April 7 post tourney
1 Karl Towns 6-11 255 PF/C
2 Jahill Okafor 6-11 275 PF/C
3 Justice Winslow SF/SG 6-6 230
4 Deangelo Russell 6-5 190
5 Mario Hezonga 6-8 210
6 Emanuel Mudiay 6-5 200
7 FRank Kaminsky 7-0 245
8 Kristaps Porzingis 7-1 220
9 Trey Lyles 6-10 250 PF
10 Jakob Poetl C 7-0 240
11 Kris Dunn 6-3 200 pg
12 Rashaud Vaughn 6-6 215
13 Tyus Jones 6-1 190 PG
14 Bobby Portis 6-11 245
15 Willie Stein C 7-0 240
16 Stanley Johnson 6-7 240 F
17 Myles Turner 7-0 245
18 Kelly Oubre SG 6-7 200
19 Devin Booker SG 6-6 210
20 Jerian Grant PG 6-5
21 Delon Wright 6-5 PG
22 Cameron Payne PG 6-2 180
23 Kevin Looney PF 6-9 225
24 Montrezel Harrell 6-8 245
25 Brice Johnson PF 6-9 225
26 Jarell Martin 6-9 245 PF
27 Olivier Hanlan PG 6-4 200
28 Jordan Mickey F 6-8 240
29 Deandre Bembrey SG 6-7 200
30 Sam Decker F 6-9 230
Ive been saying Hezonja is another TMac caliber player for awhile. Kaminsky should not be behind guys like Poetl, Porzingiz, Lyles??? He should be #7 in your mock.
Briggs- thanks. It will be interesting to see how many you get right both in terms of where teams pick and in 2-4 years once we have a body of work for these players.
Just a footnote
I had Deandre Bembry in my initial mock at #10 and he said he was staying 4 years and I omitted him . But now hes had a change of heart--he's close to a Scottie Pippen clone type player and he will be without doubt the MOST under rated player in the draft. I moved him up to 8 but if his jumpshot was just a tad tighter he would be top 5.
fishmike wrote:Ive been saying Hezonja is another TMac caliber player for awhile. Kaminsky should not be behind guys like Poetl, Porzingiz, Lyles??? He should be #7 in your mock.
Have not seen enough of Porzingiz, but there is no way that Lyles and Poetl can be ahead of Kaminsky at this point in time.
my personal choice
towns
mario
russel
okafer
WaltLongmire wrote:fishmike wrote:Ive been saying Hezonja is another TMac caliber player for awhile. Kaminsky should not be behind guys like Poetl, Porzingiz, Lyles??? He should be #7 in your mock.
Have not seen enough of Porzingiz, but there is no way that Lyles and Poetl can be ahead of Kaminsky at this point in time.
Me either, but what I have seen he looks so skinny... like Tayshaun Prince skinny.
BRIGGS wrote:April 7 post tourney
1 Karl Towns 6-11 255 PF/C
2 Mario Hezonja 6-8 210 SG
3 Deangelo Russell 6-5 200 PG
4 Jahill Okafor 6-11 275 PF/C
5 Emmanuel Mudiay PG 6-5 205
6 Justice Winslow SF/SG 6-6 230
7 Jakob Poetl C 7-1 240
8 Deandre Bembry PG/SG 6-7 200
9 Kristaps Porzingis 7-1 220 F
10 Trey Lyles 6-10 250 PF
11 Frank Kaminsky PF/C 7-0 240
12 Christian Wood 7-0 C/PF
13 Tyus Jones 6-1 190 PG
14 Bobby Portis 6-11 245
15 Kris Dunn 6-3 200 pg
16 Jerian Grant Pg 6-5 200
17 Myles Turner 7-0 245
18 Kelly Oubre SG 6-7 200
19 Devin Booker SG 6-6 210
20 Montrezl Harrell pf 6-8 245
21 Willie Stein C 7-0 240
22 Cameron Payne PG 6-2 180
23 Kevin Looney PF 6-9 225
24 Delon Wright PG 6-5 180
25 Brice Johnson PF 6-9 225
26 Jarell Martin 6-9 245 PF
27 Olivier Hanlan 6-4 200 PG
28 Sam Decker F 6-9 230
29 Rashad Vaughn SG 6-6 215
30 D J Newbill SG 6-5 215
Meh. I say you get like 20% right.
