gunsnewing wrote:TPercy wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Winslow is having a great tourney run but I worry about his size and length on the next level.
He won't succeed as a 3 at the next level. However, his range will help him become a solid 6'6" SG. He's definitely got the size for that position.
He could succedd, he may be undersized but he has the strengh for it. Not to mention he also has a nice little post up game.
He cannot be stopped
He grew 1.5 inches from 2013 to 2014 according to DraftExpress. The last measurement was 6'6" without shoes.
He's strong, quick, and you see flashes of greatness at times.
And he only just turned 19- he's been 18 for most of this season! You have to think he might grow a bit more. One more inch and he would be over 6'8" in sneakers... can't see that he'd have trouble at the 3.
That celebration and missed assignment after the shot was stupid, though- hopefully Coach K has a sit down with him.
If somebody saw my post b4....I will sound like a broken record. OK4 isnt even the best player on his team. Just goes to show you this is the best year to trade the top pick. Duke is nothing without their best 2WAY player. You are seeing the value of a 2WAY player. Now imagine if you had that at the center position. Get the top pick....select OK4 and work on geting 2 for 1 picks.....any two picks in the first round is better than OK4 and even towns by themselves. You have winslow who might be the best player in the draft. I said this earlier in the season. Russell another top guard. Stanley Johnson....and my favorite Stein. OK4 is no shaq or Duncan......he has great potential but not a lock for a top pick overall....slightly better than Al Jefferson isnt worth a top pick....Anthony Davis freakish potentail in Towns is. Again....trading the top pick might be the best move. Picking Towns is a great 2WAY foundation to build on. This is the only year i would do this....without a clear cut top guy. Phil has the high pick.....cheap players and cap room to turn this team around this year.
WaltLongmire wrote:gunsnewing wrote:TPercy wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Winslow is having a great tourney run but I worry about his size and length on the next level.
He won't succeed as a 3 at the next level. However, his range will help him become a solid 6'6" SG. He's definitely got the size for that position.
He could succedd, he may be undersized but he has the strengh for it. Not to mention he also has a nice little post up game.
He cannot be stopped
He grew 1.5 inches from 2013 to 2014 according to DraftExpress. The last measurement was 6'6" without shoes.
He's strong, quick, and you see flashes of greatness at times.And he only just turned 19- he's been 18 for most of this season! You have to think he might grow a bit more. One more inch and he would be over 6'8" in sneakers... can't see that he'd have trouble at the 3.
That celebration and missed assignment after the shot was stupid, though- hopefully Coach K has a sit down with him.
dammit so he will be listed as 6'7-6'8 SF. What are we going to do with MElo
I like Towns for the Knicks but you can't minimize the talent of OK4. They had to double him so hard and still he was able to pass out of those Doubles. Teams won't really be able to do that if he was on the Knicks with other NBA talent on the floor with him. The spacing is different in the NBA as well. If you put OK4 in the Triangle with all that off ball motion he'll dominate inside.
nixluva wrote:I like Towns for the Knicks but you can't minimize the talent of OK4. They had to double him so hard and still he was able to pass out of those Doubles. Teams won't really be able to do that if he was on the Knicks with other NBA talent on the floor with him. The spacing is different in the NBA as well. If you put OK4 in the Triangle with all that off ball motion he'll dominate inside.
You cant compare college and the nba. College doesnt have any nba bigs. If you noticed BRIGGS tried really hard to boost up whoever Utah big was like he was on the level on Towns....Not even close. And i doubt anybody is sleeping on OK4.....Hes just not the best player in the draft. I think right now he has a very slight edge. But once u get to the nba....and into a free flowing system....with more playing time.....there will be others players with higher potential.
i thought he looked rather ordinary on offense... the doubling is nothing new... him and towns been seeing it all year...
gunsnewing wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:gunsnewing wrote:TPercy wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Winslow is having a great tourney run but I worry about his size and length on the next level.
He won't succeed as a 3 at the next level. However, his range will help him become a solid 6'6" SG. He's definitely got the size for that position.
He could succedd, he may be undersized but he has the strengh for it. Not to mention he also has a nice little post up game.
He cannot be stopped
He grew 1.5 inches from 2013 to 2014 according to DraftExpress. The last measurement was 6'6" without shoes.
He's strong, quick, and you see flashes of greatness at times.And he only just turned 19- he's been 18 for most of this season! You have to think he might grow a bit more. One more inch and he would be over 6'8" in sneakers... can't see that he'd have trouble at the 3.
That celebration and missed assignment after the shot was stupid, though- hopefully Coach K has a sit down with him.
dammit so he will be listed as 6'7-6'8 SF. What are we going to do with MElo
hopefully not lead the league in minutes.
blkexec wrote:nixluva wrote:I like Towns for the Knicks but you can't minimize the talent of OK4. They had to double him so hard and still he was able to pass out of those Doubles. Teams won't really be able to do that if he was on the Knicks with other NBA talent on the floor with him. The spacing is different in the NBA as well. If you put OK4 in the Triangle with all that off ball motion he'll dominate inside.
You cant compare college and the nba. College doesnt have any nba bigs. If you noticed BRIGGS tried really hard to boost up whoever Utah big was like he was on the level on Towns....Not even close. And i doubt anybody is sleeping on OK4.....Hes just not the best player in the draft. I think right now he has a very slight edge. But once u get to the nba....and into a free flowing system....with more playing time.....there will be others players with higher potential.
OK4 is legit and he's smart. He wasn't forcing things tonight. He's patient and looks for his teammates. He's all about winning and doing what's best for the team. I think you're severely underestimating his talent and IQ. OK4's impact is great even when he's not taking a ton of shots. His team is winning playing THROUGH HIM!
nixluva wrote:blkexec wrote:nixluva wrote:I like Towns for the Knicks but you can't minimize the talent of OK4. They had to double him so hard and still he was able to pass out of those Doubles. Teams won't really be able to do that if he was on the Knicks with other NBA talent on the floor with him. The spacing is different in the NBA as well. If you put OK4 in the Triangle with all that off ball motion he'll dominate inside.
You cant compare college and the nba. College doesnt have any nba bigs. If you noticed BRIGGS tried really hard to boost up whoever Utah big was like he was on the level on Towns....Not even close. And i doubt anybody is sleeping on OK4.....Hes just not the best player in the draft. I think right now he has a very slight edge. But once u get to the nba....and into a free flowing system....with more playing time.....there will be others players with higher potential.
OK4 is legit and he's smart. He wasn't forcing things tonight. He's patient and looks for his teammates. He's all about winning and doing what's best for the team. I think you're severely underestimating his talent and IQ. OK4's impact is great even when he's not taking a ton of shots. His team is winning playing THROUGH HIM!
Not at all....OK4 IQ and Talent is very high. Im not doubting him. I still believe he will not be the best player coming out of this draft Or on his team. Its all a lucky guess at this point. Experts are wrong every year...so its ok if im wrong. My gut feeling is winslow will be the better nba pro between the two. And towns has the most upside. Nothing i said knocks OK4 at all. If we draft him....great.....if we dont.....great. Its a deep draft full of solid NBA ROLL PLAYERS with superstar potential.
