.
He is not a slave and nowhere in his contract he is obligated to shut it down on Knicks request.
My point id PJ does not care about Melo this way or another.
He stated this multiple times before and after the contract extension.
Melo is not part of the solution and he is not part of the problem.
He is like Garden building. Too much money invested to dump it... but it will go away naturally when NY will shut the site down for Port Authority project.

Well I think Melo/the Knicks knew exactly what his situation is and chose to play anyway...It's their choice..This is being overblown in NY because it's what we do..JR had the same surgery in July and missed the first 5 games because of his knee and 5 on drug suspension...We love the drama...

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

simrud wrote:I wonder what it is going to take for the them to clear out the house on the medical side of things. Feels like players have been screwed over on injury / rehab since Ewing's wrist.

I agree, the medical situations with the Knicks have been a circus over the years. Added so much unnecessary drama.

Phil wanted to, but Dolan veto'd him.

The medical staff is for all of MSG not just the basketball team..Still, it's an excuse..These athletes who has the most money on the planet can't see Dr. Andrews like every other athlete.?

Athletes can choose to use their own doctors not MSG booms.
But it will cost them... so it is more greediness on player part, Melo included if his team is really stupid enough to save on using MSG doctors.
Melo is in full right to make decisions on his own body.
He is not a slave and nowhere in his contract he is obligated to shut it down on Knicks request.
My point id PJ does not care about Melo this way or another.
He stated this multiple times before and after the contract extension.
Melo is not part of the solution and he is not part of the problem.
He is like Garden building. Too much money invested to dump it... but it will go away naturally when NY will shut the site down for Port Authority project.

Well I think Melo/the Knicks knew exactly what his situation is and chose to play anyway...It's their choice..This is being overblown in NY because it's what we do..JR had the same surgery in July and missed the first 5 games because of his knee and 5 on drug suspension...We love the drama...

Melo makes 4 times what JR does and there are over 4 years left on his contract. So even if the surgery is supposedly similar, the circumstances and the impact on the franchise is decisively different.

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

simrud wrote:I wonder what it is going to take for the them to clear out the house on the medical side of things. Feels like players have been screwed over on injury / rehab since Ewing's wrist.

I agree, the medical situations with the Knicks have been a circus over the years. Added so much unnecessary drama.

Phil wanted to, but Dolan veto'd him.

The medical staff is for all of MSG not just the basketball team..Still, it's an excuse..These athletes who has the most money on the planet can't see Dr. Andrews like every other athlete.?

Athletes can choose to use their own doctors not MSG booms.
But it will cost them... so it is more greediness on player part, Melo included if his team is really stupid enough to save on using MSG doctors.
Melo is in full right to make decisions on his own body.
He is not a slave and nowhere in his contract he is obligated to shut it down on Knicks request.
My point id PJ does not care about Melo this way or another.
He stated this multiple times before and after the contract extension.
Melo is not part of the solution and he is not part of the problem.
He is like Garden building. Too much money invested to dump it... but it will go away naturally when NY will shut the site down for Port Authority project.

Or could he decide that parachuting is his new hobby, or any other sport which increases his chance of getting hurt?

There are clauses in contracts which prohibit players from doing certain things off the court. Anthony is not a "slave," but is a major "investment," and a company has a right to protect its investment. Given the state of the NBA, in some instances the star on the team is closer to being the "master" than the head coach, and even the GM, especially if he has the tacit support of the owner.

Seems to be some evidence that Anthony was more concerned about promoting his "brand" than taking into consideration the long term success of his team.

If the tear was known about from the beginning, he should have been shut down immediately;

If the knee was not as bad when first tested, then it did get worse, and all the crap we heard about it being OK to play was BS;

If the full extent of the injury was not known until recently, then the Knicks and Anthony are both blameworthy;

If the injury was know about prior to the contract, or if there was no pre-contract physical, then Phil is a fool.

Phil and Fisher could have chosen not to play him, by the way, which, in essence, would shut him down, whether he wanted it or not. It would start a player/management conflict, but I don't think Anthony could force the Knicks to play him, especially if they had a nice x-ray of the tear and a couple of doctors saying it would be better if he didn't play.

Splat wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

simrud wrote:I wonder what it is going to take for the them to clear out the house on the medical side of things. Feels like players have been screwed over on injury / rehab since Ewing's wrist.

I agree, the medical situations with the Knicks have been a circus over the years. Added so much unnecessary drama.

Phil wanted to, but Dolan veto'd him.

The medical staff is for all of MSG not just the basketball team..Still, it's an excuse..These athletes who has the most money on the planet can't see Dr. Andrews like every other athlete.?

Athletes can choose to use their own doctors not MSG booms.
But it will cost them... so it is more greediness on player part, Melo included if his team is really stupid enough to save on using MSG doctors.
Melo is in full right to make decisions on his own body.
He is not a slave and nowhere in his contract he is obligated to shut it down on Knicks request.
My point id PJ does not care about Melo this way or another.
He stated this multiple times before and after the contract extension.
Melo is not part of the solution and he is not part of the problem.
He is like Garden building. Too much money invested to dump it... but it will go away naturally when NY will shut the site down for Port Authority project.

Well I think Melo/the Knicks knew exactly what his situation is and chose to play anyway...It's their choice..This is being overblown in NY because it's what we do..JR had the same surgery in July and missed the first 5 games because of his knee and 5 on drug suspension...We love the drama...

Melo makes 4 times what JR does and there are over 4 years left on his contract. So even if the surgery is supposedly similar, the circumstances and the impact on the franchise is decisively different.

Drama. Overblown, we love it..Melo will be ready for training camp and two games into the preseason no one will remember this...

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

simrud wrote:I wonder what it is going to take for the them to clear out the house on the medical side of things. Feels like players have been screwed over on injury / rehab since Ewing's wrist.

I agree, the medical situations with the Knicks have been a circus over the years. Added so much unnecessary drama.

Phil wanted to, but Dolan veto'd him.

The medical staff is for all of MSG not just the basketball team..Still, it's an excuse..These athletes who has the most money on the planet can't see Dr. Andrews like every other athlete.?

Athletes can choose to use their own doctors not MSG booms.
But it will cost them... so it is more greediness on player part, Melo included if his team is really stupid enough to save on using MSG doctors.
Melo is in full right to make decisions on his own body.
He is not a slave and nowhere in his contract he is obligated to shut it down on Knicks request.
My point id PJ does not care about Melo this way or another.
He stated this multiple times before and after the contract extension.
Melo is not part of the solution and he is not part of the problem.
He is like Garden building. Too much money invested to dump it... but it will go away naturally when NY will shut the site down for Port Authority project.

Well I think Melo/the Knicks knew exactly what his situation is and chose to play anyway...It's their choice..This is being overblown in NY because it's what we do..JR had the same surgery in July and missed the first 5 games because of his knee and 5 on drug suspension...We love the drama...

For whatever reason, Boomer and Carton were on this morning, comparing Melo to being the Arod of the Knicks. Boomer, based on his tweet log (or whatever it's called) determined that a large contingent of Knicks fans just don't like Melo. No explanation, just dislike.

I hate NY media sometimes...precisely because of the unending need for anti-homer drama. Dirty laundry always sells.