WaltLongmire wrote:fishmike wrote:Ive been saying Hezonja is another TMac caliber player for awhile. Kaminsky should not be behind guys like Poetl, Porzingiz, Lyles??? He should be #7 in your mock.
Have not seen enough of Porzingiz, but there is no way that Lyles and Poetl can be ahead of Kaminsky at this point in time.
He could be picked as high as 5. Hes a great player. At final tally I slightly discounted his athletic explosion but hes a savvy pick and could be a great NBA player. I think Poetl will project as a clear 5 and his upside is high. Trey Lyles has been under rated all year. Hes athletic strong and long with a nice jumpshot.
newyorker4ever wrote:BRIGGS wrote:April 7 post tourney
1 Karl Towns 6-11 255 PF/C
2 Mario Hezonja 6-8 210 SG
3 Deangelo Russell 6-5 200 PG
4 Jahill Okafor 6-11 275 PF/C
5 Emmanuel Mudiay PG 6-5 205
6 Justice Winslow SF/SG 6-6 230
7 Jakob Poetl C 7-1 240
8 Deandre Bembry PG/SG 6-7 200
9 Kristaps Porzingis 7-1 220 F
10 Trey Lyles 6-10 250 PF
11 Frank Kaminsky PF/C 7-0 240
12 Christian Wood 7-0 C/PF
13 Tyus Jones 6-1 190 PG
14 Bobby Portis 6-11 245
15 Kris Dunn 6-3 200 pg
16 Jerian Grant Pg 6-5 200
17 Myles Turner 7-0 245
18 Kelly Oubre SG 6-7 200
19 Devin Booker SG 6-6 210
20 Montrezl Harrell pf 6-8 245
21 Willie Stein C 7-0 240
22 Cameron Payne PG 6-2 180
23 Kevin Looney PF 6-9 225
24 Delon Wright PG 6-5 180
25 Brice Johnson PF 6-9 225
26 Jarell Martin 6-9 245 PF
27 D J Newbill SG 6-5 215
28 Sam Decker F 6-9 230
29 Rashad Vaughn SG 6-6 215
30 Joseph Young 6-2 185
Meh. I say you get like 20% right.
Its not really about right and wrong--its just who I project in talent 1-30.
1. Towns
2. Mudiay
3. Winslow
4. Russell
5. OK4
6. Kaminsky
7. Herzonja
8. Lyles
9. Grant
10. Stein
11. Dunn
12. Turner
13. Porzingis
14. Portis
Mine...
1 Karl Towns 6-11 255 PF/C
2 Deangelo Russell 6-5 200 PG
3 Jahlil Okafor 6-11 275 PF/C
4 Mario Hezonja 6-8 210 SG
5 Emmanuel Mudiay PG 6-5 205
6 Justice Winslow SF/SG 6-6 230
7 Jakob Poetl C 7-1 240
8 Kristaps Porzingis 7-1 220 F
9 Frank Kaminsky PF/C 7-0 240
10 Trey Lyles 6-10 250 PF
As for the Knicks' #1-4 pick: Towns, then OK4, then Russell, then Hezonga.
gunsnewing wrote:1. Towns
2. Mudiay
3. Winslow
4. Russell
5. OK4
6. Kaminsky
7. Herzonja
8. Lyles
9. Grant
10. Stein
11. Dunn
12. Turner
13. Porzingis
14. Portis
now is that because your infatuated with players who arent the best on their team?
Wow. Okafor dropping like a brick from a lot of personal views.
Top Five:
1 Karl Towns 6-11 255 PF/C
2 Jahill Okafor 6-11 275 PF/C
3 Deangelo Russell 6-5 200 PG
4 Emmanuel Mudiay PG 6-5 205
5 Justice Winslow SF/SG 6-6 230
Briggs -- no Stanley Johnson in the top 30???
I disagree with Tyus Jones being a better prospect that Jerian Grant...
I also think Dekker has the potential to be a bigger Chandler Parsons so I think he is way too low
By the way, I can't believe Towns won me over...
SupremeCommander wrote:Top Five:1 Karl Towns 6-11 255 PF/C
2 Jahill Okafor 6-11 275 PF/C
3 Deangelo Russell 6-5 200 PG
4 Emmanuel Mudiay PG 6-5 205
5 Justice Winslow SF/SG 6-6 230
Briggs -- no Stanley Johnson in the top 30???
I disagree with Tyus Jones being a better prospect that Jerian Grant...
I also think Dekker has the potential to be a bigger Chandler Parsons so I think he is way too low
ok I just fcked up the whole thing:) thanks for pointing that out.
NYKBocker wrote:Wow. Okafor dropping like a brick from a lot of personal views.
I think that's beyond silly... his moves were fantastic last night, the shot just didn't drop. It's not like there is another big man with Kaminsky's handle. I know he undressed Kaminsky last night but that said, Kaminsky's skillset is rather unique
BRIGGS wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Top Five:1 Karl Towns 6-11 255 PF/C
2 Jahill Okafor 6-11 275 PF/C
3 Deangelo Russell 6-5 200 PG
4 Emmanuel Mudiay PG 6-5 205
5 Justice Winslow SF/SG 6-6 230
Briggs -- no Stanley Johnson in the top 30???
I disagree with Tyus Jones being a better prospect that Jerian Grant...
I also think Dekker has the potential to be a bigger Chandler Parsons so I think he is way too low
ok I just fcked up the whole thing:) thanks for pointing that out.
sorry -- other than that I think your list is solid. All but one of the names are right, IMHO.
SupremeCommander wrote:BRIGGS wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Top Five:1 Karl Towns 6-11 255 PF/C
2 Jahill Okafor 6-11 275 PF/C
3 Deangelo Russell 6-5 200 PG
4 Emmanuel Mudiay PG 6-5 205
5 Justice Winslow SF/SG 6-6 230
Briggs -- no Stanley Johnson in the top 30???
I disagree with Tyus Jones being a better prospect that Jerian Grant...
I also think Dekker has the potential to be a bigger Chandler Parsons so I think he is way too low
ok I just fcked up the whole thing:) thanks for pointing that out.
sorry -- other than that I think your list is solid. All but one of the names are right, IMHO.
LOl thanks for pointing out fixed it.
BRIGGS wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BRIGGS wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Top Five:1 Karl Towns 6-11 255 PF/C
2 Jahill Okafor 6-11 275 PF/C
3 Deangelo Russell 6-5 200 PG
4 Emmanuel Mudiay PG 6-5 205
5 Justice Winslow SF/SG 6-6 230
Briggs -- no Stanley Johnson in the top 30???
I disagree with Tyus Jones being a better prospect that Jerian Grant...
I also think Dekker has the potential to be a bigger Chandler Parsons so I think he is way too low
ok I just fcked up the whole thing:) thanks for pointing that out.
sorry -- other than that I think your list is solid. All but one of the names are right, IMHO.
LOl thanks for pointing out fixed it.
no worries... and actually (ball park) agree with where you have him! wasn't trying to be a jerk, just wanted to have dialogue about this, as this upcoming draft has been incredibly fun to dissect
edit: also, I think Stanley Johnson is one of the more divisive players in the mocks... people either think he is a stud in waiting or they think he's a little overrated. I am in the latter category
